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Jun 20 2023

rutledge added a comment to T15624: Unplugged: Optimize KDE for Long-Term Offline Computing.

I agree: this is still a default assumption for me, that free software is intended to run on personal computers. The PC experience (which includes KDE) is not the same as the mobile-first/online/cloud experience. And yet there is room for mobile operating systems to be more PC-like too.

Jun 20 2023, 1:45 PM · Goal Setting 2022

Oct 8 2022

lydia moved T15627: Automate and systematize internal processes from Ready for voting to Selected on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Oct 8 2022, 9:15 AM · Goal Setting 2022
lydia moved T15676: Sustainable Software from Ready for voting to Selected on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Oct 8 2022, 9:15 AM · Goal Setting 2022
lydia moved T15611: KDE For All: Boosting Accessibility from Ready for voting to Selected on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Oct 8 2022, 9:14 AM · Goal Setting 2022

Sep 8 2022

vkhatab added a comment to T15627: Automate and systematize internal processes.

OK, that makes sense.

Sep 8 2022, 7:30 PM · Goal Setting 2022
ngraham added a comment to T15627: Automate and systematize internal processes.

Personally I agree with you, it's just that these goals have to be actionable at the community level. Professionalization involving more paid employees, a formal management chain, etc. are all things that basically have to be done by the KDE e.V.; there's little an individual member of the community can do about it. So by removing those elements, the goal became actionable. Given how popular those elements seemed to be, I still plan to pursue the professionalization idea from another angle.

Sep 8 2022, 7:22 PM · Goal Setting 2022
vkhatab added a comment to T15627: Automate and systematize internal processes.

I'd very much support this. It addresses a major problem I have with the proposal as it stands. (Happy to jump on a call to bounce off ideas if that'd help you.)

The other problem I see is the title: do we want to talk about "professionalizing KDE" for the next few years in our public communication? I'm not sure we're doing ourselves a favor by portraying the current situation as unprofessional. Maybe we can find a better framing for that? (I don't have a good idea yet.)

Sep 8 2022, 6:08 PM · Goal Setting 2022

Sep 4 2022

nicolasfella added a comment to T15797: Make Contributing to KDE Easier.

There was a very similar goal a few years ago in the first round of goals: T7116

Sep 4 2022, 8:29 PM · Goal Setting 2022
ericedlund added a comment to T15797: Make Contributing to KDE Easier.

Oh really 😂

Sep 4 2022, 6:34 PM · Goal Setting 2022
nicolasfella added a comment to T15797: Make Contributing to KDE Easier.

FWIW the time window to add new goals for this round has been closed for several weeks now, and goals are already being voted on, so this is too late to be considered.

Sep 4 2022, 6:27 PM · Goal Setting 2022
ericedlund updated the task description for T15797: Make Contributing to KDE Easier.
Sep 4 2022, 6:20 PM · Goal Setting 2022
ericedlund created T15797: Make Contributing to KDE Easier.
Sep 4 2022, 6:19 PM · Goal Setting 2022

Sep 1 2022

bcooksley changed the edit policy for T15633: Make Flatpak a first class delivery method for KDE Apps.
Sep 1 2022, 6:52 PM · Goal Setting 2022
bcooksley changed the edit policy for T15627: Automate and systematize internal processes.
Sep 1 2022, 6:52 PM · Goal Setting 2022
bcooksley changed the edit policy for T15624: Unplugged: Optimize KDE for Long-Term Offline Computing.
Sep 1 2022, 6:51 PM · Goal Setting 2022
bcooksley changed the edit policy for T15613: Human-Centered KDE.
Sep 1 2022, 6:51 PM · Goal Setting 2022
bcooksley changed the edit policy for T15611: KDE For All: Boosting Accessibility.
Sep 1 2022, 6:51 PM · Goal Setting 2022
bcooksley moved T15611: KDE For All: Boosting Accessibility from Selected to Ready for voting on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Sep 1 2022, 6:49 PM · Goal Setting 2022
bcooksley moved T15624: Unplugged: Optimize KDE for Long-Term Offline Computing from Selected to Ready for voting on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Sep 1 2022, 6:49 PM · Goal Setting 2022
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Sep 1 2022, 6:48 PM
bcooksley added a member for Goal Setting 2022: bcooksley.
Sep 1 2022, 6:47 PM
mreeves moved T15611: KDE For All: Boosting Accessibility from Ready for voting to Selected on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Sep 1 2022, 5:57 PM · Goal Setting 2022
wojnilowicz added a comment to T15647: Keep it light, make it lighter.

File indexing, as an example, is not a feature that you can simply remove or disable by default. It is something that users rightfully expect out of their operating system.

Sep 1 2022, 5:57 PM · Goal Setting 2022
mreeves moved T15624: Unplugged: Optimize KDE for Long-Term Offline Computing from Ready for voting to Selected on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Sep 1 2022, 5:55 PM · Goal Setting 2022
niccolove moved T15621: Documentation that stands out from Ready for voting to Not ready for voting on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Sep 1 2022, 10:48 AM · Goal Setting 2022
ognarb moved T15613: Human-Centered KDE from Selected to Ready for voting on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Sep 1 2022, 10:31 AM · Goal Setting 2022
ognarb moved T15621: Documentation that stands out from Selected to Ready for voting on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Sep 1 2022, 10:31 AM · Goal Setting 2022
ognarb moved T15627: Automate and systematize internal processes from Selected to Ready for voting on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Sep 1 2022, 10:31 AM · Goal Setting 2022
ognarb moved T15633: Make Flatpak a first class delivery method for KDE Apps from Selected to Ready for voting on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Sep 1 2022, 10:31 AM · Goal Setting 2022
ratajsk moved T15633: Make Flatpak a first class delivery method for KDE Apps from Ready for voting to Selected on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Sep 1 2022, 9:34 AM · Goal Setting 2022
ratajsk moved T15621: Documentation that stands out from Not ready for voting to Selected on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Sep 1 2022, 9:30 AM · Goal Setting 2022
ratajsk moved T15627: Automate and systematize internal processes from Ready for voting to Selected on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Sep 1 2022, 9:30 AM · Goal Setting 2022
ratajsk moved T15613: Human-Centered KDE from Ready for voting to Selected on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Sep 1 2022, 9:30 AM · Goal Setting 2022
esari moved T15624: Unplugged: Optimize KDE for Long-Term Offline Computing from Selected to Ready for voting on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Sep 1 2022, 8:30 AM · Goal Setting 2022
esari moved T15611: KDE For All: Boosting Accessibility from Selected to Ready for voting on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Sep 1 2022, 8:30 AM · Goal Setting 2022
esari moved T15624: Unplugged: Optimize KDE for Long-Term Offline Computing from Ready for voting to Selected on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Sep 1 2022, 8:30 AM · Goal Setting 2022
esari moved T15611: KDE For All: Boosting Accessibility from Ready for voting to Selected on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Sep 1 2022, 8:30 AM · Goal Setting 2022
ndavis updated the task description for T15611: KDE For All: Boosting Accessibility.
Sep 1 2022, 1:06 AM · Goal Setting 2022

Aug 31 2022

cschumac added a comment to T15676: Sustainable Software.

@jpetso Thanks for bringing up your thoughts. You mention a lot of valid points, and you are right that labs and certifications are some of the tools, but that they are certainly not enough to fully cover the topic of sustainable software. We do need to think beyond that. Currently the criteria for the Blue Angel are a great starting point, because they are concrete and actionable. But they also only cover one specific perspective. They are meant as first steps and what you mention about the effect of hardware and making this and other sustainability aspects visible to users is very much in scope of this goal. We don't want to prescribe how this is done, but use what research and community come up with. So while the plan focuses mostly on what we know how to do today, I would see it as a very natural evolution to add other ways to support the goal of sustainable software while we are going and learning.

Aug 31 2022, 6:26 PM · Goal Setting 2022
cignatov added a comment to T15624: Unplugged: Optimize KDE for Long-Term Offline Computing.
In T15624#279787, @adam wrote:

The voting starts in a week, so any changes that you intend to do should be done soon :)

Aug 31 2022, 4:40 PM · Goal Setting 2022
cignatov renamed T15624: Unplugged: Optimize KDE for Long-Term Offline Computing from Totally-Offline Productivity and Privacy PC/PDA Workflow to Unplugged: Optimize KDE for Long-Term Offline Computing.
Aug 31 2022, 4:38 PM · Goal Setting 2022
cignatov added a comment to T15624: Unplugged: Optimize KDE for Long-Term Offline Computing.

Hi @pgess, thanks for the comment. The book How We Became Posthuman by N. Katherine Hayles is probably the best book to fit the "plain English" requirement. The latest two books from Arthur and Marilouise Kroker, Exits to the Posthuman Future and Technologies of the New Real also explore the problem in depth, albeit in a more difficult prose.

Aug 31 2022, 4:36 PM · Goal Setting 2022
trufanov moved T15611: KDE For All: Boosting Accessibility from Selected to Ready for voting on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Aug 31 2022, 2:17 PM · Goal Setting 2022
trufanov moved T15627: Automate and systematize internal processes from Selected to Ready for voting on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Aug 31 2022, 2:17 PM · Goal Setting 2022
trufanov moved T15633: Make Flatpak a first class delivery method for KDE Apps from Selected to Ready for voting on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Aug 31 2022, 2:17 PM · Goal Setting 2022
trufanov moved T15613: Human-Centered KDE from Selected to Ready for voting on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Aug 31 2022, 2:17 PM · Goal Setting 2022
trufanov moved T15624: Unplugged: Optimize KDE for Long-Term Offline Computing from Selected to Ready for voting on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Aug 31 2022, 2:17 PM · Goal Setting 2022
trufanov moved T15676: Sustainable Software from Selected to Ready for voting on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Aug 31 2022, 2:17 PM · Goal Setting 2022
trufanov moved T15611: KDE For All: Boosting Accessibility from Ready for voting to Selected on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Aug 31 2022, 2:17 PM · Goal Setting 2022
trufanov moved T15633: Make Flatpak a first class delivery method for KDE Apps from Ready for voting to Selected on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Aug 31 2022, 2:17 PM · Goal Setting 2022
trufanov moved T15633: Make Flatpak a first class delivery method for KDE Apps from Selected to Ready for voting on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Aug 31 2022, 2:17 PM · Goal Setting 2022
trufanov moved T15611: KDE For All: Boosting Accessibility from Selected to Ready for voting on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Aug 31 2022, 2:16 PM · Goal Setting 2022
trufanov moved T15611: KDE For All: Boosting Accessibility from Ready for voting to Selected on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Aug 31 2022, 2:14 PM · Goal Setting 2022
trufanov moved T15633: Make Flatpak a first class delivery method for KDE Apps from Ready for voting to Selected on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Aug 31 2022, 2:14 PM · Goal Setting 2022
trufanov moved T15627: Automate and systematize internal processes from Ready for voting to Selected on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Aug 31 2022, 2:14 PM · Goal Setting 2022
trufanov moved T15613: Human-Centered KDE from Ready for voting to Selected on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Aug 31 2022, 2:14 PM · Goal Setting 2022
trufanov moved T15624: Unplugged: Optimize KDE for Long-Term Offline Computing from Ready for voting to Selected on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Aug 31 2022, 2:14 PM · Goal Setting 2022
trufanov moved T15676: Sustainable Software from Ready for voting to Selected on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Aug 31 2022, 2:14 PM · Goal Setting 2022
davidre moved T15627: Automate and systematize internal processes from Selected to Ready for voting on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Aug 31 2022, 7:09 AM · Goal Setting 2022
moustafine moved T15627: Automate and systematize internal processes from Ready for voting to Selected on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Aug 31 2022, 5:06 AM · Goal Setting 2022

Aug 30 2022

pgess added a comment to T15624: Unplugged: Optimize KDE for Long-Term Offline Computing.

Thanks for excellent articulating of the importance of this issue.

Aug 30 2022, 8:14 PM · Goal Setting 2022
hugopl moved T15627: Automate and systematize internal processes from Selected to Ready for voting on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Aug 30 2022, 6:24 PM · Goal Setting 2022
hugopl moved T15627: Automate and systematize internal processes from Ready for voting to Selected on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Aug 30 2022, 6:14 PM · Goal Setting 2022
jpetso added a comment to T15676: Sustainable Software.

I'm a little late for commenting but I'd like to add some thoughts.

Aug 30 2022, 5:29 PM · Goal Setting 2022
adam added a comment to T15621: Documentation that stands out.

I'm happy that the discussion has come back, but sadly the proposal has missed the deadline to be included in the voting.
Of course, feel free to continue using the ticket for discussing the ideas mentioned in the proposal.

Aug 30 2022, 3:47 PM · Goal Setting 2022
sanjay-swain added a comment to T15621: Documentation that stands out.

Centralization of documentation should definitely solve a lot of problem. About User documentation I do agree that every app are different but core KDE development tools or any kind of development documentation/tutorial should be centralized. But even in case of User documentation there should be proper guidelines and APIs to organize all the documentation from KDE applications.

Aug 30 2022, 3:11 PM · Goal Setting 2022
wrobelda renamed T15652: Create mechanisms that allow inter-project collaboration. from Create mechanisms that allows inter-project collaboration. to Create mechanisms that allow inter-project collaboration..
Aug 30 2022, 3:10 PM · Goal Setting 2022
tfella moved T15633: Make Flatpak a first class delivery method for KDE Apps from Selected to Ready for voting on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Aug 30 2022, 3:07 PM · Goal Setting 2022
ltoscano added a comment to T15621: Documentation that stands out.

I agree with Carl's feedback - just note that "add rst" or other formats is not so straightforward as it may seems.

Aug 30 2022, 2:39 PM · Goal Setting 2022
ognarb added a comment to T15621: Documentation that stands out.

My feedback on the state of documentation in KDE:

Aug 30 2022, 2:09 PM · Goal Setting 2022
loureiro moved T15633: Make Flatpak a first class delivery method for KDE Apps from Ready for voting to Selected on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Aug 30 2022, 1:27 PM · Goal Setting 2022
yurchor moved T15676: Sustainable Software from Selected to Ready for voting on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Aug 30 2022, 1:19 PM · Goal Setting 2022
yurchor moved T15613: Human-Centered KDE from Selected to Ready for voting on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Aug 30 2022, 1:19 PM · Goal Setting 2022
yurchor moved T15611: KDE For All: Boosting Accessibility from Selected to Ready for voting on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Aug 30 2022, 1:19 PM · Goal Setting 2022
yurchor moved T15627: Automate and systematize internal processes from Selected to Ready for voting on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Aug 30 2022, 1:19 PM · Goal Setting 2022
yurchor moved T15613: Human-Centered KDE from Ready for voting to Selected on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Aug 30 2022, 12:57 PM · Goal Setting 2022
yurchor moved T15676: Sustainable Software from Ready for voting to Selected on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Aug 30 2022, 12:54 PM · Goal Setting 2022
yurchor moved T15611: KDE For All: Boosting Accessibility from Ready for voting to Selected on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Aug 30 2022, 12:53 PM · Goal Setting 2022
yurchor moved T15627: Automate and systematize internal processes from Ready for voting to Selected on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Aug 30 2022, 12:53 PM · Goal Setting 2022
Nowshed added a comment to T15621: Documentation that stands out.

I am adding some additional steps that I understood from the feedback. Not being a software developer is a huge disadvantage for me, but I wanted to start the discussion.

Aug 30 2022, 12:46 PM · Goal Setting 2022
Nowshed updated the task description for T15621: Documentation that stands out.
Aug 30 2022, 12:33 PM · Goal Setting 2022
adam moved T15613: Human-Centered KDE from Not ready for voting to Ready for voting on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Aug 30 2022, 11:45 AM · Goal Setting 2022

Aug 29 2022

ltoscano added a comment to T15621: Documentation that stands out.

As other users have mentioned, the solved part is not actually solved. The main git based documentation is kind of stalled.

Aug 29 2022, 5:21 PM · Goal Setting 2022
Nowshed added a comment to T15621: Documentation that stands out.

As other users have mentioned, the solved part is not actually solved. The main git based documentation is kind of stalled.

Aug 29 2022, 4:33 PM · Goal Setting 2022
Nowshed added a comment to T15621: Documentation that stands out.

I was extremely busy with my professional life. Let me see what I can do now.

Aug 29 2022, 4:01 PM · Goal Setting 2022
cschumac added a comment to T15676: Sustainable Software.

Thanks @joseph, I added a summary at the beginning of the proposal.

Aug 29 2022, 1:03 PM · Goal Setting 2022
cschumac updated the task description for T15676: Sustainable Software.
Aug 29 2022, 1:02 PM · Goal Setting 2022
niccolove claimed T15613: Human-Centered KDE.
Aug 29 2022, 10:55 AM · Goal Setting 2022
niccolove added a comment to T15613: Human-Centered KDE.

I think this is a very valid goal, and I think it totally deserves to be voted. I'm willing to focus on this if it gets selected, so I'll step in to make sure it gets its chance. If Janet wants to come back to the community and lead this goal in the future I'll be happy to shift this to her anytime.

Aug 29 2022, 10:54 AM · Goal Setting 2022

Aug 28 2022

ws added a comment to T15643: Support for Gamepad-input.

Yeah, I agree with that. You can close this goal, or whatever is the proper procedure.

Aug 28 2022, 5:56 PM · Goal Setting 2022

Aug 27 2022

ngraham renamed T15627: Automate and systematize internal processes from Make our internal processes more automatic and more team-based to Automate and systematize internal processes.
Aug 27 2022, 9:16 PM · Goal Setting 2022
ngraham added a comment to T15621: Documentation that stands out.

It's a shame, this is an important and actionable goal proposal. Is anyone interested in taking it over? Or is @Nowshed still around?

Aug 27 2022, 2:22 PM · Goal Setting 2022
adam added a comment to T15647: Keep it light, make it lighter.

As the author did not act on the comments here, I will not move this proposal to the voting stage.

Aug 27 2022, 12:29 PM · Goal Setting 2022
adam added a comment to T15621: Documentation that stands out.

As the author did not act on the comments here, I will not move this proposal to the voting stage.

Aug 27 2022, 12:26 PM · Goal Setting 2022
adam moved T15627: Automate and systematize internal processes from Not ready for voting to Ready for voting on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Aug 27 2022, 12:24 PM · Goal Setting 2022
adam moved T15633: Make Flatpak a first class delivery method for KDE Apps from Not ready for voting to Ready for voting on the Goal Setting 2022 board.
Aug 27 2022, 12:24 PM · Goal Setting 2022
adam added a comment to T15643: Support for Gamepad-input.

@ws I agree that this could be part of the accessibility Goal proposal, based on this discussion I propose to not move this to the voting stage. Of course, feel free to submit your ideas in the other proposal!

Aug 27 2022, 12:19 PM · Goal Setting 2022
adam added a comment to T15652: Create mechanisms that allow inter-project collaboration..

Thanks @cwunder, based on your response, I will not move the Goal proposal to the voting stage, but you're very welcome to talk to our Promo team to discuss the overall ideas of visible collaboration between the two projects.

Aug 27 2022, 12:15 PM · Goal Setting 2022

Aug 26 2022

ognarb renamed T15611: KDE For All: Boosting Accessibility from KDE For All: Boosting Accessibility for Plasma and Apps to KDE For All: Boosting Accessibility.
Aug 26 2022, 6:03 PM · Goal Setting 2022

Aug 25 2022

nicolasfella added a comment to T15627: Automate and systematize internal processes.

Move clang-format from a git hookscript to pre-commit CI so that merge requests will show a CI failure when badly-formatted changes exist, and people can see this in a nice UI and fix them

Aug 25 2022, 8:56 PM · Goal Setting 2022