The situation improved a lot over the last plasma versions. I close this til i can come up with something more concrete.
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Jul 22 2023
In T7039#167740, @apol wrote:I guess what marco meant was that one needs to be able to trigger the actions in the drawers and the action buttons using the keyboard.
Now it should be working with the Alt+Letter shortcut.
I guess you can make sure it works fine using Discover or the Kirigami Gallery applications.
This seems to work now quite well.
This seems to be fixed. Orca reworked the way how shortcuts are grabbed and speech is interrupted on focus change. I assume this fixed it.
I finally was able to do a detailed test.
Works like a charm. Thanks a lot :)! good work.
Works like a charm
Works like a charm
Oct 19 2022
Aug 28 2022
Aug 4 2022
Towards the end s/Summery/Summary/
Jul 26 2022
if someone is interested in i just wrote some blog posts about the accessibility tools of KDE Plasma and its integration of assistive technologys:
Jul 24 2022
cool :). So the screenreader can read them automatical when they appear on screen? or is the "history" list applet of last notifications now accessible?
Jun 23 2022
Jun 21 2022
Jun 20 2022
I think this is related to Task 14388
Fixed in 5.25
I still see this issue in KCM. i. e. Notifications or User section is not accessible at all. I think the focus is broken somehow.
Ah sorry, i just moved the tasks i tested to "done" section. i will close them.
Thanks!
It seems to be navigate able now. But orca is not able to read the widgets. i think the focus chain is broken somehow. i have to investigate this.
The Applet seems now be navigate able but maybe the focus handling is broken or there are missing accessibility roles / names as orca cannot read it. I will investigate.
Seems the Magnification was rewritten to fix almost any glitches i found.
Works awsome in Plasma 5.25.
This is fixed in Plasma 5.25 and works quite awesome.
This is fixed in Plasma 5.25 and works quite awsome!
Jun 19 2022
Howdy Carl,
Jan 21 2022
As the System Settings are currently the biggest issue, can i help here somehow?
I missed that one as well.
How can i test it?
Dec 14 2021
this is fixed in most my current KDE Plasma 5.24.x installation
Mar 3 2021
Seems that most of the KCM Setting "Pages" are not accessible anymore since KDE Plasma 5.21
Sadly blind people are not able to configure the system properly with this. So its something like an "accessibility show stopper"
@ognarb noted in IRC to me that the focus might not forwarded properly to to active control.
Dec 15 2020
looool you are damn right XD
In T8804#143878, @graesslin wrote:Qt virtual keyboard is unfortunately unsuited on an X11 session.
seems to be related:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maliit
Nov 26 2020
In T11520#225277, @alexde wrote:In T11520#203511, @chempfling wrote:
- Alt + XXX combinations are used for the menu bar of the current application
Firefox or Thunderbird use Alt+M.
Ctrl + M is used in most KDE applications to display/hide a menu bar, though at least Konsole differs here with Ctrl+Shift+M.
Jan 7 2020
In T12192#216454, @hein wrote:@chwmpfling Definitely the plan! Will appreciate your review
Jan 3 2020
Sounds awsome, i have to play with its accessibility later.
Would be cool to keep accessibility in mind just from beginning to have a proper focus and keyboard handling :). I can take a look at the accesdibility roles and labels then if wanted.
Nov 25 2019
In T10837#210437, @vinzenzv wrote:If you're looking for a location for this sprint just ping me. Maybe we at TUXEDO Computers could arrange something here in southern Germany.
Oct 21 2019
Oct 4 2019
In T11520#203532, @thiagosueto wrote:Quite interesting stuff! I did not know about Ctrl+Space, F7, F10, Shift+F10, Ctrl+F4, Ctrl+Shift+PictureUp/Down.
I also did not know that Pos1 = Home and Picture Up/Down = PageUp/PageDown.
One thing I noticed is that Ctrl+F4 conflicts with Plasma's default "Switch to Desktop 4". It's a non-issue if Ctrl+W exists, though.
In case of UI accessibility i know that the following terms are true and most importaint for basic keyboard only navigation:
- all combinatins with META are made for "global scope" like window manager, desktop environment and such.
- Alt + XXX combinations are used for the menu bar of the current application
- Tab: brings the user to the next Element
- Shift + Tab: brings the user to the previouse element
- Ctrl + Tab: brings the user to the next Panel ( logical group of widgets)
- Ctrl + Shift + Tab brings the user to the prviouse Panel ( logical group of widgets)
- Arrow keys: bring the focus to the next element in the arrow direction
- Return: activates current element (like leftclick on current focused element)
- Spacebar: activates current element (like leftclick on current focused element)
- Shift+ Arrow: mark entries in direction
- Ctrl + Spacebar: select entries with cherrypicking (hold Ctrl to navigate around and not lose the current selection; navigation without hold Ctrl removes selection)
- F10: focus/ (on some systems also opens ) the menubar of the current application
- Shift + F10: opens context menu (like rightclick on current focused element) - not every keyboard has an "menu key" thats why this is an alternative -> special laptops
- ESC: stop current activity
- F7: Toggles an Caret on / off -> Textcursor
- F1: Open Help
- F2: Rename / edit
- F3: Search
- Alt + F4: Close current application
- Ctrl + Q: Close current application (in multi tap applications)
- Ctrl + F4: Close current Tab (in multi tap applications)
- Ctrl + W: Close current Tab (in multi tap applications)
- F5: Refresh
- F11: Fullscreen / Window Mode Toggle
- Pos1: focus first element
- End: focus last element
- Picture up/ down: move all the screen up / down
- Ctrl + Picture up/ down: go to next tab.
- Ctrl + Shift + Picture up / down: go to previous tab
In T11074#203505, @KonqiDragon wrote:I before wrote (T11220: Format option) about a simplified USB formating option, when you can will easily format the USB drive from File manager like in Windows, Linux Mint and Deepin.
I don't know if this could be a priority as part of the user experience simplification, but when I first tried the Linux, i couldn't understand how to format my flash drive, so it's important to me personally.
Sep 19 2019
i m all in with this. Keyboard shortcuts an navigation is one of the most basic parts for accessibility and power users. I will do some investigation here and come back with hopefully something useful.
Sep 10 2019
Oh yea, we will for sure towards improving the accessibility. This is very needed at this point :).
if others here want to help and pick up some accessibility related tasks (what often goes hand in hand with usability, as it also means you can use the desktop with eyboard only), just assign to the accessibility mailing list and join us :).
We are happy for any helping hand and it would be coold to fom a real accessibility team.
Aug 21 2019
Aug 20 2019
Awsome, Thanks!
@broulik could you take a look at? we should have now an own accessibility role for notifications what needs to be set.
Aug 14 2019
In T11074#195406, @paulb wrote:Hey @chempfling, I think the title of your goal should be more explicit in what you want to achieve. May I suggest Make KDE more Accessible for Everybody?
Aug 3 2019
Ok, I think its ready :) and cross my finger for an A11y open minded community :)
Jul 19 2019
One reason more to apply this Goal :) otherwise we do not fit out own HIG for large parts.
In T11074#192473, @johanneszarl wrote:If this goal is chosen, I'd like to make a suggestion:
For me as an application developer it would be beneficial to have detailed guidelines towards this goal:
- what is considered the base standard?
- what additional steps can be taken?
- And most importantly: have some test plans for the different aspects of accessibility that I can check my application against.
Jul 15 2019
In T11074#191715, @feverfew wrote:Note that this goal is necessary for T11080 to succeed. It's quite common in a lot of companies/governments that they make suitable provisions for those with disabilities, where possible.
Jun 18 2019
In T11074#189317, @jrioux wrote:Also, should KDE review it's default key mapping ? I end up having to configure switch desktop up/down/left/right to crtl+alt+arrow. Are there many other default mapping that could be added ? also never found what was : alt+shift+backtab ...
I like using meta+arrow to title a window, but more commands should be added for true keyboard navigation. like move to desktop/screen, fullscreen, put focus on screen X...
Perhaps review defaults shortcuts, do pools to find what ppl change and try to define a complete set of shortcut commands that would please most ? Or provide different default key-profile ?
IMO a good default key mapping is a huge part of Accessibility. I think those should be intuitive and easy to remember.
agree here. many parts are not reachable using shortcuts at all.
try to access the notification area or networks using shortcuts..
Landed.
Thanks!
Jun 17 2019
Additional :), it would help to fit our new shiny HIG!
https://hig.kde.org/accessibility/index.html