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abetts triaged T9444: Add Semitransparent Circle Behind Lock Screen and SDDM Controls for Better Visibility as Wishlist priority.
Sat, Aug 18, 9:46 PM · Plasma, VDG
abetts added a comment to D14850: [effects] Turn off Translucency by default.

Someone was giving a presentation during the KDE e.V. meeting and resized a Dolphin window to make it bigger. The act of doing this made the window translucent and revealed the content of the window beneath it. This was a significant privacy violation, and could have had damaging consequences.

I must say that I consider the privacy argument hardly convincing. If we follow that thinking we have to disable:

  • minimize window
  • close window
  • present windows
  • desktop grid
  • resizing of window to smaller than window underneath
  • moving of window to uncover other windows and especially we need to forbid applications to crash.

    Sorry we cannot make everything secure. User's need to use their brain. E.g. ensure that you extend the screen and put your trade secrets on the internal screen.

    So I don't buy the privacy argument and I wouldn't use this in the justification of the change - especially not when going to public with that. Users are not stupid and won't buy it.

    Personally I would recommend against this change from a change management perspective. The next KWin release has many, many user visible changes. Much more than the releases over the last years. From a change management perspective this is dangerous as we might ask for too much from our users. If we do too many changes users have difficulties to follow that and might disapprove the whole release as too many things changed. As an especially negative contributing factor for change management this release is the change in maintainer. This could backfire badly if we do too many changes ("that would not have happened with Martin as maintainer...").

    On another note I want to express my dislike to the changes which flip defaults. I think these are the "easy" changes which don't understand the larger picture. I especially mentioned this in the discussion about the no border change that I dislike these changes which just flip defaults. In that regard I'm disappointed to see (again) a change which just flips defaults. If we follow the logic of the mentioned privacy reason the proper reaction would have been to come up with a presentation mode in the window manager which ensures privacy by addressing all the obvious points.

    Also the change would break several unit tests and do to that I request changes to the revision.
Sat, Aug 18, 1:22 PM · KWin

Thu, Aug 16

abetts accepted D14857: Label job notifications with destination file name.

+1

Thu, Aug 16, 10:24 PM · Plasma
abetts added a comment to T6859: Falkon - VDG feedback.

The breeze one is really boring. I would use the one in the Screenshot

I don't disagree, but this would be an argument for moving the better one upstream into Breeze, not doing our own thing in Falkon. If Falkon has a better spinner than Breeze does, then everyone should benefit from it, not just Falkon users! :)

Thu, Aug 16, 10:21 PM · Falkon
abetts added a project to T9394: HIG pages about the principal Kirigami design concepts: VDG.
Thu, Aug 16, 5:41 AM · VDG, Kirigami
abetts added a project to T9395: Landing Kirigami website: VDG.
Thu, Aug 16, 5:40 AM · VDG, Kirigami
abetts added a comment to D14869: [RFC] Increase default font sizes by 1 pt.

I like the way this looks, I would like to push it further for clarity and ask for window title at 13 and bold. I feel people stand to benefit from seeing a window title that is readable, especially when we have a dark color background default.

Here's how that would look with a comparison.

11pt title:

13pt title:

To me that looks way too heavy and attention-getting. Here's 13pt non-bold:

Or even 11pt bold:

I actually really like 11 pt bold for the title.

I think the issue is more your hinting then the font size.

11pt does look even better when the hinting is appropriate (slight RGB hinting for most people), which is fixed by D12925: Parse global config files. Remove 'Vendor default' option. Fix changes not recognized.. But that's not really related to this. The idea of making the size bigger is to increase readability, which is just something that naturally comes from having the text be bigger; this is not controversial. The question is not whether larger text is more readable (it is), it's whether or not it's worth it because of the trade-offs involved.

Thu, Aug 16, 5:40 AM · Plasma

Wed, Aug 15

abetts added a comment to D14869: [RFC] Increase default font sizes by 1 pt.

I like the way this looks, I would like to push it further for clarity and ask for window title at 13 and bold. I feel people stand to benefit from seeing a window title that is readable, especially when we have a dark color background default.

Wed, Aug 15, 9:57 PM · Plasma
abetts added a comment to D14855: Add applet with screen layouts and presentation mode.

On the first string I would change the wording:

Wed, Aug 15, 9:48 AM · Plasma
abetts added a comment to D14830: Add "Display Configuration" context menu entry on the desktop.
This could be good whenever we have situations where the desktop locks

If the desktop locks then the one thing you can't do is right click on the desktop

Wed, Aug 15, 5:52 AM · Plasma

Tue, Aug 14

abetts added a comment to D14849: [Labels] Make the Ellipses section more clear.

Remove reference to "in a separate window", since that's not true

Tue, Aug 14, 10:47 PM · KDE Human Interface Guidelines
abetts added a comment to D14848: [effects/logout] Animate ksmserver-logout-greeter.

What does this look like now?

Tue, Aug 14, 10:39 PM · KWin
abetts added a comment to D14830: Add "Display Configuration" context menu entry on the desktop.

about how having this option is stupid and doesn't fit in here and bla bla that always emerges when this entry is proposed or talked about.

Being off by default does not replace code always needing a justification behind it. I've still to hear a valid one.

Note also that feedback comes from before the osd and the upcoming applet that you've written.

Tue, Aug 14, 10:33 PM · Plasma
abetts added a comment to D14749: WIP: [effects] Rewrite the Magic Lamp effect.

Thank you

Tue, Aug 14, 10:20 PM · KWin
abetts accepted D14850: [effects] Turn off Translucency by default.

+1 a sensible change

Tue, Aug 14, 10:07 PM · KWin
abetts added a comment to D14749: WIP: [effects] Rewrite the Magic Lamp effect.

That looks amazing! Fantastic work! One question, can the window start moving into the menu while the effect is triggered? Can this give the impression that there is effect 1 then effect 2 actions? I would love to see that this feels like 1 effect action and not two.

Tue, Aug 14, 12:48 PM · KWin
abetts added a comment to T8753: Launcher Menus Convergence.

We can talk about this, we are inviting more ideas to this bigger idea

Tue, Aug 14, 12:33 PM · Plasma, VDG

Mon, Aug 13

abetts added a project to T9356: AppImage Awarness in plasma Desktop: VDG.
Mon, Aug 13, 10:29 PM · VDG, Plasma, Dolphin
abetts added a comment to T9356: AppImage Awarness in plasma Desktop.

We can help with the icon!

Mon, Aug 13, 10:29 PM · VDG, Plasma, Dolphin
abetts accepted D14810: Improve Widgets' removal and configure text.

This patch is sensible, it saves some strings, space, and it is grammatically consistent.

Mon, Aug 13, 10:18 PM · Frameworks
abetts added a comment to D14810: Improve Widgets' removal and configure text.

+1

Mon, Aug 13, 10:15 PM · Frameworks
abetts added a comment to D14770: Generate file thumbnails before folder thumbnails.

Just gave this a try on my pictures folder, with "Folders first" turned on (it's the default setting). Observations:

  • In a folder with a small number of sub-folders and a large number of images, it's nicer, since the fime thumbnails show up faster
  • In a folder with a medium number of sub-folders, it's tiny bit odd but mostly fine.
  • In a folder with a large number of sub-folders (more than will fit on the screen at once), it's very odd since it looks like nothing it happening for a few moments.

What would happen if the user selects a view mode that is contrary to the arrangement of Folders > Thumbnails and instead arranged the sorting to be Thumbnails (Images) > Folders ? Would this mean that folders load first still?

This makes folders load last, not first. There is no "thumbnails before folders" mode, but there is a mode to intersperse folders within files (the way macOS finder does by default). In this mode, the change is much less noticeable.

Mon, Aug 13, 8:08 AM · Dolphin
abetts added a comment to D14770: Generate file thumbnails before folder thumbnails.

Just gave this a try on my pictures folder, with "Folders first" turned on (it's the default setting). Observations:

  • In a folder with a small number of sub-folders and a large number of images, it's nicer, since the fime thumbnails show up faster
  • In a folder with a medium number of sub-folders, it's tiny bit odd but mostly fine.
  • In a folder with a large number of sub-folders (more than will fit on the screen at once), it's very odd since it looks like nothing it happening for a few moments.
Mon, Aug 13, 8:05 AM · Dolphin
abetts added a comment to D14770: Generate file thumbnails before folder thumbnails.

What would be an example of this? Any graphics to see?

Mon, Aug 13, 8:00 AM · Dolphin

Sun, Aug 12

abetts added a comment to D14367: [effects/glide] Don't animate the Application Dashboard.

I don't really like this, but we can come up with something better later.

Sun, Aug 12, 4:24 AM · KWin

Sat, Aug 11

abetts added a comment to D14737: Move "update" button from the left side to the right side in NIC module.

+1

Sat, Aug 11, 3:57 PM · Plasma

Fri, Aug 10

abetts added a comment to T7927: Fonts “easy mode”.
In T7927#154109, @rkflx wrote:

How about a simple plus/minus button, which affects all different font types at once? (IOW, providing an inline "easy" alternative to the Adjust All button for a single topic.)

I could get behind that. The Adjust All Fonts... button has always rubbed me wrong because it will always produce incorrect output for the Fixed Width and Small fonts that then needs to be manually fixed. If we implement your suggestion, I'd be okay with the original proposed separation with the font settings on one tab and the anti-aliasing settings on another tab.

Fri, Aug 10, 4:56 PM · VDG, Plasma: KCM Redesign

Wed, Aug 8

abetts added a project to T7927: Fonts “easy mode”: VDG.
Wed, Aug 8, 11:37 PM · VDG, Plasma: KCM Redesign
abetts added a comment to T7927: Fonts “easy mode”.
In T7927#154111, @rkflx wrote:

One more quick idea (have not really thought about it, no final wording etc.):

Wed, Aug 8, 11:37 PM · VDG, Plasma: KCM Redesign
abetts added a comment to T7927: Fonts “easy mode”.

I will try to come up with a UI concept that we can use for the proposed design. As I share this, please let me know if I am going the right direction.

Wed, Aug 8, 8:25 PM · VDG, Plasma: KCM Redesign
abetts added a comment to D14581: support for multilevel kcms.

Looking great!

Wed, Aug 8, 2:03 PM · Plasma

Tue, Aug 7

abetts added a comment to D14560: [effects/sheet] Grab modal windows.
In D14560#304961, @zzag wrote:

Oh nice! Question, maybe it it just the video, but does this patch address the appear/disappear issue that happens after you click cancel in the video? When you click cancel the animation begins by fading and sliding the modal window backward, but then there is a appear/disappear flash that makes it look like the fade/slide animation had a problem. It shows in SEC 5 of the video.

This patch fixes exactly that problem.

Tue, Aug 7, 4:20 PM · KWin
abetts added a comment to D14560: [effects/sheet] Grab modal windows.

Oh nice! Question, maybe it it just the video, but does this patch address the appear/disappear issue that happens after you click cancel in the video? When you click cancel the animation begins by fading and sliding the modal window backward, but then there is a appear/disappear flash that makes it look like the fade/slide animation had a problem. It shows in SEC 5 of the video.

Tue, Aug 7, 2:41 PM · KWin
abetts added a comment to D14579: api for multi level kcms.

Awesome!

Tue, Aug 7, 2:15 PM · Frameworks
abetts added a comment to D14560: [effects/sheet] Grab modal windows.

What would this look like in practice? Video? :D

Tue, Aug 7, 2:14 PM · KWin

Mon, Aug 6

abetts accepted D14640: Use appropriate icon for a cancel button that will ask for a new name.
Mon, Aug 6, 2:37 PM · Frameworks
abetts added a comment to D14640: Use appropriate icon for a cancel button that will ask for a new name.

Hmm, I'm not sure a cancel button makes sense here because that would end the process of creating the folder. If you chose an invalid name, presumably you still want to create the folder.

I am mostly trying to think of unintended actions upon unintended actions. Thinking maybe that a less knowledgeable user just took the wrong path in trying to complete an action.

Now that I think about it, you're right. I'll submit a patch for that once my current crop of patches are accepted and landed. Wanna accept this one?

Mon, Aug 6, 2:37 PM · Frameworks
abetts added a comment to D14640: Use appropriate icon for a cancel button that will ask for a new name.

Hmm, I'm not sure a cancel button makes sense here because that would end the process of creating the folder. If you chose an invalid name, presumably you still want to create the folder.

Mon, Aug 6, 2:14 PM · Frameworks
abetts added a comment to D14640: Use appropriate icon for a cancel button that will ask for a new name.

Could the message have 2 buttons? A cancel and an "Enter a different name". That way, if the user inadvertently entered that reserved name can cancel the action still.

Mon, Aug 6, 2:08 PM · Frameworks

Thu, Aug 2

abetts added a comment to T7927: Fonts “easy mode”.

Can you maybe detail a lost of labels that need to be in this kcm? I can the mock them up in the kcm style I proposed and put it all together

Thu, Aug 2, 9:22 PM · VDG, Plasma: KCM Redesign

Tue, Jul 31

abetts added a comment to T7927: Fonts “easy mode”.

Can we also ask Julian to take a look at the mockups for this KCM?

Tue, Jul 31, 10:06 PM · VDG, Plasma: KCM Redesign
abetts added a comment to T3064: Design Plasma Layout Editing Mode.

Here I am speaking mostly of the work that is being done in consolidating virtual desktops and activities, which will likely change the way that we run an "edit mode". So, for me, we should wait to tackle edit mode until we have other pieces of the desktop in place first. Otherwise, our designs might end up changing.

Tue, Jul 31, 2:26 PM · Plasma, VDG

Mon, Jul 30

abetts added a comment to D14089: [WIP] Moved form alignment to a dedicated content pattern. added andy betts content about genreal alignment.

Love it!

Mon, Jul 30, 2:09 PM · KDE Human Interface Guidelines
abetts added a comment to D14367: [effects/glide] Don't animate the Application Dashboard.

+1 I support this idea!

Mon, Jul 30, 2:09 PM · KWin

Sun, Jul 29

abetts added a comment to T3064: Design Plasma Layout Editing Mode.

Those "recent changes" that you guys are planning, are those anywhere I can see? I'm super curious about this type of stuff.

Sun, Jul 29, 7:44 PM · Plasma, VDG
abetts added a comment to T3064: Design Plasma Layout Editing Mode.

It hasn't really come back to our discussions given the recent changes that we are planning. This might not fit that form.

Sun, Jul 29, 6:46 PM · Plasma, VDG

Sat, Jul 28

abetts added a comment to T9042: Kickoff improvements.

Ping?

Sat, Jul 28, 3:41 PM · Plasma, VDG

Thu, Jul 26

abetts added a comment to D14339: Change rotation icons to be a rotated preview icon.

+1

Thu, Jul 26, 2:06 PM · Plasma
abetts added a comment to D14347: Fix blocky text on splash screen when using non-integer scale factor.

+1

Thu, Jul 26, 2:05 PM · Plasma

Wed, Jul 25

abetts accepted D13773: [KDirOperator] Use alternating background colors for multi-column views.

Looks good!

Wed, Jul 25, 3:43 AM · Frameworks

Tue, Jul 24

abetts added a comment to D14339: Change rotation icons to be a rotated preview icon.

Hmm, instead of removing them, I'd prefer if we used better icons. Maybe like that little icon of a mountain and a sun within a frame that we already have--but rotated.

With no icon at all, I think we'd regress usability because a visual hint of which way the display will be rotated is way easier to understand quickly than "90° Counterclockwise". I need to power up my brain's long-dormant geometry module to figure out what that will do.

Tue, Jul 24, 7:09 PM · Plasma
abetts added a comment to D14326: Fix layout of resolution selection.


Before and after with the slider and combo box version.

In the up arrow for the combobox that says "Normal". What is the arrow supposed to mean?

There are "arrows" used for all rotations.
(Note that that's completely unrelated to the change)

Tue, Jul 24, 2:23 PM · Plasma
abetts added a comment to T7254: Displays (WIP?).

My understanding was that this task was about the displays kcm. I'm curious if there are more ideas around the kcm. Looking at https://phabricator.kde.org/M112/434/ there are some ideas for the screen kcm, but it seems very incomplete.

Tue, Jul 24, 2:15 PM · VDG, Plasma
abetts added a comment to D14326: Fix layout of resolution selection.


Before and after with the slider and combo box version.

Tue, Jul 24, 2:12 PM · Plasma
abetts added a comment to D14325: Remove Advanced section from screen config.

+1

Tue, Jul 24, 2:11 PM · Plasma
abetts added a comment to D14326: Fix layout of resolution selection.

+1 on the visual changes!

Tue, Jul 24, 2:10 PM · Plasma
abetts added inline comments to D14089: [WIP] Moved form alignment to a dedicated content pattern. added andy betts content about genreal alignment.
Tue, Jul 24, 2:07 PM · KDE Human Interface Guidelines

Mon, Jul 23

abetts added a comment to D14105: Use a broom-style icon for clearing clipboard and notification history.

It's the edit-clear-history icon in the breeze-icons repo.

Mon, Jul 23, 8:49 PM · Plasma
abetts added a comment to D14105: Use a broom-style icon for clearing clipboard and notification history.

Can you share the svg file for this icon please? I would like to edit it a little bit

Mon, Jul 23, 6:52 PM · Plasma
abetts added a comment to T7254: Displays (WIP?).

Hi, are there any details about this? I might put some work into this. I think the arranging of several screens by drag and drop is quite clumsy at the moment. The OSD should also be considered, it solves a lot of the common cases. Maybe the kcm and OSD should be closer coupled to help people.

Mon, Jul 23, 5:49 PM · VDG, Plasma
abetts added a comment to T4461: [kwin] Virtual Desktops KCM needs porting.

Would it be beneficial to not just port but redesign? https://phabricator.kde.org/M112/396/

Mon, Jul 23, 5:48 PM · Plasma on Wayland

Fri, Jul 20

abetts added a comment to D14238: Polish Notifier Plasmoid's UI.

+1

Fri, Jul 20, 4:18 AM · Plasma

Jul 19 2018

abetts added a comment to T9218: UI design for fingerprint reader support in lock/login screens.

Do we need any kind of UI mockup for this?

Jul 19 2018, 6:14 PM · Plasma

Jul 16 2018

abetts added a comment to D13720: [effects] Rewrite the Dim Inactive effect.

Big +1. Thanks for the great work!

Jul 16 2018, 6:49 PM · KWin
abetts added a comment to D14145: Show a vertical menu for the panel widget options pop-up.

+1

Jul 16 2018, 4:08 PM · Plasma
abetts added a comment to D13773: [KDirOperator] Use alternating background colors for multi-column views.

+1

Jul 16 2018, 3:54 PM · Frameworks

Jul 12 2018

abetts added a comment to T7368: Create "I'm going to Akademy 2018" banner/badge.

Sounds good, sorry I can’t get to my computer at this time. I am sure we won’t confuse anyone. I can make changes later too.

Jul 12 2018, 10:35 PM · VDG, KDE Promo, Akademy (Akademy 2018)

Jul 11 2018

abetts added a comment to D10083: [Look and Feel] Reverse the button order.

Not sure it is redundant but it should follow what the mockups in pholio are saying.

Jul 11 2018, 3:01 PM · Plasma

Jul 10 2018

abetts added a comment to T7368: Create "I'm going to Akademy 2018" banner/badge.

Oh, the other one is missing

Jul 10 2018, 7:54 PM · VDG, KDE Promo, Akademy (Akademy 2018)
abetts added a comment to T7368: Create "I'm going to Akademy 2018" banner/badge.

I made these after being asked in the VDG channel{F6072178}

Jul 10 2018, 7:42 PM · VDG, KDE Promo, Akademy (Akademy 2018)

Jul 8 2018

abetts added a comment to T8703: IDEA: Make warning messages wider. Place top/bottom.

If we want to make top-positioning an official recommendation, I wouldn't necessarily object, but it would need to be in the HIG. And visually, we would need to differentiate the inline style of messages (rounded corners, colored borders on all four sides) from the more global or app-specific ones (no corners, since they'd span the full width of the window, colored border only on the bottom, or not at all).

Jul 8 2018, 12:08 AM · Plasma, VDG

Jul 7 2018

abetts added a comment to D13768: Modernize View Properties window.

Like this?

Jul 7 2018, 1:01 AM · Dolphin

Jul 6 2018

abetts added a comment to D13768: Modernize View Properties window.

That would be good too. Yes!

Jul 6 2018, 7:25 PM · Dolphin
abetts added a comment to D13768: Modernize View Properties window.

"Current folder including all sub-folders"

to

Current folder and sub-folders

Sounds good.

"Use these view properties as default"

to

Set properties as default

This I don't like so much because the action verb "Set" is something I would expect to see on a button, not a checkbox (which usually has slightly more neutral language).

How about instead, something more like "Use as default view settings" or "Use as default view properties"?

Jul 6 2018, 2:22 PM · Dolphin
abetts added a comment to D13768: Modernize View Properties window.

Just two nitpicks in language:

Jul 6 2018, 4:17 AM · Dolphin

Jul 4 2018

abetts added a comment to T9126: Breeze scrollbar look-and-feel unification.

I am interested in keeping the visual consistency across all applications. I think it is a good thing to provide a setting that allows users to tweak this. Once we have a configurator, would settings in it apply to all applications or would these settings apply per application?

Jul 4 2018, 5:33 PM · VDG
abetts added a project to T9126: Breeze scrollbar look-and-feel unification: VDG.
Jul 4 2018, 5:31 PM · VDG

Jul 3 2018

abetts added a comment to T8703: IDEA: Make warning messages wider. Place top/bottom.

Ping?

Jul 3 2018, 4:38 PM · Plasma, VDG
abetts added a comment to D13745: Implement support for virtual desktops on Wayland.

The dev team has been in talks with the VDG about this change. We are OK with the change. We understand that before we make any visual changes, we need to, at least, provide the same functionality that we have in X11 to what we want to have in Wayland. The VDG is currently working on devising the ways that this can work graphically.

Jul 3 2018, 2:44 PM · Plasma

Jul 2 2018

abetts added a comment to T9113: Decide how to implement pinning (and related) in taskmanager / plasma.
In T9113#149478, @Fuchs wrote:

Does this have an expected look yet? What would it look like on the desktop?

I think the look (on the desktop, mobile is not my area) is mostly given and will be what it currently is. This would be consistent with what other systems do and it makes sense.
What can be discussed, once the technical implementation is clear and thus what features will stay and which ones won't, is how the interaction with it is done.
That will mostly be wording and not looks though I guess, but I might be wrong on that.

Jul 2 2018, 2:28 PM
abetts added a comment to T9113: Decide how to implement pinning (and related) in taskmanager / plasma.

Does this have an expected look yet? What would it look like on the desktop?

Jul 2 2018, 2:13 PM

Jul 1 2018

abetts added a comment to D13643: Add LabPlot project file icon.

Oh great! I thought the team was looking for a logo. Then, I have nothing more to add. It looks great.

Jul 1 2018, 8:34 PM · Frameworks, Breeze
abetts added a comment to D13643: Add LabPlot project file icon.

My first impression is that it looks a lot like a file emblem. I would probably remove the background and keep only the logo.

Jul 1 2018, 8:11 PM · Frameworks, Breeze

Jun 30 2018

abetts added a comment to D11198: [libbreezecommon] Add box shadow helper.

I thought this was accepted and ready to go.

Jun 30 2018, 3:45 PM · Plasma

Jun 29 2018

abetts added a comment to D13768: Modernize View Properties window.

+1

Jun 29 2018, 2:07 PM · Dolphin

Jun 28 2018

abetts added a comment to T9091: Merge PulseAudio and Phonon KCM.

Please let me know if this is what is meant by the ticket.

Jun 28 2018, 4:59 AM · Plasma
abetts added a comment to T9091: Merge PulseAudio and Phonon KCM.
  1. Create a new combined UI in plasma-pa for configuring switch-on-connect and module-device-manager This means porting the Device Preference tab from phonon to QtQuick and giving it a visual overhaul. @abetts here we could use some mockups :) The result should reflect that those two possibilities are de-facto mutually exclusive
Jun 28 2018, 4:10 AM · Plasma

Jun 27 2018

abetts added a comment to T9091: Merge PulseAudio and Phonon KCM.

Do you guys need a UI mockup for this?

Jun 27 2018, 9:55 PM · Plasma
abetts added a comment to T9091: Merge PulseAudio and Phonon KCM.

I think that makes sense. +1

Jun 27 2018, 9:42 PM · Plasma

Jun 25 2018

abetts added a comment to T8871: Systematic KCM reorganisation.

For the appearance:
maybe it could be made more obvious that Global Theme is a superordinate to the others?

At least as far as I understood it, with a global theme you change (potentially) all the other points at once:

  • Colors
  • Fonts (merge into a tabbed view)
  • Icons (merge into a tabbed view)
  • Application Style (merge all into a single KCM if possible)
  • Desktop Effects ?

I agree, and had considered this myself. I didn't manage to come up with anything yet though.

P.S. nice use of the word "superordinate"! :)

Jun 25 2018, 9:46 PM · Plasma: KCM Redesign, VDG
abetts added a comment to D13481: Recommend window border size "None".
In D13481#282653, @mart wrote:

What I thought of as a solution back when it happened was to check if it's a single click on the dead zone without mouse movement, then activate the window below. Since if you want to use the virtual border, you would move the mouse after press to drag. Not sure if it's worth it since as said, never disturbed my work flow afterwards again.

how difficult is to implement? would just bring the window forward, or actually pass the click? (ie, if there is a button under that dead zone, it should be clicked)

Completely different code paths on X11 and on Wayland. We don't have any click handlers, only pressed and released. So it's not a was this a click thing, we need to learn what a click is.

Given that it requires different implementation for X11 and Wayland and this clearly would be a new feature the X11 Feature freeze rule would kick in and then we have different solutions for X11 and Wayland. So overall I would rather say: too difficult and too breakage risky.

I think we should go back to the drawing board and think about what really is wanted and needed. I want to remind that the original idea was to still have round corners. As I said a few times: this is not the change vdg wants. So let's not try to make something work which the vdg doesn't want. Let's provide them the solution for their actual needs instead.

Jun 25 2018, 4:05 PM · Plasma
abetts added a comment to D13720: [effects] Rewrite the Dim Inactive effect.

+1

Jun 25 2018, 3:06 PM · KWin
abetts added a comment to T9079: Turn List View Into Grid View When Stretching Window.

Strong +1 from me. It's always seemed a bit odd how long the entries can get when the window is wide; might as well use that currently wasted space to display more content.

IIRC, the objection to this last time it was proposed was that we needed a way to make the transition from single-column view to multi-column view to not be disorienting to the user. Could we animate it, perhaps? Seems like a textbook case of where an animation could help the user understand what's going on.

Jun 25 2018, 2:31 PM · Discover Software Store
abetts triaged T9079: Turn List View Into Grid View When Stretching Window as Wishlist priority.
Jun 25 2018, 2:09 PM · Discover Software Store

Jun 23 2018

abetts added a comment to T8751: Simplify Panel Resizing and Customization.

I don't favor making this a full-screen overlay. In addition to the annoyance factor and (legitimate) complaints about wasteful use of space that this would provoke, it would destroy the ability to see what your changes will look like in actual use, since it obscures whatever you were doing at the time when you decided to change the settings.

What in particular, would you change about the UI I am proposing?

Honestly I don't feel that the current UI needs that many changes. Maybe we could learn a bit from Latte Dock's customization interface, if necessary:

(From https://psifidotos.blogspot.com/2018/06/latte-dock-beta-1-for-v08-v0795.html)

Jun 23 2018, 10:13 PM · Plasma, VDG
abetts added a comment to T8751: Simplify Panel Resizing and Customization.

Maybe I sound now a little bit heretical but why not replace the plasma panels with latte-dock at all?
The project has become quite popular over the last months and not only for Plasma or KDE enthusiasts.

Quite much work has been done and it is even able to mimic the look and feel from the default plasma panels while offering quite more features and being a way more flexible.

Jun 23 2018, 10:09 PM · Plasma, VDG
abetts renamed T8751: Simplify Panel Resizing and Customization from Simplify Taskbar Resizing and Customization to Simplify Panel Resizing and Customization.
Jun 23 2018, 3:47 AM · Plasma, VDG
abetts added a comment to T8751: Simplify Panel Resizing and Customization.

In order for us to all use the same terms please refer to this as a panel not a taskbar.

Jun 23 2018, 12:32 AM · Plasma, VDG

Jun 22 2018

abetts added a comment to T8751: Simplify Panel Resizing and Customization.

I don't favor making this a full-screen overlay. In addition to the annoyance factor and (legitimate) complaints about wasteful use of space that this would provoke, it would destroy the ability to see what your changes will look like in actual use, since it obscures whatever you were doing at the time when you decided to change the settings.

Jun 22 2018, 10:09 PM · Plasma, VDG
abetts updated subscribers of T8751: Simplify Panel Resizing and Customization.
Jun 22 2018, 10:04 PM · Plasma, VDG