In T15183#270268, @domson wrote:

In T15183#270266, @dcahal wrote:

In T15183#270127, @domson wrote:

the matrix room obviously demands invitation.
NeoChat crashes regularly and throws server errors about exceeded user limits, as already mentioned above. I'll investigate in that as soon as I have more time.

You can easily connect to Matrix with our embedded client.

https://webchat.kde.org/

Surely this is much easier to do than creating new Phabricator projects with restricted access.

you got me wrong. phabricator ROOMs allow fine grained access control on the user base already existing on phabricator. webchat is super slow on my side, for what benefit? To read a ton thick thread of non-task-related chattery.

In T15183#270077, @domson wrote:

@paulb

We had this problem for the last Gear video: too much bikeshedding not enough video making. It is time to show samples of what you mean in the promovideo room

Didnt you remove yourself from the promovideo room because you prefered matrix back then?
I'd call it "intellectual offensiveness".
https://phabricator.kde.org/conpherence/36/

Is there a new promovideo room? or is it the closed matrix room?

I took another look at how M$ or 🍏 markets updates, and made the conclusion that it's probably ok to include even fewer specifics.
and here's an idea for a storyboard:

I'll dump ideas here for interesting visuals:

• keep the breeze, ocean keywords/feeling
• Building a UI -2d this , or 3d
• A live recording of someone using Plasma (@grapejuice?) then transitioning to a minimalistic 3d space where the UI is shown on a screen-like surface (a mix of this and this)
• I really like the Montserrat font ( and would be consistent with the last video)

(While I'm really into fancy 3d lighting and surfaces, of course I'd also love something new and original from new people and I'm aware that we probably don't have the resources rn for 3d stuff)

you've already requested this and got an answer

This list may be useful later

In T14753#263607, @domson wrote:

the matrix room mentioned above could not be found either. Plus phabricator rooms are of no interest as it seems.

In T14753#263588, @domson wrote:

In T14753#263490, @NayamAmarshe wrote:

Demo Clip 2

I am a bit sceptical about imitating windows ads. Still I recommend to use blender to render the camera movement with a little motion blur.
But I like the idea of syncing every click-drag'n'drop with the music beat/off-beat.

In T14753#263589, @domson wrote:

In T14753#263404, @aronkvh wrote:

the wallpaper file is at https://collaborate.kde.org/f/96750
(some small things were fixed in post)

Now I have access, but file still not be found...

really interesting. it's immersive and informative as well
I'd personally prefer less zoom tough

I'm not sure,but you can use your :matrix or any other acc as well

In T14753#263423, @NayamAmarshe wrote:

In T14753#263422, @paulb wrote:

We should probably be discussing this kind of thing in the Matrix room, no?

Is there a telegram group?

@domson you can create a sysadmin request and
someone will need to comfirm it
and you'll have acces then

In T14753#263406, @domson wrote:

In T14753#263404, @aronkvh wrote:

the wallpaper file is at https://collaborate.kde.org/f/96750
(some small things were fixed in post)

I get "File could not be found"

the wallpaper file is at https://collaborate.kde.org/f/96750
(some small things were fixed in post)

In T14753#263401, @domson wrote:

@aronkvh @paulb the mythological figure of the dragon (especially in china) symbolizes the hardly predictable forces of natural phenomena in many cultures. Today we call it Tensors, with which we try to simulate complex systems. The background design reminds me of this approach describing reality as multilinear geometry (geological, metereological models etc). It's about "taming the dragon"

@NayamAmarshe could you upload the 'we made history' animation to Share pls?
I'd like to try a couple things.

In T14753#263395, @paulb wrote:

I meant to say "I don't think they liked it". For the background, we have @aronkvh 's wallpaper. As we have the blends also, we can leave the ocean-like grid (which, if I remember right, Aron himself suggested doing) and we have an elegant understated backdrop.

I like the ideas, but I really think we shouldn't try to be funny /retro/synthwave or rock music /90's commercial parody- for the release video; and save cute dragons and humour and absurdity and the action movie style for the birthday video, for fans who understand it more and appreciate it more

In T14753#263369, @Guilhermems wrote:

Anyway, I was playing with Blender and I made this small video based on the storyboard Aron posted. It just shows a title, a spinning gear and at the end, it grows to transition to whatever would come next. I don't know much of Blender so I can't really contribute to the making of the video itself but I hope this helps visualize and inspire what kind of transitions/animation style would work best:

In T14753#263364, @domson wrote:

@paulb yeah the horror movie guy sure... funny. but Blue or Yellow are of course on a different page. Going down the ukulele-happy-clapping-road focusing on "Looks" is probably not the right target audience.

Do you produce the video on Windows with After Effects? If you find an efficient way to perform those Kurzgesagt-Style-transitions on KDE please tell us. Maybe Blender? Until 14th october. But maybe it just consumes too much time to animate all this. What about recording real-world video old school? And combine it with 4K screenrecordings projected into 3D space in blender to follow the zoom focus with the virtual camera? Add bezier curves to timeline, some motion blur effect.

I really recommend to show out-of-the-box functionality/usability and also advanced setups (hacker movie poser style on 3 screens, or on a OpenPandora/Pyra, Smartphone, Steam Deck) which can catch the potential user (students, young craftswomen and -men and academics, gamers). Maybe the storyboard should guide through a regular usage day, and also occasions where powerful/individual configurations are applied on the fly, video footage of real people holding the device in their hands and use it. But more abstract concepts like the multiscreen/virtual desktop/activities can be demonstrated with projected screenrecordings in blender 3D space.

The videos you linked above are all a bit superficial and hardly show any practical benefit of the presented GUI. Probably users would think: "Another GUI that only wants to look better." Thats how some marketing gurus make content for "the masses" like: "yeah present them some new Icons and switch from sharp corners back to round corners." or: "yay, lets pay some botnets in pakistan to leave positive comments." IMHO KDE/Linux is more the practical type of thing. Most features speak for themselves, are intuitive and dont need much additional mumbojumbo on top of the visual demonstration.

Another nice reference with smooth animations but no fancy physical 3d

In T14753#263343, @domson wrote:

In T14753#263342, @NayamAmarshe wrote:

I think the sounds are a bit too retro and have a slower tempo than what I would imagine using for a product showcase. I have produced some music too: Lo-Fi, Dark-Synth and I can certainly create a track for the video but It'd take a lot time and it's better to just use something funky, upbeat from FMA or other sites imho and focus more on the video production once the music is selected.

Yeah I know lots of talented musicians out there can produce music (probably in time), but my point was actually to target the uniqueness factor. IMHO its a modern synthpop interpretation of retro, and there are several tracks with faster tempo also. I'll try to cut a prototype-video today, to show how/if it can work.
Do you collect the KDE1-5 (+Steamdeck!!) video footage on a Repo already?

In T14753#263265, @NayamAmarshe wrote:

Here's a short demo video I made, we can include clips like these

Thanks for the feedback @paulb!
Where can I play with those VMs?

I don't know if anyone has news about this rn, but in the meantime, here's my first take on a storyboard (which we should really have soon)

I remembered I made some images a while ago related to this:

In T14628#262647, @allyson wrote:

Are there any updates here?

In T14752#261903, @aniqakhokhar wrote:

Sure. I have made this presentation{F9988369}, we can see which ideas are beneficial for the community too.

If you don't mind Aniqa, I'd suggest some visual changes to the presentation draft.

In T14753#261024, @aronkvh wrote:

Here are some of my ideas:
Physical effects, glass.
Ui elements building while morphing to the improved Ocean style.
Sunlight, water/caustics lighting - as in ocean

Also: look will be very much dictated by the winner wallpaper (any news about that, @niccolove ?), so it may be premature to think of looks right now.

Here are some of my ideas:
Physical effects, glass.
Ui elements building while morphing to the improved Ocean style.
Sunlight, water/caustics lighting - as in ocean

also: What do you think about designing and printing letters with Anniversary Edition Neon Live USBs to send to some of the bigger tech news outlets?
An email may get lost in the thousands they receive daily, but a well-designed and signed letter with software to test could get a bit more attention

A demo would be great for a live event ( by someone with a fast but not W11 supported PC, internet great mic and 'easy to understand' accent)
an example:
-booting up plasma- a word about floss
-customizing panel layout, adaptive transparency, adding applets and demonstrating ghns
-opening dolphin and a multimedia file
-receiving a call - a word about KDE connect
-installing ex. Spotify or steam using Discover + android apps (if that will happen)
-searches for 'global theme with KRunner' and changes the whole look in a click
That could be recorded and shared as a video on social media