Please feel free to open it! Or I can, if you'd prefer not to.
Adding border to all toolbar buttons will be super heavy in cases where there is more than a few buttons.
To do changes like this I think we should separate concept of classic toolbars (few toolbars, each with many buttons/controls) and modern "widgets row" (few controls visually aligned with window/content). Or just use QToolButtons with disabled autoRaise to get the border on them.
I don't think glasses will ever look good at small sizes, can't we use something else for Okular? A clip? A highlighter?
That's not a bad icon, but again, I think we owe it to the app developers to be as true to the original icon as possible. That text-origami-bird icon is cool, but it has nothing to do with Kate's original icon. The HIG specifically recommends against this:
Hmm, that looks more like a mail application ;=)
As Tyson is already working on something, but at the moment has not much time, I would tend to just keep Kate's icon as is and look at the final stuff Tyson provides first.
Otherwise I think that is a bit unfair.
Would something like this being enough for Kate i.e. an origami bird made of current icon paper?
Here there is an example of brand artwork using that diagonal shape for Konsole:
What do you think about this kind of icon? This one is for Discover: the puzzle pieces indicate apps and other addons, the triangles the packages that ship the apps and the ">" shape looks like Plasma logo.
I'd agree that flatness taken too far becomes unattractive/dull also for me
personally. When comparing Breeze and latest Iphone icons though, I think
our set looks awesomeness, it is so good that i have yet to find something
else that i would stick to and not go back to Breeze after relative short
time, elemantary included. Since its all subjective, I am not sure if
changing some of Breeze would make things better, but leave everyone
unsatisfied in the end, as current Gwenview, K3B fit imho so good with the
rest that starting to change them would rather require a new style
altogether than mixing or going halfway back to something Oxygen-like?
Maybe look forward for this then for Plasma 6?
@ngraham I don't know about macOS, but ElementaryOS icons look so good because they are designed for each size and I don't think we have the manpower to do that to Breeze icons.
I have a problem with extreme minimalism in same the way that I have a problem with extreme ornamentation. I don't like either one, when taken too far. The problem with doing this is that it irritates people who really dislike that style, and they push you to go in the opposite direction, and then the people who dislike that style object and push you back, and so on forever.
@ngraham I think you have a problem with minimalism :) original Breeze icon for Gwenview, Kate and KWrite were even worse than the current ones by me, in fact I already tried to go back to some Oxygen style.
The problem I have with Gwenview's icon is that it just feels inferior to the Oxygen one.
Just to be clear, is Gwenview icon enough descriptive and distinctive at the same time?
Yeah, an app's icon is a part of its branding. It should look distinctive, not generic. Ideally it communicates both its purpose ("I'm a text editor!") as well as its identity ("I'm Kate!"). I think the problem with some of these icons is that they on;y do the former, not the latter.
Sounds like there should be some additional "Generic icon" entry in the app/desktopfile metadata, so people can decide whether they want to see brand-based icons or function-based icons, like there is with "Name" & "Generic Name".
Actually, that is exactly what I want to have: an arbitrary logo that is distinguishable.
It does Kate a big disservice that we have no icon like Atom/Sublime/Vim/...
A generic "text" icon is nice for a mime-type.
Users will easily detect where to start Atom, but not where to start Kate, as it could just be any other "editor".
Hey there, Gwenview, Kate and Kwrite icons are by me.
Personally I find the Breeze icons dope, especially Kontact, Yakuake, K3b and Ark.
I really like the first approach even more if we could make it a little bit more like GNOME:
When T10201 is finished we could maybe also change the color of the toolbar buttons so that they would stand out more?
Tue, Sep 17
Personally, I prefer the different background instead of frame. I'm afraid it might look out of place either way, though, as the other buttons have neither frames nor different background colors.
Mon, Sep 16
use Kirigami units for vertical margin
change "Frequently used:" to "Frequently Used"