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krzyzowiec added a comment to T11662: Improve visual appeal for KUrlNavigator when in Breadcrumbs mode.
In T11662#209134, @mglb wrote:

Anyway, do we really need to change it to add more lines/boxes? The stated reason ("hard to tell that it's actually a clickable part of the UI") doesn't even seems true - unless world's best UX people are wrong and their designs on most popular websites are not intuitive.

Thu, Nov 21, 9:26 PM · Breeze, VDG
joricke added a comment to T11662: Improve visual appeal for KUrlNavigator when in Breadcrumbs mode.

The biggest problem that I see with the breadcrumbs receiving a new coat of paint with pointy or slanted lines would be the fact that it's a UI element that doesn't exist in vanilla KDE anywhere else in that form. At least I can't think of where it shows up, but please correct me if that is wrong. Taking Gestalt theory into consideration, this might be bad UX as it exposes users to new elements that are unique to that one location.

Thu, Nov 21, 8:38 AM · Breeze, VDG
ndavis added a comment to T10413: Specify how to use and classify monochrome vs color icons.

OK, so we might have a way to progress with this, but this is getting a bit out of my depth right now:
https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xdg/2019-November/014204.html
https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xdg/2019-November/014206.html

Thu, Nov 21, 6:41 AM · Plasma, VDG, Breeze

Yesterday

brute4s99 closed T12011: [promo] Posters/ Banners for KDE Conference India 2020 as Resolved.

If anyone else is still working on the posters, please do post them here anyways so we can promote it over the social media as well.

Wed, Nov 20, 11:31 PM · KDE Promo, VDG
ndavis added a comment to T11662: Improve visual appeal for KUrlNavigator when in Breadcrumbs mode.
In T11662#209138, @mglb wrote:

What does this arrow-down near desktoptheme do?

Wed, Nov 20, 11:29 PM · Breeze, VDG
mglb added a comment to T11662: Improve visual appeal for KUrlNavigator when in Breadcrumbs mode.

What does this arrow-down near desktoptheme do?

Wed, Nov 20, 11:22 PM · Breeze, VDG
ndavis added a comment to T11662: Improve visual appeal for KUrlNavigator when in Breadcrumbs mode.

Here's another mockup:


The Windows version:

Wed, Nov 20, 11:16 PM · Breeze, VDG
mglb added a comment to T11662: Improve visual appeal for KUrlNavigator when in Breadcrumbs mode.


Isn't it cleaner to just have straight lines?

Wed, Nov 20, 10:45 PM · Breeze, VDG
ndavis added a comment to T11662: Improve visual appeal for KUrlNavigator when in Breadcrumbs mode.

We should probably use straight lines. Alignment and getting proportions right is just too messy with the arrow points.

Wed, Nov 20, 10:45 PM · Breeze, VDG
ognarb added a comment to T9041: New "Home" tab for Kickoff.

Little changes for little changes.

Wed, Nov 20, 8:15 PM · Plasma, VDG
ngraham added a comment to T11662: Improve visual appeal for KUrlNavigator when in Breadcrumbs mode.

Various other people have also said they'd prefer straight lines. I kind of like the pointy lines as I think it helps to reinforce the point that this is a directional progression. However I won't push hard, and straight lines would be okay too.

Wed, Nov 20, 2:38 PM · Breeze, VDG
pedrogomes1698 added a comment to T11662: Improve visual appeal for KUrlNavigator when in Breadcrumbs mode.


Isn't it cleaner to just have straight lines?

Wed, Nov 20, 11:04 AM · Breeze, VDG
pedrogomes1698 added a comment to T9041: New "Home" tab for Kickoff.

I think we should keep the usual kickoff the way it is in terms of layout and just give it adjustments to fit the current design language breeze is going for in this next update.

Wed, Nov 20, 10:42 AM · Plasma, VDG
KonqiDragon added a comment to T9041: New "Home" tab for Kickoff.

Shipit! :)

Of course, this looks nothing like Kickoff anymore. It looks more like a set of tweaks to SimpleMenu.

So again, should we basically abandon the idea of improving kickoff and focus on improving SimpleMenu and then ship it by default?

Wed, Nov 20, 10:13 AM · Plasma, VDG
manueljlin added a comment to T9041: New "Home" tab for Kickoff.

I would be in favor of that, but maybe keeping kickoff too just in case might be a good idea too?

Wed, Nov 20, 6:54 AM · Plasma, VDG
krzyzowiec added a comment to T11662: Improve visual appeal for KUrlNavigator when in Breadcrumbs mode.

I really like the idea behind this task (I agree that buttons should look clickable), and I like the redesign as well, except that I believe it is a bit too bold. The strong lines and text conflict because your focus cannot rest on any particular element. When looking at this image, I feel like I am being pulled in many different directions. The proper place of focus is on the path of course, and luckily I think that de-emphasizing the background elements will allow you to accomplish both primary goals. This can be done many ways, but here is one example (ignore any text blur, I mocked it up very quickly in gimp).

Wed, Nov 20, 6:18 AM · Breeze, VDG
ngraham added a comment to T9041: New "Home" tab for Kickoff.

Wed, Nov 20, 1:37 AM · Plasma, VDG

Tue, Nov 19

KonqiDragon added a comment to T9041: New "Home" tab for Kickoff.



Made a little change, I think it gives it a cleaner look.

Tue, Nov 19, 11:17 PM · Plasma, VDG
pedrogomes1698 added a comment to T9041: New "Home" tab for Kickoff.



Made a little change, I think it gives it a cleaner look.

Tue, Nov 19, 11:01 PM · Plasma, VDG
KonqiDragon added a comment to T9041: New "Home" tab for Kickoff.

How about this?

Tue, Nov 19, 10:53 PM · Plasma, VDG
KonqiDragon added a comment to T9041: New "Home" tab for Kickoff.
Tue, Nov 19, 10:49 PM · Plasma, VDG
ngraham added a comment to T9041: New "Home" tab for Kickoff.

How about this?

Tue, Nov 19, 10:39 PM · Plasma, VDG
KonqiDragon added a comment to T9041: New "Home" tab for Kickoff.

the second one is good, but let's use a real search field in the toolbar, not a fake invisible borderless one. :)
Also maybe the bottom bar with the power/session buttons should span the full width of the window.

Tue, Nov 19, 10:08 PM · Plasma, VDG
filipf added a comment to T9041: New "Home" tab for Kickoff.

I like bottom left. I think that highlight effect is more appropriate as it indicates that some category has been selected. The one in the top left feels more like the effect when you hover over items in a list (but nothing is simultaneously open).

Tue, Nov 19, 10:04 PM · Plasma, VDG
ngraham added a comment to T9041: New "Home" tab for Kickoff.

The power/session buttons aren't depicted in a highlighted state, so it's not relevant. Toolbuttons have no visible frame when not hovered/highlighted/clicked.

Tue, Nov 19, 10:02 PM · Plasma, VDG
pedrogomes1698 added a comment to T9041: New "Home" tab for Kickoff.

Aren't the bottom ones the latest way of highlighting?

Tue, Nov 19, 9:58 PM · Plasma, VDG
ngraham added a comment to T9041: New "Home" tab for Kickoff.

+1 for top-left version

Tue, Nov 19, 9:55 PM · Plasma, VDG
manueljlin added a comment to T9041: New "Home" tab for Kickoff.

the second one is good, but let's use a real search field in the toolbar, not a fake invisible borderless one. :)
Also maybe the bottom bar with the power/session buttons should span the full width of the window.

Tue, Nov 19, 9:51 PM · Plasma, VDG
ngraham added a comment to T12068: Combine the UIs for Virtual Desktop and Activities.

In principle Activities also have separate sets of favorites, widget settings, lists of recent documents and apps, app settings, etc. As far as I can tell, the idea is to make it like having a second user account, but with access to your files.

Tue, Nov 19, 9:27 PM · VDG, Plasma
alexde added a comment to T12068: Combine the UIs for Virtual Desktop and Activities.

Do I understand it correctly, that Activities are in principle sets of desktop Widgets and backgrounds?

Tue, Nov 19, 9:15 PM · VDG, Plasma
KonqiDragon added a comment to T9041: New "Home" tab for Kickoff.

the second one is good, but let's use a real search field in the toolbar, not a fake invisible borderless one. :)

Also maybe the bottom bar with the power/session buttons should span the full width of the window.

Also, shall we maybe add a new task to discuss these proposed changes to SimpleMenu? Or are these proposals still for Kickoff?

Tue, Nov 19, 9:09 PM · Plasma, VDG
ngraham added a comment to T9041: New "Home" tab for Kickoff.

Tue, Nov 19, 9:07 PM · Plasma, VDG
manueljlin added a comment to T9041: New "Home" tab for Kickoff.

Tue, Nov 19, 8:54 PM · Plasma, VDG
KonqiDragon added a comment to T9041: New "Home" tab for Kickoff.

I think, the search should be where the applications, in right.

I would move the search field back to the top and put the row of power/session buttons back at the bottom, now that there's no problem with a tab nar nearby to make the clicks risky.

Tue, Nov 19, 8:41 PM · Plasma, VDG
ngraham added a comment to T9041: New "Home" tab for Kickoff.

I think, the search should be where the applications, in right.

Tue, Nov 19, 8:37 PM · Plasma, VDG
ngraham added a comment to T9041: New "Home" tab for Kickoff.

To be honest, I would be fine replacing Kickoff with SimpleMenu if it got some polish, bugfixes, and a few of the features from Kickoff (recent documents, recent places, etc).

Tue, Nov 19, 8:36 PM · Plasma, VDG
KonqiDragon added a comment to T9041: New "Home" tab for Kickoff.

at that point you might as well get rid of the tabs, and place the locations option somewhere else

Is a search of category?

Tue, Nov 19, 8:35 PM · Plasma, VDG
manueljlin added a comment to T9041: New "Home" tab for Kickoff.

yeah hahaha

Tue, Nov 19, 8:31 PM · Plasma, VDG
ngraham added a comment to T9041: New "Home" tab for Kickoff.

Aaaaand then you've almost 100% reinvented SimpleMenu. :)

Tue, Nov 19, 8:28 PM · Plasma, VDG
manueljlin added a comment to T9041: New "Home" tab for Kickoff.

at that point you might as well get rid of the tabs, and place the locations option somewhere else

Tue, Nov 19, 8:27 PM · Plasma, VDG
KonqiDragon added a comment to T9041: New "Home" tab for Kickoff.


Yeah I'd like if home was more simple like this, or at least have a option to activate and deactivate the "recent" ones.
Did a little change to Manuel's mockup.

Maybe add a categories by default?

That's basically the "All Apps" page. If the home page looks like that, then we don't need the "All Apps" page.

This does make some sense though. If we add favorites as the default category on the apps page, then we can use that as the home page. Recent apps could simply be another category there too. And I happen to know that the model supports showing recent documents in yet another category.

So maybe we should just do that.

Tue, Nov 19, 8:10 PM · Plasma, VDG
ngraham added a comment to T9041: New "Home" tab for Kickoff.


Yeah I'd like if home was more simple like this, or at least have a option to activate and deactivate the "recent" ones.
Did a little change to Manuel's mockup.

Maybe add a categories by default?

Tue, Nov 19, 8:03 PM · Plasma, VDG
KonqiDragon added a comment to T9041: New "Home" tab for Kickoff.


Yeah I'd like if home was more simple like this, or at least have a option to activate and deactivate the "recent" ones.
Did a little change to Manuel's mockup.

Tue, Nov 19, 7:41 PM · Plasma, VDG
pedrogomes1698 added a comment to T9041: New "Home" tab for Kickoff.


Yeah I'd like if home was more simple like this, or at least have a option to activate and deactivate the "recent" ones.
Did a little change to Manuel's mockup.

Tue, Nov 19, 7:08 PM · Plasma, VDG
ngraham added a comment to T12068: Combine the UIs for Virtual Desktop and Activities.

We discussed this inAt Akademy 2017 and that concern came up. What I recall us settling on was making activities into groups of virtual desktops. Each activity could have one or more desktops, with those desktops arranged in any row or grid.

Tue, Nov 19, 6:52 PM · VDG, Plasma
KonqiDragon added a comment to T9041: New "Home" tab for Kickoff.

maybe this approach is better?
btw, i'm uploading this from my phone, it might be a bit compressed

alternating stripey backgrounds colors are only used for multi-column lists, because they help you visually align the data for a particular item in the other columns. For single-column lists, we don't need to use alternating background colors.

also, should the tabs have the line over the text like the other mockups or over the text like D25334?

Like in D25334. Thanks!

1x only because the image is huge

Tue, Nov 19, 6:30 PM · Plasma, VDG
niccolove added a comment to T11925: Breeze Desktop Theme Transparency.

Another possibility is to have different transparency for panel and widgets:

Tue, Nov 19, 5:39 PM · VDG
manueljlin added a comment to T9041: New "Home" tab for Kickoff.

maybe this approach is better?
btw, i'm uploading this from my phone, it might be a bit compressed

alternating stripey backgrounds colors are only used for multi-column lists, because they help you visually align the data for a particular item in the other columns. For single-column lists, we don't need to use alternating background colors.

also, should the tabs have the line over the text like the other mockups or over the text like D25334?

Like in D25334. Thanks!

Tue, Nov 19, 5:35 PM · Plasma, VDG
ndavis added a comment to T10891: Breeze theme evolution.

Ooh, interesting thoughts. Let's see:

Hover Colors

This could be fairly easy to implement, depending on how Breeze currently paints the color. For my theme I'm painting the titlebar's font in a dynamic way like so:

const QRgb brightFont = 0xFFFFFFFF;
QColor color = ( this->titleBarColor() );
int y = 0.2126*color.red()+0.7152*color.green()+0.0722*color.blue();
QColor newFont ( forceBrightFonts() ? brightFont : y > 128 ? color.lighter(40) : brightFont );

It's taking the color of the titlebar and calculating a lightness value (0-255) with y. Afterwards a check for the value is done and color adjusted accordingly. On a button it could look similar (pseudocode):

QColor color = ( this->buttonBackgroundColor() );
int y = 0.2126*color.red()+0.7152*color.green()+0.0722*color.blue();
QColor hoverColor ( y > 128 ? color.lighter(40) : color.lighter(180) );

That way the color adjusts accordingly to the color scheme's base color.

Tue, Nov 19, 10:23 AM · Plasma, VDG, Breeze
ndavis added a comment to T12068: Combine the UIs for Virtual Desktop and Activities.

Would that impair a setup that is already using VDs in a 2x2 grid? Asking for a friend :^)
Honestly though, what would happen on desktops that are using said grid? Would Activities be forced in my layout?

Tue, Nov 19, 7:24 AM · VDG, Plasma