I proposed and now coordinate the "Streamlined Onboarding" goal for the KDE community and I'm also a member of the Promo team.
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- Apr 20 2017, 9:24 AM (61 w, 2 d)
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Excuse my ignorance, but can you please share a link to the svn sources you mention here? Thanks!
May 19 2018
I'm not a developer, so perhaps I'm missing important aspects here, but how about using a common template with the things that would interest people, so they can quickly review what's it about before going into the details?
May 18 2018
I really like the announcement @jriddell shared. What I would suggest as an improvement is making sure that the topics that are mentioned in the introduction are then further expanded in the sections that follow and that the topics that are expanded in those sections are all mentioned in the introduction.
May 15 2018
It's great to see so much valuable feedback rolling in to this thread, especially from people that are new to KDE. Many thanks for that!
May 3 2018
May 2 2018
We can choose any topic from the sub-tasks listed on the overarching Onboarding Goal task. I will be adding some more sub-tasks there in the following days (like improving documentation, gathering feedback etc). Feel free to leave a comment there if you came up with anything that needs to be tackled and is not mentioned already.
Apr 26 2018
Apr 16 2018
Thanks @rkflx for reworking the text, it does flow much better with your changes. We'll see if we can improve the style with the next major release.
Apr 10 2018
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Apr 5 2018
In regard to UNCOFIRMED/CONFIRMED status, there's a relevant discussion here:
And more about bugzilla's usefulness here:
When I am converting bullet points into paragraphs, I try to group them by common subjects. For example several bullet points might all be about full screen mode, others are about usability fixes or about SVG images.
Apr 4 2018
Hi @ngraham, thanks for your input and edits.
I can call this a beta1 now: https://notes.kde.org/p/applications_18.04.0_announcement.
Mar 31 2018
Yes thanks! I'm taking in mind the info from here also: https://community.kde.org/Applications/18.04_Release_Notes
Mar 30 2018
Where possible, it would be great if we could get some screenshots/gifs of the cool new features like we had for the 17.12.0 announcement.
Mar 26 2018
Regarding the venue, the people running it were friendly and willing to help us. What I remember is the heating issue. If we want to use this place again in the future, we should ask for another room or hold the event at a warmer time of the year.
Hello from me as well.
Feb 9 2018
This is surely needed and it was one of the things standing out as negative in our FOSDEM booth.
I've been calling for a website rework as part of the Onboarding Goal as well, so I'm glad to see this discussion. The Getting Involved page would definitely benefit from such a restructure.
Feb 8 2018
Not sure where to find it and how it can be used, but during FOSDEM2018 people from FSFE came over to the KDE booth and asked to take a photo of us holding paper hearts with the 4 freedoms (use, study, share, improve) and a sign, on which @rempt wrote "I love all my users".
It was similar to this: https://fsfe.org/campaigns/ilovefs/whylovefs/gallery.en.html
Feb 1 2018
Hi everyone, I feel bad for being quiet over the last couple of weeks. Lots of changes happening in Jan-Feb for me, and also FOSDEM and the KDE Promo sprint are coming up. I'll try to push this goal forward in a consistent way once all these have passed.
Jan 13 2018
Jan 3 2018
I still plan to be there. Looking forward to meeting everyone. =)
Dec 24 2017
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Dec 14 2017
@kossebau no worries. =) I hope you manage to resolve your issues soon.
Dec 11 2017
Thanks @cfeck for moving this forward. =)
@kossebau regarding the images, a screenshot representative of what the plugin does/how it helps users/devs should be fine imo. Feel free to update the link to the new image directly on the pad. I don't have access to publish the announcement myself, so I put the links for images there for editors to choose from. I've already updated the plugin description as you provided it, thanks for taking the time.
The text for the announcement is available here: https://notes.kde.org/p/applications_17.12.0_announcement
Dec 9 2017
Hi, new KDE-Promo contributor here. I will have a go at this asap and get back to you.
Nov 22 2017
I assume we were all trying to make things easy, not being lazy. =)
Nov 19 2017
Any city reachable within ~3-4h hours by plane from Brussels should be fine with me.
Nov 3 2017
- Linking any possible goals to KDE community's actions.
- What behaviors of community members would be beneficial for KDE and how can we promote and enable them?
- How can we turn a large yet passive audience into active promoters and contributors?
- Consider promoting and reaching out to other organizations/projects/companies and assess any possible partnerships. Can we get:
- hardware businesses to ship KDE's products by default?
- organizations to switch to KDE's software solutions?
- Maastricht, The Netherlands (more probably) or Nicosia, Cyprus (less probably)
- Rather flexible after November, would prefer not in the weeks before and after FOSDEM.
- 2-3 days should be fine
Oct 31 2017
The ambitious goal here is to improve the onboarding process for all types of contributors. If we succeed, everyone interested in contributing to KDE should have a clear and supportive path to follow. Of course coders are at the heart of KDE and what it does and lots of this work will inevitably go into that. The way I see it, "making it easy to build something and patch it" should be the case/aim for all types of contributions. =)
Oct 29 2017
Oct 23 2017
Lots of great suggestions here, I will try to add the ideas from the comments and the video asap. Of course, feel free to edit the initial post directly and include them yourself. =)
On one hand, having people with these skills interested in contributing could potentially increase the chances of this proposal being voted. But I would be careful in explaining that the voting is still pending.
Oct 20 2017
Yup, totally agree with merging as these two obviously overlap. Am just not sure if and how merging can be done through phabricator without all the current comments being lost.
Oct 18 2017
These are indeed educational videos, thanks for sharing. And yes, that is the idea, have all these under the KDE umbrella. We could even reach out to people that already put work into this, and ask if they are willing to help in this effort.
What worries me a bit, is that the software sometimes changes so rapidly that the current version might look different from that which is shown on our videos. For that matter, the real-world courses are always up-to-date, But they too have drawback as they are constrained by time and space (which the online courses don't). Anyway our most important goal is increasing the number of power-users no matter how.
Yes, for videos it is kind of an issue redoing the whole thing once something changes. Annotations could be inserted though to inform people of minor changes. And perhaps the videos could be reviewed periodically to check they are still relevant.
Here are some further thoughts I've made on this:
@navarromorales Mentoring is indeed a very important aspect of improving the contribution process and it can help solving issues like the ones you describe.
Oct 3 2017
What about the possibility of offering these courses online the way Coursera/Edx do it? This way everything can be accessible always by people across the world.
I wonder if KDE people working on projects related to R&A are aware of this proposal. It would be great to hear their opinion. Can we get them involved?
Oct 2 2017
I was working in parallel in this proposal I just submitted, my suggestion is about a more overarching effort relating to the onboarding of new contributors:
This related proposal was also made, but it is more specific to bugzilla and coders:
I guess the two could merge in the process of discussion.
Aug 21 2017
+1 on emphasizing collaboration and togetherness. How about adding "digital" to it to align with the vision?
Jul 28 2017
This appeared on Dot a couple of days ago: https://dot.kde.org/2017/07/25/plasmas-vision
May 9 2017
I came across two articles on Authentic Marketing and User Generated Content that are probably good to take into consideration:
Apr 30 2017
Yup, there are definitely overlaps and connections. This path makes total sense, but I have my doubts about it being set this clearly and things being as straightforward.
The problem I see in click baiting is when the content doesn't correspond to the title or fails to deliver and we should definitely avoid that. But most of the things mentioned in the pdf indeed work, so it's good to have them in mind when posting.
Apr 29 2017
A clearly defined strategy for the marketing and kde-promo actions is essential in order for our efforts to be beneficial for KDE and its products so am looking forward to seeing this developing.