I used "development" in the broadest sense. I consider myself a KDE developer, for instance although I don't produce software or help get it out the door. But helping to keep the community healthy, helping to recruit new community members, and helping a bit to promote KDE count as development.

From what I have seen, the key is to get girls and young women involved in the development process. I'm not sure that KDE has the energy to start something new, but perhaps we could partner with some already-active groups such as https://www.blackgirlscode.com/ Black Girls Code, and https://girlswhocode.com/ Girls Who Code. https://www.womenwhocode.com/ is another resource.

Find, preview, rename, move, copy -- all things I do with Dolphin almost daily.

Thanks to @brute4s99 who found https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/search/shop/Apps?q=KDE+e.V. and ms-windows-store://publisher/?name=KDE+e.V. in the Microsoft Store app

On the KDE windows wiki page, we have a (probably outdated) list of apps for Win: https://community.kde.org/Windows

Please don't add a button "Become a mentor." Mentoring is not something a beginner can do. Most of our mentors are either chosen on an informal basis as various experienced people help beginners to learn new skills, or the more formal way that people volunteer to be GSoC/GCi or SoK mentors. Again, newcomers can't do these jobs.

Somehow I missed this discussion when it began. I have to agree with the later comments that a survey will not get us the information we want and need.

Moving to Tbird would make our lives easier. Still, this makes me sad. Perhaps if the Kmail team fixes the gmail issue we can revisit after the LTS is out the door?

I notice that we don't build vvave. I do abhor the name, but it has been released, it is KDE software, and some people like it. Building and getting it into our repos would make it easier to test.

I've been pinged in the Promo chan about creating a new sub-forum for this contest -- I don't know how to do this, sorry.

In T11074#203505, @KonqiDragon wrote:

I before wrote (T11220: Format option) about a simplified USB formating option, when you can will easily format the USB drive from File manager like in Windows, Linux Mint and Deepin.

I don't know if this could be a priority as part of the user experience simplification, but when I first tried the Linux, i couldn't understand how to format my flash drive, so it's important to me personally.

I know the people in Jupiter Broadcasting[[ URL | https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/ ]] and have been interviewed by Chris and some of the others a few times. They are a bit click-baity but do have lots of listeners.

A year or two ago, we had a discussion about using data like this for each application (at least), reporting QC information like (as my fuzzy memories tell me) unit test coverage, devel activity like commits per month/year, etc. I suppose this would have to be done by analysis of the codebase in git -- how difficult is this to do? Do other projects do this, and how?

There are a lot of good points in the various posts here -- can they be taken to some of the lists where concrete decisions and actions can be taken? As @jriddell said, it's rather hidden here, but I think pretty important. KDE-community or KDE-devel for some, Distributions or KDE-Packagers for other parts?

I see @aacid's point about the announcment pages. The new style *looks* much better to me, but is more difficult to read, because each line is longer. When my eye gets to the end of one line, it is hard to find the beginning of the next line. Because it's more work, my eyes tell the rest of my brain: stop reading this.

So, we didn't move to Cala for Cosmic. Shall we do so for Disco? I think now is the time to discuss and decide. @rikmill, @tsimonq2 @ngraham What say you?

Could not Muon be updated in this way as well? It now uses a package icon for all packages which seems a waste of space.

Bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/exfat-utils/+bug/1649537 links to https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/mtl/exfat-licensing.aspx which explicitly states:

My only suggestion: KDE creates the efficient, powerful Plasma desktop environment, hundreds of high-quality applications and the many software libraries that support them.

I love the new Konquis - all of them -- but this use is not good in my opinion. Distracting and somewhat pointless. I would rather see a solid color or gradient. Simple and elegant.

Aye

Rik's list is great! Palapelli is pretty cool too. Single player puzzles. Adding a few games would be excellent. I play klondike from kpat multiple times per week.

In T8381#157221, @raddison wrote:

I have translated the Neon slideshow so I'm pretty sure the text is not incorporated into images. Anyway, making the text translatable is a necessity IMO. Non-English users will not be impressed by a partially translated installer.

Oh! Okay. I stand corrected. It is astonishing how elegant a slideshow can be with just a few well-chosen images and just a bit of text. The installer should probably not be a user manual.

This sounds exciting. Where are we on this? Should we discuss on Kubuntu-devel?

Added to the download page: https://kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/

In T8693#157223, @raddison wrote:

You also tend to formulate your words in an accusatory and inflammatory way that puts people on the defensive.

I intend no harm. Lower your shields :)

Thank you ragreen. I failed at finding it in KDE sources.

All checked for redundancy.

As Rik said in irc, " if we are too push that on people by default, then we need a good case for it being of benefit to that majority, and no detriment to others."

Perhaps by 18.10 we'll have Simple Menu, the One Menu to Rule Them All

@acrouthamel good point; done.

So Peruse, Cutelyst, kio-stash, systemdgenie, Plasma Mycroft and kube remain unpackaged or not uploaded.

Nice! Those are some of my favorites from the past too. +1

I've been using KDE software since around 2002, and Plasma since the very beginning. I think I never changed the default of single-click, but since I can't seem to find a setting for that, without consulting some of those "how-to"s I'll just assume so. Even when using Windows and before that Mac (and before that Coleco ADAM) I've never figured out when it is appropriate to double-click and when single. I'm sorry to say that in KDE software that sense of mild bewilderment is unchanged, which is why I often resort to the commandline when possible.

The previous Call for Hosts: https://ev.kde.org/akademy/CallforHosts_2018.pdf

Our previous Call edited a bit:

mparillo, what packages besides Firefox would be excluded by your no-gtk rule?

+1

Any movement on this behind the scenes? Kubuntu would love not to have to keep up a Kubuntu-only driver manager, and Neon doesn't want to do that either. Surely other distros who use Discover have similar needs?

A non-coder's perspective: please provide a config file rather than patching. Users can merely remove the config file if they don't like the change.

Thanks for the clarification, michaeltunnel. Totally onboard with this small change!

I have no clue (and never had) which is kicker and which is kickoff! So +1 for me for showing the name somewhere -- and also the description. The popups in the icon-only panel (pinned) do show this now.

F8 does seem needlessly obscure. However, alt+H now give "Help" which does seem logical.

I think you are doing the job. Rick created the task, so I guess he should chime in when he can.

The side-by-side is quite dramatic.

I will add comments to your email. I wanted to check out all the links before doing so.

I have those setting already, and I think I set them after reading someone crab about the defaults. I don't know that these are the best settings for the most people, so I guess am a very lazy +1 on this.

Now that I have compositing turned back on, I see the glide effect. I had missed that; I think we used to have it on by default.

This is a truly cool widget, and I did miss the ability to do that easily when leaving my computer. So +1 for this suggestion as well.

Aha, now I see the difference. And while I sort of like it is no professional, as you say.

They do come back indeed. I wonder if I turned that off sometime by mistake.

I have nvidia which I imagine supports it, but I rarely meddle with settings. How would I know if compositing were on or off? I don't think I see shadows.

Turning that effect on and off for me shows no difference when resizing or moving windows, so I have no opinion. On the other hand, turning off effects seems sane unless there is wide-spread support for having them.

Clicked send too quickly. I would support this if our international users were behind it. If not, I'd rather stick with Noto.

As far as I know, it does not. Look at the choices you are offered if you want Noto, in contrast to what you are offered if you choose Ubuntu.

This is *great* looking. I would support this, although the previous wallpaper I thought was pretty bad. This one is just awesome though.

I followed the discussion in KDE which led to the adoption of Noto, and it was based mostly on their coverage of the world, in particular Asian font families, and right-to-left fonts often used in west Asia and some places in Africa. This really is a huge advantage around the world.

VikingRedWolf, really good to see you joining in here!

Wow, I love this second iteration, Andy! Thanks so much for your work. <3

Hey Andy, thanks for the quick work! Of course the k has to be in there, and I agree on the eye. Maybe a bit more open and friendly. The beak is tough enough to fight off malware. :-)

Oh gosh another competition. Please no. On the other hand, it would be cool if people felt so inclined that they could contribute wallpapers with the proper licensing. That could perhaps be done through store.kde.org with a tag of Kubuntu?

For now I added some information at https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved#Ways_to_contribute

We do blacklist it: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/seeds/kubuntu.bionic/desktop

Package now called network-manager-config-connectivity-ubuntu

Well, it would be nice to see snaps offered for those who want them. Are the KDE store offerings available through Discover?

Reasoned criticism is necessary -- and this fellow can help us make the LTS great.

Budgie seems interesting -- anybody have some names of folks we should start chatting with?

Hi folks, I was invited to add input here, so I thought it over. This year was a very heavy travel year for me, and I can't face international travel so soon, so I'll bow out. Have a great time though!

+1 from me, although I always install flash and then block by default. :-)

General awareness, and target audience:

One thing we've discussed a few times in the past is putting some text somewhere in the applications or other menu places. Putting info into installer slides is useful perhaps, for those who see them, but once the install is done, the information is gone. I don't know where such text could live, however.