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Jul 22 2023

chempfling moved T10836: Improve KWin switcher roles from In progress to Todo on the Plasma Accessibility board.
Jul 22 2023, 6:43 AM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling closed T7038: System settings: keyboard navigation in the sidebar as Resolved.

The situation improved a lot over the last plasma versions. I close this til i can come up with something more concrete.

Jul 22 2023, 6:43 AM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling closed T7038: System settings: keyboard navigation in the sidebar, a subtask of T14388: Accessible list/grid delegates, as Resolved.
Jul 22 2023, 6:43 AM · Plasma Accessibility, VDG
chempfling claimed T10099: Make Konsole accessible.
Jul 22 2023, 6:43 AM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling closed T7039: Kirigami: keyboard navigation in action buttons and drawers as Resolved.
In T7039#167740, @apol wrote:

I guess what marco meant was that one needs to be able to trigger the actions in the drawers and the action buttons using the keyboard.

Now it should be working with the Alt+Letter shortcut.

I guess you can make sure it works fine using Discover or the Kirigami Gallery applications.

Jul 22 2023, 6:43 AM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling moved T10099: Make Konsole accessible from Todo to In progress on the Plasma Accessibility board.
Jul 22 2023, 6:43 AM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling moved T7033: Improve NetworkManager applet navigation from In progress to Done on the Plasma Accessibility board.
Jul 22 2023, 6:43 AM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling moved T10059: Bluetooth Plasmoid is not keyboard navigate able from In progress to Todo on the Plasma Accessibility board.
Jul 22 2023, 6:43 AM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling closed T7033: Improve NetworkManager applet navigation as Resolved.

This seems to work now quite well.

Jul 22 2023, 6:43 AM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling moved T10057: Volume Plasmoid is not keyboard navigate able from In progress to Todo on the Plasma Accessibility board.
Jul 22 2023, 6:43 AM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling moved T10063: Vault Plasmoid is missing A11y labels and roles from In progress to Todo on the Plasma Accessibility board.
Jul 22 2023, 6:43 AM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling moved T10058: Printer Plasmoid is not keyboard navigate able from In progress to Todo on the Plasma Accessibility board.
Jul 22 2023, 6:43 AM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling closed T10019: Kate issues as Resolved.

This seems to be fixed. Orca reworked the way how shortcuts are grabbed and speech is interrupted on focus change. I assume this fixed it.

Jul 22 2023, 6:43 AM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling closed T14388: Accessible list/grid delegates as Resolved.

I finally was able to do a detailed test.
Works like a charm. Thanks a lot :)! good work.

Jul 22 2023, 6:43 AM · Plasma Accessibility, VDG
chempfling moved T10019: Kate issues from In progress to Done on the Plasma Accessibility board.
Jul 22 2023, 6:43 AM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling closed T10060: Network Plasmoid is not keyboard navigate able as Resolved.

Works like a charm

Jul 22 2023, 6:43 AM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling closed T14388: Accessible list/grid delegates, a subtask of T14387: SySe5 Accessibility, as Resolved.
Jul 22 2023, 6:43 AM · Plasma Accessibility, VDG
chempfling moved T10060: Network Plasmoid is not keyboard navigate able from In progress to Done on the Plasma Accessibility board.
Jul 22 2023, 6:43 AM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling closed T11041: Make notifications accessible as Resolved.

Works like a charm

Jul 22 2023, 6:43 AM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling moved T11041: Make notifications accessible from In progress to Done on the Plasma Accessibility board.
Jul 22 2023, 6:43 AM · Plasma Accessibility

Oct 19 2022

chempfling moved T10058: Printer Plasmoid is not keyboard navigate able from Todo to In progress on the Plasma Accessibility board.
Oct 19 2022, 11:36 AM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling moved T10063: Vault Plasmoid is missing A11y labels and roles from Todo to In progress on the Plasma Accessibility board.
Oct 19 2022, 11:36 AM · Plasma Accessibility

Aug 28 2022

chempfling moved T10060: Network Plasmoid is not keyboard navigate able from Todo to In progress on the Plasma Accessibility board.
Aug 28 2022, 2:17 PM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling moved T10059: Bluetooth Plasmoid is not keyboard navigate able from Todo to In progress on the Plasma Accessibility board.
Aug 28 2022, 2:17 PM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling moved T10057: Volume Plasmoid is not keyboard navigate able from Todo to In progress on the Plasma Accessibility board.
Aug 28 2022, 2:17 PM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling moved T7033: Improve NetworkManager applet navigation from Todo to In progress on the Plasma Accessibility board.
Aug 28 2022, 2:17 PM · Plasma Accessibility

Aug 4 2022

chempfling added a comment to T15611: KDE For All: Boosting Accessibility.

Part 1
https://www.patreon.com/posts/68193080

Towards the end s/Summery/Summary/

Aug 4 2022, 9:17 PM · Goal Setting 2022

Jul 26 2022

chempfling added a comment to T15611: KDE For All: Boosting Accessibility.

if someone is interested in i just wrote some blog posts about the accessibility tools of KDE Plasma and its integration of assistive technologys:

Jul 26 2022, 1:05 AM · Goal Setting 2022

Jul 24 2022

chempfling added a comment to T11041: Make notifications accessible.

cool :). So the screenreader can read them automatical when they appear on screen? or is the "history" list applet of last notifications now accessible?

Jul 24 2022, 1:28 PM · Plasma Accessibility

Jun 23 2022

chempfling updated the task description for T15611: KDE For All: Boosting Accessibility.
Jun 23 2022, 3:33 PM · Goal Setting 2022

Jun 21 2022

chempfling awarded T15611: KDE For All: Boosting Accessibility a 100 token.
Jun 21 2022, 11:44 PM · Goal Setting 2022

Jun 20 2022

chempfling added a parent task for T7038: System settings: keyboard navigation in the sidebar: T14388: Accessible list/grid delegates.
Jun 20 2022, 11:35 PM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling added a subtask for T14388: Accessible list/grid delegates: T7038: System settings: keyboard navigation in the sidebar.
Jun 20 2022, 11:35 PM · Plasma Accessibility, VDG
chempfling added a comment to T7038: System settings: keyboard navigation in the sidebar.

I think this is related to Task 14388

Jun 20 2022, 11:34 PM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling closed T10064: Clipboard Plasmoid focus handling and keyboard navigation as Resolved.
Jun 20 2022, 11:32 PM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling added a comment to T10064: Clipboard Plasmoid focus handling and keyboard navigation.

Fixed in 5.25

Jun 20 2022, 11:32 PM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling moved T7038: System settings: keyboard navigation in the sidebar from Done to In progress on the Plasma Accessibility board.
Jun 20 2022, 11:32 PM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling added a comment to T7038: System settings: keyboard navigation in the sidebar.

I still see this issue in KCM. i. e. Notifications or User section is not accessible at all. I think the focus is broken somehow.

Jun 20 2022, 11:31 PM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling closed T7031: Panel focus on shortcut as Resolved.
Jun 20 2022, 11:30 PM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling closed T10056: Tray Icons: Notification Area is not keyboard navigate able. as Resolved.
Jun 20 2022, 11:30 PM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling added a comment to T10055: KWin Zoom Plugin: Show Windows plugin doesnt work properly.

Ah sorry, i just moved the tasks i tested to "done" section. i will close them.
Thanks!

Jun 20 2022, 11:29 PM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling added a comment to T10057: Volume Plasmoid is not keyboard navigate able.

It seems to be navigate able now. But orca is not able to read the widgets. i think the focus chain is broken somehow. i have to investigate this.

Jun 20 2022, 11:20 PM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling added a comment to T7033: Improve NetworkManager applet navigation.

The Applet seems now be navigate able but maybe the focus handling is broken or there are missing accessibility roles / names as orca cannot read it. I will investigate.

Jun 20 2022, 11:15 PM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling added a comment to T10055: KWin Zoom Plugin: Show Windows plugin doesnt work properly.

Seems the Magnification was rewritten to fix almost any glitches i found.
Works awsome in Plasma 5.25.

Jun 20 2022, 11:13 PM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling moved T10055: KWin Zoom Plugin: Show Windows plugin doesnt work properly from Todo to Done on the Plasma Accessibility board.
Jun 20 2022, 11:11 PM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling moved T10056: Tray Icons: Notification Area is not keyboard navigate able. from Todo to Done on the Plasma Accessibility board.
Jun 20 2022, 11:08 PM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling added a comment to T10056: Tray Icons: Notification Area is not keyboard navigate able..

This is fixed in Plasma 5.25 and works quite awesome.

Jun 20 2022, 11:07 PM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling moved T7031: Panel focus on shortcut from Todo to Done on the Plasma Accessibility board.
Jun 20 2022, 11:04 PM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling added a comment to T7031: Panel focus on shortcut.

This is fixed in Plasma 5.25 and works quite awsome!

Jun 20 2022, 11:04 PM · Plasma Accessibility

Jun 19 2022

chempfling added a comment to T15611: KDE For All: Boosting Accessibility.

Howdy Carl,

Jun 19 2022, 5:09 PM · Goal Setting 2022

Jan 21 2022

chempfling added a comment to T14390: Accessible QtWidgets/QtQuick split.

As the System Settings are currently the biggest issue, can i help here somehow?

Jan 21 2022, 10:52 AM · Plasma Accessibility, VDG
chempfling added a comment to T14388: Accessible list/grid delegates.

I missed that one as well.
How can i test it?

Jan 21 2022, 10:43 AM · Plasma Accessibility, VDG

Dec 14 2021

chempfling closed T10054: KWin Zoom Plugin: Task Switcher shown correctly as Resolved.
Dec 14 2021, 3:04 PM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling added a comment to T10054: KWin Zoom Plugin: Task Switcher shown correctly.

this is fixed in most my current KDE Plasma 5.24.x installation

Dec 14 2021, 3:04 PM · Plasma Accessibility

Mar 3 2021

chempfling triaged T7038: System settings: keyboard navigation in the sidebar as High priority.
Mar 3 2021, 8:34 PM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling moved T7038: System settings: keyboard navigation in the sidebar from Todo to In progress on the Plasma Accessibility board.
Mar 3 2021, 8:34 PM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling added a comment to T7038: System settings: keyboard navigation in the sidebar.

Seems that most of the KCM Setting "Pages" are not accessible anymore since KDE Plasma 5.21
Sadly blind people are not able to configure the system properly with this. So its something like an "accessibility show stopper"
@ognarb noted in IRC to me that the focus might not forwarded properly to to active control.

Mar 3 2021, 8:33 PM · Plasma Accessibility

Dec 15 2020

chempfling updated subscribers of T9878: Default application starter menu is missing a11y Labels.
Dec 15 2020, 10:56 PM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling updated subscribers of T10088: Application Menu (Kicker): Favorite section is not focusable with tab.
Dec 15 2020, 10:55 PM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling updated subscribers of T10065: Default application starter does not handle focus.
Dec 15 2020, 10:55 PM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling updated subscribers of T10096: Kicker: expose number of childs for kicker start menu.
Dec 15 2020, 10:55 PM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling updated subscribers of T10097: Kicker: expose information "submenu" or "application".
Dec 15 2020, 10:54 PM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling added a comment to T10097: Kicker: expose information "submenu" or "application".

looool you are damn right XD

Dec 15 2020, 10:53 PM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling awarded T8888: Integrate alternative input systems in Plasma a Love token.
Dec 15 2020, 10:45 AM · VDG, Plasma Accessibility
chempfling added a comment to T8804: Add an On Screen Keyboard to Plasma (for X11).

Qt virtual keyboard is unfortunately unsuited on an X11 session.

Dec 15 2020, 10:38 AM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling added a comment to T8804: Add an On Screen Keyboard to Plasma (for X11).

seems to be related:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maliit

Dec 15 2020, 10:32 AM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling moved T10065: Default application starter does not handle focus from Todo to In progress on the Plasma Accessibility board.
Dec 15 2020, 10:28 AM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling moved T10097: Kicker: expose information "submenu" or "application" from Todo to In progress on the Plasma Accessibility board.
Dec 15 2020, 10:28 AM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling moved T10096: Kicker: expose number of childs for kicker start menu from Todo to In progress on the Plasma Accessibility board.
Dec 15 2020, 10:28 AM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling moved T10088: Application Menu (Kicker): Favorite section is not focusable with tab from Todo to In progress on the Plasma Accessibility board.
Dec 15 2020, 10:28 AM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling moved T9878: Default application starter menu is missing a11y Labels from Todo to In progress on the Plasma Accessibility board.
Dec 15 2020, 10:28 AM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling updated subscribers of T10097: Kicker: expose information "submenu" or "application".
Dec 15 2020, 10:27 AM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling updated subscribers of T10096: Kicker: expose number of childs for kicker start menu.
Dec 15 2020, 10:27 AM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling updated subscribers of T10088: Application Menu (Kicker): Favorite section is not focusable with tab.
Dec 15 2020, 10:26 AM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling updated subscribers of T9878: Default application starter menu is missing a11y Labels.
Dec 15 2020, 10:26 AM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling updated subscribers of T10065: Default application starter does not handle focus.
Dec 15 2020, 10:26 AM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling added a comment to T10065: Default application starter does not handle focus.

https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-desktop/-/merge_requests/258

Dec 15 2020, 10:25 AM · Plasma Accessibility

Nov 26 2020

chempfling added a comment to T11520: Improve keyboard shortcuts, standardization, RSI preventability.
  • Alt + XXX combinations are used for the menu bar of the current application

Firefox or Thunderbird use Alt+M.
Ctrl + M is used in most KDE applications to display/hide a menu bar, though at least Konsole differs here with Ctrl+Shift+M.

Nov 26 2020, 11:19 AM · Goal: Consistency, Plasma Accessibility

Jan 7 2020

chempfling added a comment to T12192: Redesign application launcher.
In T12192#216454, @hein wrote:

@chwmpfling Definitely the plan! Will appreciate your review

Jan 7 2020, 11:52 PM · Plasma, VDG

Jan 3 2020

chempfling added a comment to T12192: Redesign application launcher.

Sounds awsome, i have to play with its accessibility later.
Would be cool to keep accessibility in mind just from beginning to have a proper focus and keyboard handling :). I can take a look at the accesdibility roles and labels then if wanted.

Jan 3 2020, 9:58 AM · Plasma, VDG

Nov 25 2019

chempfling added a comment to T10837: Plasma Accessibility Sprint.

If you're looking for a location for this sprint just ping me. Maybe we at TUXEDO Computers could arrange something here in southern Germany.

Nov 25 2019, 3:22 PM · Plasma Accessibility

Oct 21 2019

chempfling updated the task description for T11520: Improve keyboard shortcuts, standardization, RSI preventability.
Oct 21 2019, 1:37 PM · Goal: Consistency, Plasma Accessibility

Oct 4 2019

chempfling added a comment to T11520: Improve keyboard shortcuts, standardization, RSI preventability.

Quite interesting stuff! I did not know about Ctrl+Space, F7, F10, Shift+F10, Ctrl+F4, Ctrl+Shift+PictureUp/Down.

I also did not know that Pos1 = Home and Picture Up/Down = PageUp/PageDown.

One thing I noticed is that Ctrl+F4 conflicts with Plasma's default "Switch to Desktop 4". It's a non-issue if Ctrl+W exists, though.

Oct 4 2019, 9:35 PM · Goal: Consistency, Plasma Accessibility
chempfling updated subscribers of T11520: Improve keyboard shortcuts, standardization, RSI preventability.
Oct 4 2019, 10:43 AM · Goal: Consistency, Plasma Accessibility
chempfling added a comment to T11520: Improve keyboard shortcuts, standardization, RSI preventability.

In case of UI accessibility i know that the following terms are true and most importaint for basic keyboard only navigation:

  • all combinatins with META are made for "global scope" like window manager, desktop environment and such.
  • Alt + XXX combinations are used for the menu bar of the current application
  • Tab: brings the user to the next Element
  • Shift + Tab: brings the user to the previouse element
  • Ctrl + Tab: brings the user to the next Panel ( logical group of widgets)
  • Ctrl + Shift + Tab brings the user to the prviouse Panel ( logical group of widgets)
  • Arrow keys: bring the focus to the next element in the arrow direction
  • Return: activates current element (like leftclick on current focused element)
  • Spacebar: activates current element (like leftclick on current focused element)
  • Shift+ Arrow: mark entries in direction
  • Ctrl + Spacebar: select entries with cherrypicking (hold Ctrl to navigate around and not lose the current selection; navigation without hold Ctrl removes selection)
  • F10: focus/ (on some systems also opens ) the menubar of the current application
  • Shift + F10: opens context menu (like rightclick on current focused element) - not every keyboard has an "menu key" thats why this is an alternative -> special laptops
  • ESC: stop current activity
  • F7: Toggles an Caret on / off -> Textcursor
  • F1: Open Help
  • F2: Rename / edit
  • F3: Search
  • Alt + F4: Close current application
  • Ctrl + Q: Close current application (in multi tap applications)
  • Ctrl + F4: Close current Tab (in multi tap applications)
  • Ctrl + W: Close current Tab (in multi tap applications)
  • F5: Refresh
  • F11: Fullscreen / Window Mode Toggle
  • Pos1: focus first element
  • End: focus last element
  • Picture up/ down: move all the screen up / down
  • Ctrl + Picture up/ down: go to next tab.
  • Ctrl + Shift + Picture up / down: go to previous tab
Oct 4 2019, 10:35 AM · Goal: Consistency, Plasma Accessibility
chempfling added a comment to T11074: Make KDE more Accessible for Everybody.
In T11074#203505, @KonqiDragon wrote:

I before wrote (T11220: Format option) about a simplified USB formating option, when you can will easily format the USB drive from File manager like in Windows, Linux Mint and Deepin.


I don't know if this could be a priority as part of the user experience simplification, but when I first tried the Linux, i couldn't understand how to format my flash drive, so it's important to me personally.

Oct 4 2019, 9:55 AM · Goal Setting 2019

Sep 19 2019

chempfling added a comment to T11520: Improve keyboard shortcuts, standardization, RSI preventability.

i m all in with this. Keyboard shortcuts an navigation is one of the most basic parts for accessibility and power users. I will do some investigation here and come back with hopefully something useful.

Sep 19 2019, 2:24 PM · Goal: Consistency, Plasma Accessibility

Sep 10 2019

chempfling added a comment to T11074: Make KDE more Accessible for Everybody.

Oh yea, we will for sure towards improving the accessibility. This is very needed at this point :).
if others here want to help and pick up some accessibility related tasks (what often goes hand in hand with usability, as it also means you can use the desktop with eyboard only), just assign to the accessibility mailing list and join us :).
We are happy for any helping hand and it would be coold to fom a real accessibility team.

Sep 10 2019, 3:40 PM · Goal Setting 2019

Aug 21 2019

chempfling added a comment to T11074: Make KDE more Accessible for Everybody.
Aug 21 2019, 2:16 PM · Goal Setting 2019

Aug 20 2019

chempfling added a comment to T11041: Make notifications accessible.

Awsome, Thanks!
@broulik could you take a look at? we should have now an own accessibility role for notifications what needs to be set.

Aug 20 2019, 9:53 AM · Plasma Accessibility
chempfling added a comment to T11041: Make notifications accessible.
Aug 20 2019, 9:50 AM · Plasma Accessibility

Aug 14 2019

chempfling renamed T11074: Make KDE more Accessible for Everybody from KDE Accessibility to Make KDE more Accessible for Everybody.
Aug 14 2019, 6:45 AM · Goal Setting 2019
chempfling added a comment to T11074: Make KDE more Accessible for Everybody.

Hey @chempfling, I think the title of your goal should be more explicit in what you want to achieve. May I suggest Make KDE more Accessible for Everybody?

Aug 14 2019, 6:45 AM · Goal Setting 2019

Aug 3 2019

chempfling moved T11074: Make KDE more Accessible for Everybody from ready for discussion to ready for voting on the Goal Setting 2019 board.

Ok, I think its ready :) and cross my finger for an A11y open minded community :)

Aug 3 2019, 3:58 PM · Goal Setting 2019

Jul 19 2019

chempfling added a comment to T11074: Make KDE more Accessible for Everybody.

One reason more to apply this Goal :) otherwise we do not fit out own HIG for large parts.

Jul 19 2019, 10:08 PM · Goal Setting 2019
chempfling added a comment to T11074: Make KDE more Accessible for Everybody.

If this goal is chosen, I'd like to make a suggestion:
For me as an application developer it would be beneficial to have detailed guidelines towards this goal:

  • what is considered the base standard?
  • what additional steps can be taken?
  • And most importantly: have some test plans for the different aspects of accessibility that I can check my application against.
Jul 19 2019, 10:07 PM · Goal Setting 2019

Jul 15 2019

chempfling added a comment to T11074: Make KDE more Accessible for Everybody.

Note that this goal is necessary for T11080 to succeed. It's quite common in a lot of companies/governments that they make suitable provisions for those with disabilities, where possible.

Jul 15 2019, 6:04 PM · Goal Setting 2019

Jun 18 2019

chempfling added a comment to T11074: Make KDE more Accessible for Everybody.

Also, should KDE review it's default key mapping ? I end up having to configure switch desktop up/down/left/right to crtl+alt+arrow. Are there many other default mapping that could be added ? also never found what was : alt+shift+backtab ...

I like using meta+arrow to title a window, but more commands should be added for true keyboard navigation. like move to desktop/screen, fullscreen, put focus on screen X...

Perhaps review defaults shortcuts, do pools to find what ppl change and try to define a complete set of shortcut commands that would please most ? Or provide different default key-profile ?

IMO a good default key mapping is a huge part of Accessibility. I think those should be intuitive and easy to remember.
agree here. many parts are not reachable using shortcuts at all.
try to access the notification area or networks using shortcuts..

Jun 18 2019, 11:55 PM · Goal Setting 2019
chempfling closed T11040: Add complete accessibility HIG as Resolved.

Landed.
Thanks!

Jun 18 2019, 8:08 AM · Plasma Accessibility

Jun 17 2019

chempfling added a comment to T11074: Make KDE more Accessible for Everybody.

Additional :), it would help to fit our new shiny HIG!
https://hig.kde.org/accessibility/index.html

Jun 17 2019, 2:32 PM · Goal Setting 2019