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abetts added a comment to M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.

Could you maybe add a rough mockup of this suggestion? Just for more clarity. Also, we discussed some time ago that it would be ok for the "install" from file to be in Discover and that GHNS would "also" be in discover. What do you think? Should we do that or keep "install from file" in the same window where the themes are?

Wed, Nov 22, 6:25 PM · KDE Developers, VDG
andreaska added a comment to M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.

Love it.

Wed, Nov 22, 6:20 PM · KDE Developers, VDG

Fri, Nov 3

mart added a comment to M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.

as part of the work of other kcms which have a form layout, a layout component in kirigami which would be used for it https://phabricator.kde.org/D8641

Fri, Nov 3, 3:20 PM · KDE Developers, VDG

Wed, Nov 1

abetts added a comment to M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.

Ok, the second stage of this redesign might be a little easier, it is aligning labels, shrinking comboboxes, and others to the center. Putting labels or "titles" on the 1st third of the space while the rest of the elements are on the 2/3 to the right. I will add a mockup to explain this.

Wed, Nov 1, 4:21 PM · KDE Developers, VDG

Tue, Oct 31

abetts added a comment to M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.

let's do it!

Tue, Oct 31, 8:08 PM · KDE Developers, VDG
mart added a comment to M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.

ok, so let's make it final the "pure grid" one wit the version of the flexible spaces around the grid view.
we can then start with a mixed one and see how it works there

Tue, Oct 31, 8:01 PM · KDE Developers, VDG
abetts added a comment to M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.

Thank you for your comments. @mart I have some mockups where this is the case and there is a mix of edge to edge content with other controls. I didn't think it looked bad honestly but feels a bit out of place. I can post something on it later tonight.

Tue, Oct 31, 5:03 PM · KDE Developers, VDG
ngraham added a comment to M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.

I have to say I'm not a huge fan of the screenshots posted at the top of the thread--the proposed total visual redesign. It seems like we would be throwing out a lot of work and all the embedded lessons learned and bugfixes accumulated over the years, and it looks like... well... it looks like Windows 10. :-( This modern depth-less totally flat interface trend is really not well suited for the desktop IMHO. It will look "stale" in a few years and we will be yet again on the treadmill of visual redesigns. My vote is for incremental improvement on what we've already got, which is really nice and has a timeless quality to it, like it's got more immunity to the UI fashions of the day.

Tue, Oct 31, 4:19 PM · KDE Developers, VDG
mart added a comment to M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.

well, there are two mutually exclusive designs at the moment which are being moved forward which should be chosen from, basically the last couple of screenshots and like last januz comment.
personally, i think my latest screenshot is the "easiest" to implement, but the other option (which i still don't know how to solve a bunch of problems) looks more modern

Tue, Oct 31, 4:09 PM · KDE Developers, VDG
ngraham added a comment to M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.

That's really nice, @mart.

Tue, Oct 31, 4:06 PM · KDE Developers, VDG
abetts added a comment to M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.

I love it! Shall we move to the next phase?

Tue, Oct 31, 3:55 PM · KDE Developers, VDG
mart added a comment to M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.

actual implementation of the proposal with flexible lateral space

Tue, Oct 31, 3:46 PM · KDE Developers, VDG
januz updated subscribers of M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.

The grid with margins is the best IMO. It's the best use of screen space (and it looks better than the others) . I totally agree with the frame-in-frame problem (I wish dolphin looked more like your mockup!), but I think that adding too many lines can also end up adding visual noise.

Tue, Oct 31, 1:07 AM · KDE Developers, VDG

Mon, Oct 30

mart added a comment to M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.

here an example of the view resized in two possible size, one which the thumbnail size matches exactly the available space for the number of columns, and another one that doesn't

Mon, Oct 30, 4:33 PM · KDE Developers, VDG
mart added a comment to M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.

hmm, my attention is pretty much taken by the gap there and the step the two rows of buttons do...
perhaps if the row of buttons is still aligned with the others it would look better...
and if the margin around the view is not fixed, but whatever to make the white edges in the view fixed, it could have its why...

Mon, Oct 30, 4:16 PM · KDE Developers, VDG
subdiff added a comment to M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.

The Dolphin mockup looks good. But the KCM one looks somewhat confusing. Elements belonging to each other are not visually related anymore (the list view and the rest of the KCM). Maybe it's just because of the sidebar being white as well. But there is also the problem that not all KCMs have a list view, and then their design would differ greatly from the ones with a list view.

Mon, Oct 30, 3:30 PM · KDE Developers, VDG
mart added a comment to M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.

so, to explain the idea i had to reduce visual noise and the " frame in frame" effect, i did a quick and dirty edit in gimp of the window:


Mon, Oct 30, 1:17 PM · KDE Developers, VDG

Fri, Oct 27

leinir added an inline comment to M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.
Fri, Oct 27, 4:51 PM · KDE Developers, VDG

Thu, Oct 26

mart added a comment to M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.

latest version of a grid based one

Thu, Oct 26, 4:22 PM · KDE Developers, VDG
mart added an inline comment to M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.
Thu, Oct 26, 3:35 PM · KDE Developers, VDG
abetts added an inline comment to M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.

So for my own understanding I'm wrapping up (correct me if I'm wrong):

  1. Normally list views have a background (which is FCFCFC without any transparency or soft shadows at the borders as in the mockups) in Breeze.
  2. Current qqc scrollview though doesn't have this.
  3. So the question is if we should just ignore this background in qqc scrollviews or if there needs to be a version of scrollview with background so that it is like in the mockups and not different from other components.
Thu, Oct 26, 2:21 PM · KDE Developers, VDG
abetts updated images of M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.
Thu, Oct 26, 2:58 AM · KDE Developers, VDG
abetts updated images of M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.
Thu, Oct 26, 2:54 AM · KDE Developers, VDG
abetts added a comment to M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.
Thu, Oct 26, 2:45 AM · KDE Developers, VDG
januz added a comment to M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.

Here's a mockup I made based on @mart 's:

Thu, Oct 26, 1:30 AM · KDE Developers, VDG

Wed, Oct 25

mart added a comment to M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.

Are we opposed to using toggles like these? I have hear diverging opinions.

as far i remember the decision back in the day was to use those only on mobile, no idea if the idea may be reexamined now

Wed, Oct 25, 2:54 PM · KDE Developers, VDG
abetts added an inline comment to M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.

any idea how to implement the mouse cursor selection size?

Wed, Oct 25, 2:20 PM · KDE Developers, VDG
mart added a comment to M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.

current status:

Wed, Oct 25, 1:03 PM · KDE Developers, VDG
mart added a comment to M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.

i was thinking about an icon, then clicking on it opens a small overlay popup with the choices, which is not super pretty, but ok

Wed, Oct 25, 8:09 AM · KDE Developers, VDG
mart added a comment to M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.

any idea how to implement the mouse cursor selection size?

Wed, Oct 25, 8:08 AM · KDE Developers, VDG
mart added a comment to M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.

I'll add a small shadow, hopefully will be easy to dynamically disable it when running on the software renderer

Wed, Oct 25, 8:04 AM · KDE Developers, VDG
abetts added a comment to M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.

blur: another thing i would like to avoid if possible, as we need all this stuff to work correctly if possible also on very low-end hardware where we should render in software mode

Wed, Oct 25, 3:35 AM · KDE Developers, VDG

Tue, Oct 24

subdiff added an inline comment to M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.
Tue, Oct 24, 5:26 PM · KDE Developers, VDG
abetts added a comment to M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.

I hope it wasn't too difficult and I am already seeing an easier interaction with the themes. Even at this early stage.

Tue, Oct 24, 4:39 PM · KDE Developers, VDG
mart added a comment to M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.

early version of the cursor kcm

Tue, Oct 24, 4:34 PM · KDE Developers, VDG
mart added an inline comment to M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.
Tue, Oct 24, 3:29 PM · KDE Developers, VDG
mart added an inline comment to M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.
Tue, Oct 24, 3:26 PM · KDE Developers, VDG
mart added an inline comment to M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.
Tue, Oct 24, 3:24 PM · KDE Developers, VDG
abetts added an inline comment to M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.

You might be able to answer those same questions by going to this

Tue, Oct 24, 2:16 PM · KDE Developers, VDG
mart added an inline comment to M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.
Tue, Oct 24, 12:52 PM · KDE Developers, VDG

Oct 23 2017

abetts added a comment to M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.

looks like many kcms would have a similar structure of thumbnail preview grid... maybe we can componentize that?

Oct 23 2017, 3:42 PM · KDE Developers, VDG
mart added a comment to M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.

looks like many kcms would have a similar structure of thumbnail preview grid... maybe we can componentize that?

Oct 23 2017, 9:21 AM · KDE Developers, VDG
davidedmundson added a comment to M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.

Oh, wow! I'm genuinely really impressed.

Oct 23 2017, 8:31 AM · KDE Developers, VDG
abetts updated the image names of M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.
Oct 23 2017, 5:25 AM · KDE Developers, VDG
abetts updated images of M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.
Oct 23 2017, 5:07 AM · KDE Developers, VDG
abetts created M112: System Settings Alpha Graphic Redesign.
Oct 23 2017, 4:55 AM · KDE Developers, VDG

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