@johnny: I tested it by using it, nothing has been broken, working fine on my side.

Changes are ok.
I would still need to see the process test table where you will document how you do the tests to be sure that you are not breaking any of the other memory activity.

Working like a charm.
Once you will have made it tested by your "test group" as stated in the timeline it will certainly be ready.
Nice and clean job!

Only a convention question here to decide at this beginning of coding.

Hi,
Great so far. What do you want to be confirmed ? Others quantities
representations ?

Consise efficient great goal ;)

Make sens, maybe we can use the introduction later on (outside of gsoc) to
point to activities that teache tables?

Lets wait the moment to have memory multiplication activity built before to define this one description.
Seeing how the multiplication works will help us greatly to give a sens to this one, division is the inverse of multiplication.

Here too we need to agree on some more "pedagogical" goals. Could you propose some deepak? I would review them.
You can have a look to what I propose in the addition and substraction goal I mentionned.
Keep in mind that until 5 years old (included) we do not work with numbers greather than 10.
1 star 0-3
2 stars 0-5
3 stars 0-10
Can seem slow for an adult, is really not, sens has to be buit.

I still have doubts about this one.
The way we present it, we assume tables are learned in one time.
I really would prefer to have sub levels for each table.
Let say:

Sure there is a typo. Agree with you for the shorter description version.

Hi,
I think it would be a good idea. This would allow precise learning goals.
What do you think Timothée?

Yes, we need to find multipledatasets that make sens.
Yesterday when I reviewed the descriptions I had the feeling that it was a
quick copy/paste job done in hurry because we asked to have descriptions! I
did not realise that it was the proposal content. My fault I should have
checked that. But we need some more communication to start with
multipledataset that will be useful from the start. We are not doing
descriptions because we have to do them, we are doing the description to
define what we will do :)

Exactly, that would make it a really reach activity who can be used
through the whole preschool years!

Le dim. 10 mai 2020 à 20:21, Timothée Giet <noreply@phabricator.kde.org> a
écrit :

Here were are the levels details!!!

What means :
Goal: Find cards with equivalent quantities until 11.
Star 1 is 3 years old.
At this age they are supposed to quantify a maximum of 3.

We need to add something here to be able tot choose the quantity representation. Dots, numbers, dices etc etc
I would really build 8 multiple dataset as in pre school we spend a full year just working from 1 to 3, then a second year just from 3 to 5 so we need a selection level able to be much finer than what is now in the description.

Level: Adding questions at different levels with four operators to be computed in 4 steps.

Hi,
This is not precise enough for me. Please describe what small medium and large grid are.
It could be as simple as writing (4*4) if the small grid is 4 times 4.
I think we should use the word "the" and not "an"
"Build the identical"
Regards,

Sure otherwise it will be difficult to comment, cooperate.

Hi,
I haven't been precise enough, but could you for each task add the description of what you intend to do?
I can the have a first review.
Regards,

Hi,
Can you please create one task per subtask? It will be easier to discuss the different data that we will create and easier to manage.
Thanks,

Well done! Can you put your proposal link to the description please? It will this way be easily found.

Hi,
Can you add the link to your proposal to the description please?
Thanks

Just tested. It is ok for me now concerning the multipledataset part.

Comment to be detailed thanks.

There is a problem in the multipledataset difficulty progression.
We have twice "Items are placed on single line with number of items up to 6" in a row, and it jumps directly to 16 items.
I would prefer to have the second multipledataset set to ""Items are placed on single line with number of items up to 8"
or
"Items are placed on multiple lines with number of items up to 8" if it does not fit.

Hi,
I can not remember telling that objectives should be the same? Obviously
the objectives have to match the goals to be be achieved. It must be a
misanderstanding.
Emmanuel

Ok for me.

Hi,
It would be good to have a display mode with reduced model.
This is to avoid children in single line putting element one by one just because they are one under each other.

I do not understand the multipledata variable you use.

There are mistakes in the multipledataset option text, see my online comments.

In D27583#625178, @jjazeix wrote:

In D27583#625177, @dekumar wrote:

In D27583#624933, @jjazeix wrote:

I'm wondering if we should not have the image names in the dataset too so later we can choose which images to display

Can you elaborate a bit more about it? Are you talking about the images in mosaic.js file?

Yes, should we allow the possibility to the creator of the dataset to specify which images he wants? May be useful later for teachers or customisation. May be too much too.
@timotheegiet @echarruau does it make sense?

Differential has been commited. Task can be closed.

Answered question about hiding sublevels when guessing the weight.

Hi,
Could you add a delay between the moment pupil answers correctly and the moment the activity goes to the next sublevel.
This is to let pupil the time to realise that he has the good answer and see why.
You should use the end signal of the score animation to wait for thel the next sublevel to be loaded.
Thanks.

And maybe also, grey-out the filtered datasets to prevent them from being selected, and display a notification that a Difficulty filter is active (but that point is optional/to discuss).

Test not correct, see comment.

Hi,
It gives feedback when you make an error and give some correct answers.
This is what we are aiming here.

Same for me, this is enough at the moment. If we need to add tutorials at a point we will do it outside the sok.

To complete Johnny's comments.
We should only have the green color in the input are once the child clicked ok. Otherwise they are clever enough to try all the possibilities and be successful even without having a clue how to enumerate :)
After discussion with Johnny we decided that there is no additional pedagogical value of having 5 groups instead of 4. Since it is creating overlapping can you please remove the 5th group and the grid you implemented.
For me once this will be implemented it will be ready. Good job!

Hi,
I updated the description. Should be good now. Good luck.

Hi,
For me everything is ok now. I did not play all the levels, I will do it when I have time but randomly tested all the multipledata and it works as expected.

Just a question for my own understanding.

Code is ok for me.
Several point on usability:

• when having 5 categories of fruits the 5th category overlaps the menu bar. I can see two solutions: using a grid to have the 5th category placed top right of the 1st one or restrict the activity to 4 categories.
• It would be useful to fire the ok button using the return key when entering numbers with keyboards.
• Pupils that are using this activity are young and will not know about backspace key, we need to restrict the input length to 1 digit when the answer is 1 digit long.

Otherwise no problem on my side, well done.

@johnny

@echarruau we still have visual feedback (green color on the box) when we put a correct answer. Shouldn't we update it to be an hint instead (to not remove the feature but this way, the child can know which one is good or wrong)?

The problem if we keep the hint is that pupils will try all the numbers on the keyboard, then press on ok when it will be green. If we give them some hints they will use them :)
I would remove it completely. Hope I understood well your question.

Tested for "up to 5", works wonderful so far, I will test the rest tomorrow.
We are missing an objectif, I put it in the code as comment.

Code change is good for me. Test shows that it is working properly. Ok button has been well implemented and mulipledataset well added. Great job.
We need just to add an additional feature compare to the initial project.
You need to add multiple question for each sublevel.
At the moment there is only one answer to give to validate a sublevel. We need at least 5 questions per sublevel and the number of questions for each sublevel must be configurable in the qml file.
You need for that to be able to generate randomize questions according to numberOfItemMax.