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Sat, Sep 26

marcingu added a comment to D28745: Skip caching thumbnails on encrypted filesystems.

How do we check if file access is encrypted using Solid? Do we need new property/method in StorageAccess?

Sat, Sep 26, 1:32 PM · Frameworks, Dolphin

Mon, Sep 21

emvaized added a comment to T9579: Publish Dolphin in the Microsoft Store.

Just tried latest build on Windows.
Looks very-very cool and promising!

Mon, Sep 21, 1:27 AM · Dolphin, Windows

Thu, Sep 17

asturmlechner added a comment to T13631: Consolidate using addons/extras/plugins repos.
In T13631#240328, @alex wrote:

dolphin plugins that solely target developers

That also has mountiso and dropbox plugins, these are not just for developers

Thu, Sep 17, 9:14 AM · Frameworks, Dolphin, Plasma
alex added a comment to T13631: Consolidate using addons/extras/plugins repos.

dolphin plugins that solely target developers

Thu, Sep 17, 9:13 AM · Frameworks, Dolphin, Plasma
asturmlechner added a comment to T13631: Consolidate using addons/extras/plugins repos.

I don't try to nanny our users into accepting all those extra dependencies.

You're a Gentoo packager, right? My concern here is for users who want things to just work out of the box, not users of distros geared towards technical experts. That's a different problem space. :)

By far not everyone of our users is an expert, and I don't see the numbers to back this up as a huge problem yet. There sure has been the odd forum thread about missing stuff, but through our KDE Wiki it is common knowledge that users are supposed to use the plasma-meta package and that settles it real quick. Is it really beginners who randomly install the minimal plasma-desktop package (if they do, why?) rather than following the distro's Wiki, or is it the tinkerer who doesn't own up to hunting for features manually after going the minimal route? How many distros get it actually wrong, can it be improved by adding RUNTIME infos to cmake? Where are those bug reports you see coming from? Those are the questions before establishing this as a problem we need to fix by lumping repositories together. And that would change it for something like Arch where binary packages are not often being split, but not for others like Debian where the amount of binary packages may not even change except where they pull their sources from.

Thu, Sep 17, 9:01 AM · Frameworks, Dolphin, Plasma

Wed, Sep 16

alex added a comment to T13631: Consolidate using addons/extras/plugins repos.

I agree with moving the runners, but it is also planned to introduce some new APIs so that the Kate/Konsole profiles runners can be replaced and are provided within the Kate/Konsole apps themselves. For the remaining runners it makes totally sense.

Wed, Sep 16, 9:07 PM · Frameworks, Dolphin, Plasma
ngraham added a comment to T13631: Consolidate using addons/extras/plugins repos.

I don't try to nanny our users into accepting all those extra dependencies.

Wed, Sep 16, 7:36 PM · Frameworks, Dolphin, Plasma
bruns added a comment to T13631: Consolidate using addons/extras/plugins repos.

From me also a -1, mostly because of the dependency tree. Stuff like ffmpeg and Samba have a *huge* dependency tree.

Wed, Sep 16, 7:30 PM · Frameworks, Dolphin, Plasma
asturmlechner added a comment to T13631: Consolidate using addons/extras/plugins repos.

I have seen many bug reports and user frustrations whose root cause was not having these packages installed--whether due to bad distro defaults or not knowing about them when using Arch or Debian. We can bug distros to have better defaults and write better documentation and such, but merging their functionality into other repos eliminates the whole class of bug altogether. That's a win IMO.

Wed, Sep 16, 6:17 PM · Frameworks, Dolphin, Plasma
ngraham added a comment to T13631: Consolidate using addons/extras/plugins repos.

stuff in *-extras is not core functionality but provides additional features that one may or may not want to use

Wed, Sep 16, 5:34 PM · Frameworks, Dolphin, Plasma
nicolasfella added a comment to T13631: Consolidate using addons/extras/plugins repos.

Distros can fail to pre-install them in their Plasma packaging, leading to users missing content and having a sub-optimal user experience

Sure, distros make mistakes too, but that kind of mistake is easy to address downstream

Users of DIY distros like Arch or Debian can fail to install them and wind up missing content and having a sub-optimal user experience

That's the price you needs to pay for using such a distro. You need to think about what to install. Following the logic of why some people prefer this kind of distro one can argue that some people do not install these extra packages on purpose.

Reduces the clarity of the software's status: Is this stuff core functionality or not? On the one hand, it's hosted on KDE infrastructure and tracked on KDE's Bugzilla. But on the other hand, it's possible to not install it

How is merging it clarifying anything? Right now the status is pretty clear IMO: stuff in *-extras is not core functionality but provides additional features that one may or may not want to use

On the flip side, I see no major advantages to having stuff split into these extra repos.

For a framework like KIO I made my point above. A similar point can be made for Plasma too. Plasma is used as a base for various embedded products (Plasma Mobile, Mycroft, Plasma Bigscreen, kiosk deployments. I've also seen kwin used as a standalone window manager in commercial products). For these kinds of projects it is beneficial to be able to deploy a core-only version of our product since stuff like installation size does matter.

Wed, Sep 16, 5:21 PM · Frameworks, Dolphin, Plasma
nicolasfella added a comment to T13631: Consolidate using addons/extras/plugins repos.

I remember hearing about a proposal to move ApplicationLauncherJob into KService to bypass just that issue.

That's T13590.

Alternatively, do you see a better place to merge kio-etras?

No, but I don't see a pressing need to merge it anywhere either

Wed, Sep 16, 5:05 PM · Frameworks, Dolphin, Plasma
ngraham added a comment to T13631: Consolidate using addons/extras/plugins repos.

-1 on merging kio-extras into kio. For frameworks we need to keep an eye on the dependency tree and kio-extras has quite a number of additional dependencies (phonon, samba, libssh, mtp, kdsoap etc) and the features that kio-extras provides are usually. I don't want my app to depend on all of that just to be able to use ApplicationLauncherJob et al

Wed, Sep 16, 4:23 PM · Frameworks, Dolphin, Plasma
nicolasfella added a comment to T13631: Consolidate using addons/extras/plugins repos.

increases work for KDE's release team and distro packagers to have more packages to tar, package, update, manage, etc

Wed, Sep 16, 2:42 PM · Frameworks, Dolphin, Plasma
nicolasfella added a comment to T13631: Consolidate using addons/extras/plugins repos.

-1 on merging kio-extras into kio. For frameworks we need to keep an eye on the dependency tree and kio-extras has quite a number of additional dependencies (phonon, samba, libssh, mtp, kdsoap etc) and the features that kio-extras provides are usually. I don't want my app to depend on all of that just to be able to use ApplicationLauncherJob et al

Wed, Sep 16, 2:38 PM · Frameworks, Dolphin, Plasma
ngraham created T13631: Consolidate using addons/extras/plugins repos.
Wed, Sep 16, 2:10 PM · Frameworks, Dolphin, Plasma

Tue, Sep 15

paulb added a comment to T13595: Improve Dolphin homepage.

I would suggest using 3 or 4 long paragraphs instead of a bullet point list. A simple listing of the features is not very attractive and for example instead of saying that there is a tab support you could say: "Dolphin contains many productivity features that will make your life easier in many situations. The multiple tabs and split view features will help you navigate multiple folders at the same time and easily drag and drop files and folders between the open tabs to move them."

Tue, Sep 15, 10:29 AM · Dolphin, KDE Promo
ognarb added a comment to T13595: Improve Dolphin homepage.

I would suggest using 3 or 4 long paragraphs instead of a bullet point list. A simple listing of the features is not very attractive and for example instead of saying that there is a tab support you could say: "Dolphin contains many productivity features that will make your life easier in many situations. The multiple tabs and split view features will help you navigate multiple folders at the same time and easily drag and drop files and folders between the open tabs to move them."

Tue, Sep 15, 9:20 AM · Dolphin, KDE Promo
paulb added a comment to T13595: Improve Dolphin homepage.

The additional features I have mentioned in T13595#239528 are probably more advanced, but I would still consider including them since your casual user will not see the Appstream description at all. Mostly users who are looking for a better file manager will encounter the text we are working on, and this user group is probably more knowledgeable than the average.

Tue, Sep 15, 8:26 AM · Dolphin, KDE Promo
paulb added a comment to T13595: Improve Dolphin homepage.

Use Dolphin to view, open and save your local and remote files.

Tue, Sep 15, 8:23 AM · Dolphin, KDE Promo
xyquadrat added a comment to T13595: Improve Dolphin homepage.

The additional features I have mentioned in T13595#239528 are probably more advanced, but I would still consider including them since your casual user will not see the Appstream description at all. Mostly users who are looking for a better file manager will encounter the text we are working on, and this user group is probably more knowledgeable than the average.

Tue, Sep 15, 5:53 AM · Dolphin, KDE Promo
thiagosueto added a comment to T13595: Improve Dolphin homepage.

Opinions? +1/-1 ?

Tue, Sep 15, 3:19 AM · Dolphin, KDE Promo
thiagosueto added a comment to T13595: Improve Dolphin homepage.

As for the description, the current one is:

Tue, Sep 15, 3:19 AM · Dolphin, KDE Promo
thiagosueto added a comment to T13595: Improve Dolphin homepage.

Personally I liked Paul's suggestion (at least for the appstream summary) as it's fully neutral and descriptive, and I could shorten it like so:

Tue, Sep 15, 2:51 AM · Dolphin, KDE Promo

Mon, Sep 14

marcingu added a comment to D28745: Skip caching thumbnails on encrypted filesystems.

!PING.
I need help from someone with good understanding of Solid to continue.

Mon, Sep 14, 4:22 PM · Frameworks, Dolphin
paulb added a comment to T13595: Improve Dolphin homepage.

I think you may be approaching this from the wrong angle. Instead of starting with the website, I think you should start with what is the essence of the product and build up from there.

Mon, Sep 14, 9:30 AM · Dolphin, KDE Promo
thiagosueto updated subscribers of T13595: Improve Dolphin homepage.

Find, preview, rename, move, copy -- all things I do with Dolphin almost daily.

Beautiful, powerful and flexible are how I would describe Dolphin, just like real dolphins.

Details like naming Baloo should not be in a description for users IMO.

Words like "featureful" and "extensible" make my brain shut down.

Mon, Sep 14, 1:06 AM · Dolphin, KDE Promo
thiagosueto added a comment to T13595: Improve Dolphin homepage.

Oh, now that I noticed: it's about the description, not the summary. (Though I will send a commit for the summary too)
I haven't actually started working on the descriptions, mostly summaries.

Mon, Sep 14, 12:30 AM · Dolphin, KDE Promo

Sun, Sep 13

valorie added a comment to T13595: Improve Dolphin homepage.

Find, preview, rename, move, copy -- all things I do with Dolphin almost daily.

Sun, Sep 13, 11:47 PM · Dolphin, KDE Promo
thiagosueto added a comment to T13595: Improve Dolphin homepage.

+1 or -1 on any of those two? Opinions on how to improve those?
I'll be sending a commit for that soon (a few hours)

Sun, Sep 13, 9:53 PM · Dolphin, KDE Promo
thiagosueto added a comment to T13595: Improve Dolphin homepage.

Yes, I can think of something for the appstream summary.
Currently, it's "File Manager", the same as the .desktop GenericName. GenericName is fine since it's what's shown in the menu and the XDG specs recommend it to be concise, but the appstream summary is a good venue for promotion and can be longer (like one line) as it's shown in Discover.

Sun, Sep 13, 9:42 PM · Dolphin, KDE Promo
ognarb updated subscribers of T13595: Improve Dolphin homepage.

Improving https://kde.org/applications/en/dolphin is really all about improving Dolphin's AppStream metadata, which is a pleasantly small and impactful task since that metadata gets consumed and displayed in lots of locations.

Were you thinking we could additionally have a https://dolphin.kde.org/, like for example https://konsole.kde.org/? That would be the place for richer content.

Sun, Sep 13, 7:13 PM · Dolphin, KDE Promo
elvisangelaccio added a comment to T13595: Improve Dolphin homepage.

https://dolphin.kde.org/ would be nice but very low-priority. I know there is already plenty of work on the table for the websites people ;)

Sun, Sep 13, 6:48 PM · Dolphin, KDE Promo

Sat, Sep 12

ngraham added a comment to T13595: Improve Dolphin homepage.

Improving https://kde.org/applications/en/dolphin is really all about improving Dolphin's AppStream metadata, which is a pleasantly small and impactful task since that metadata gets consumed and displayed in lots of locations.

Sat, Sep 12, 6:56 PM · Dolphin, KDE Promo

Thu, Sep 10

ognarb added a comment to T13595: Improve Dolphin homepage.

This video is very beautiful, could be use the terms and ideas for this page

Thu, Sep 10, 1:23 PM · Dolphin, KDE Promo
xyquadrat added a comment to T13595: Improve Dolphin homepage.

Features:

Navigation (or breadcrumb) bar for URLs, allowing you to quickly navigate through the hierarchy of files and folders.

Most people probably don't think of URLs when browsing through files. Also, is that a special feature? As far as I know basically every file manager has a similar navigation bar.

Supports several different kinds of view styles and properties and allows you to configure the view exactly how you want it.

Maybe add examples (icons, detailed list) for "view styles"

Split view, allowing you to easily copy or move files between locations.
Additional information and shortcuts are available as dock-able panels, allowing you to move them around freely and display exactly what you want.
Multiple tab support

"Tabs support" instead, since there have to be multiple tabs by definition for this to be useful.

Informational dialogues are displayed in an unobtrusive way.

Is that a feature that differentiates Dolphin from other file managers? In my opinion this could be dropped.

Undo/redo support

Rather minor.

Transparent network access through the KIO system.

Reword as "Easily access remote file shares as if they were local through the powerful KIO system" or similar ("network access" is quite abstract)

Thu, Sep 10, 1:08 PM · Dolphin, KDE Promo
angelacunha added a comment to T13595: Improve Dolphin homepage.

This video is very beautiful, could be use the terms and ideas for this page

Thu, Sep 10, 1:07 PM · Dolphin, KDE Promo

Wed, Sep 9

elvisangelaccio created T13595: Improve Dolphin homepage.
Wed, Sep 9, 9:07 PM · Dolphin, KDE Promo

Tue, Sep 8

bruns added a comment to D29526: Thumbnails: make thumbnail generation dpr-aware.

For all but text the DPR is completely irrelevant, large@1 is identical to normal@2.

Yes and that's up to thumbnail creators to decide. To take advantage of this, we would need to introduce some ThumbnailCreator type that would say whether or not generated thumbnail might be influenced by DPR (i.e) text. That would necessitate change the ThumbnailCreator API.

Tue, Sep 8, 1:29 PM · Frameworks, Dolphin
meven added a comment to D29526: Thumbnails: make thumbnail generation dpr-aware.

For all but text the DPR is completely irrelevant, large@1 is identical to normal@2.

Tue, Sep 8, 10:51 AM · Frameworks, Dolphin

Mon, Sep 7

elvisangelaccio closed T5408: Integrate KBookmarks (incl. bookmarks editor) into Dolphin as Resolved.

This has been done!

Mon, Sep 7, 11:54 PM · Dolphin
bruns added inline comments to D29526: Thumbnails: make thumbnail generation dpr-aware.
Mon, Sep 7, 3:54 PM · Frameworks, Dolphin
bruns added inline comments to D29526: Thumbnails: make thumbnail generation dpr-aware.
Mon, Sep 7, 3:51 PM · Frameworks, Dolphin
bruns requested changes to D29526: Thumbnails: make thumbnail generation dpr-aware.

For all but text the DPR is completely irrelevant, large@1 is identical to normal@2.

Mon, Sep 7, 3:19 PM · Frameworks, Dolphin
meven added a comment to D29526: Thumbnails: make thumbnail generation dpr-aware.

I just sent a specification evolution to cover this use case : https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xdg/xdg-specs/-/merge_requests/35

Mon, Sep 7, 9:39 AM · Frameworks, Dolphin

Sun, Sep 6

trmdi added a comment to D28370: Set a better defaultDropAction for dragging.
Sun, Sep 6, 3:51 AM · Dolphin

Sat, Sep 5

elvisangelaccio abandoned D7696: Add "Width" and "Height" separately to Additional Information -> Images.
Sat, Sep 5, 11:44 PM · Dolphin
elvisangelaccio added a comment to D7696: Add "Width" and "Height" separately to Additional Information -> Images.

Superseded by D11816

Sat, Sep 5, 11:44 PM · Dolphin
elvisangelaccio commandeered D7696: Add "Width" and "Height" separately to Additional Information -> Images.
Sat, Sep 5, 11:44 PM · Dolphin
elvisangelaccio added a comment to D28370: Set a better defaultDropAction for dragging.

This caused issues so I reverted it for now.

Sat, Sep 5, 8:58 PM · Dolphin