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- Aug 15 2018, 7:18 AM (22 w, 3 d)
Could work. Another thing I forgot is that when windows are unicolor it would be better if the titlebar font was "Noto Sans Semibold", so the text doesn't quite just blend in with the rest of the window.
What I'd propose is:
- Breeze becomes Breeze Classic
- Breeze Light becomes Breeze
- Shadows of inactive windows become less prominent; setting already exists in some window decorations:
Fri, Jan 18
Wed, Jan 16
Good point. The only problem I'm seeing is that the password and login box cannot be assigned custom colors. The color is determined by the color scheme, which for root is always Breeze, which in turn means the boxes would always be white, even in the dark theme.
They only work for me when using a dark theme:
There is also the possibility of getting the current theme to work without blur & fader. Something still rough (and including some other changes) I've been playing around with:
Sat, Jan 12
I like this because the essence of what the user is doing in this kcm is choosing, rather than configuring.
Fri, Jan 11
For D18078 it would be best to wait until a save cache is implemented, right?
Last diff is much better in general, but Noto Sans 11pt seems to cause problems
Thu, Jan 10
^ Yes, it's important to note that additional (and unwanted) padding underneath the icon can happen with master, while this patch can add the same above the icon. From my layman's understanding, there is nothing quite solid and absolute values are based on.
Wed, Jan 9
FWIW if I backport the spacings and margins prior to D3560 it works great for me. The symmetry around the icon is better than with this diff.
Tue, Jan 8
This is what I get when I test on 2 of my machines:
Could Plasma always copy the used wallpaper to some location and link to that? This is actually an annoyance irrespective of this discussion, if you move your wallpaper on the disk you lose the wallpaper.
It's a total non-issue. @rooty and I have been shifting through loads of wallpapers in the past month or so and it hasn't even occurred to us that this (image editor vs. Plasma cropping) might even be a thing. The difference is minor and not noticeable.
It still has two titles so people would complain there's two titlebars.
Note: scaling Almond Blossom and Two Labrador Retriever Puppies made no sense, these pics have great compression & turned out bigger when shrunk.
Scale oversized wallpapers to 5K; crop the NASA wallpaper in order to remove a visual annoyance
I have some concerns about this. Mostly it's about visual consistency and notifications having different padding than other plasmoids. Notice how there's currently more or less equal distance to the left of Audio Volume and to the left of the album cover icon?
Trying to have more distros include the package is the plan.
Here's some raw numbers listed:
Ah we only ship the biggest size for our additions now. It's the only thing that makes sense for this package IMO, among other things distros will really think twice about shipping it if it's big, like you said.
Mon, Jan 7
Updating an another computer to Frameworks 5.53 and Qt 5.12 I get the same problem.
I was actually just going to reply that light titles could work theoretically well with level 1 headings before I saw your last comment. For this to work right, for me it would mean:
I've booted up Debian 8, KDE SC version 4.14.2. The wallpapers scaled nicely there so I understand your curiosity.
Sun, Jan 6
Couldn't it be this? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338506
And from my understanding this removes the file the SDDM theme needs so I created D18007 as a dependent revision.
I've reproduced what the issue was before. Tests done with a 1280x1024 monitor.
Sat, Jan 5
Thu, Jan 3
I think what happened before was that images would end up looking blurry if scaled and cropped. I know I had to crop my wallpapers manually. It's fine now, though.
I'd suggest to do align all the wrong labels in this repo with the HiG so as to avoid too many diffs.
Wed, Jan 2
Found another case of the FontLight variable being set
So I stumbled upon the Deepin icon theme and what's interesting is I noticed they have more or less remained true to the old app icons, but have also managed to modernize them:
Tue, Jan 1
Mon, Dec 31
Sun, Dec 30
Some of my criticism for our choices:
Our first draft, any and all input is welcome:
Fri, Dec 28
Whatever happened to Oxygen? Would that need some more work (or are we just looking for a font to ship by default?)
Thu, Dec 27
My 2 cents:
- the Ubuntu font has a lot more personality than Noto
- design wise it may down to preference, but nonetheless I think Ubuntu is not quite a top-tier font (but is better than Noto)
- the Ubuntu font really is thicker, which makes it a bit more legible
- Noto has crazy script support, beats Ubuntu in this category
- 11pt is great for laptops that need a scaling factor of 1.1 or 1.2, but represents a negative change for desktop machines
- the question of how well Plasma and the Ubuntu font fit together is worth asking, although we may just not be used to the two being paired
- it's also important to guarantee that upstream will not mess sth up, but anecdotally speaking, I don't think I've ever had a problem with this, and I always non-default fonts.
Tue, Dec 25
Mon, Dec 24
Sun, Dec 23
Hmm that makes sense, thanks for clarifying! I'd also really get behind turning subpixel rendering on by default, if possible.
^ Actually that makes sense, if font rendering looks good OOTB they probably wouldn't tinker with them. Then the problem are the suboptimal FreeType packages shipped with FOSS-committed distros, as well as the font rendering defaults, as you mentioned. That might be where most of the murmur I read come from, but still, we can't be 100% sure of user behavior.
Sat, Dec 22
Totally agree with you about having good defaults, although I am personally opposed to hinting (but have already written about this elsewhere).
Dec 19 2018
I was pretty stoked when I read about this in your blog post. For the longest I've been of the opinion (a caricature follows) that the default design is made as if its purpose is to tell you: "look! this is KWin and the rest of the window is not!".
Dec 16 2018
@rooty you can work something out with action button labels, but the Achilles heel of D16031 and the straw that broke the camel's back for me (= made me go back to advocating blur) was poor legibility of the unselected user's avatar and label.
I'm reopening this because in my tests 3526334e8234 does not fix icons becoming blurry when changing icon sizes and @rooty is reporting he still gets blurry text when renaming icons. Does not happen with this patch, however.
Okay, so apparently 3526334e8234 already fixed the blurry labels, sorry.