Improve Kile icon with LaTeX font
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Authored by trickyricky26 on Sun, Dec 2, 3:04 PM.

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Improve the Kile icon by using the default LaTeX font "Latin Modern Roman" for the symbol. Make shadow more consistent with gradient.

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trickyricky26 created this revision.Sun, Dec 2, 3:04 PM
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Looks great to me! Let's make sure the Kile folks agree. :)

This revision is now accepted and ready to land.Sun, Dec 2, 6:34 PM
ndavis added a subscriber: ndavis.Sun, Dec 2, 7:24 PM

The original design was more consistent with the usual style for text characters used in Breeze icons, but I think using actual LaTeX fonts in this context works just as well or better for LaTeX users.

+1

mludwig added a subscriber: mludwig.Mon, Dec 3, 9:47 AM

Hey, thanks for working on this.

I don't mind the change in font style.

However, do you think it's possible to add "Kile" somewhere onto the icon as well, preferably quite largely. With this icon, I always find it hard to locate Kile in the task manager.

Thats rather difficult. Adding it to the proposed design looks quite cramped:

The only good way to fit "Kile" into that shape is vertical, which looks weird and is not very legible:

A more elegant way would be just the letter K:


But I think at that point the meaning is less obvious than the root sign imo

I would not recommend embedding the app name into the icon itself. The text isn't localizable, the icon would become really cramped, and in any event it would look weird since no other app does this.

For those reasons, our HIG specifically recommends against this: https://hig.kde.org/style/icon.html?highlight=icons#general-guidelines

I would not recommend embedding the app name into the icon itself. The text isn't localizable, the icon would become really cramped, and in any event it would look weird since no other app does this.

For those reasons, our HIG specifically recommends against this: https://hig.kde.org/style/icon.html?highlight=icons#general-guidelines

Well, it's not really arbitrary text, but the name of the application, so I it wouldn't be localized much. Besides, Kile's official icons have contained the character "K" or the string "Kile" for over 15 years.

Off the top of my head, another example of such an icon design is the one of Evince, which contains a stylized letter 'e' - I know it's from the competition ;)

Or to some extent, the icon of kcharselect, which I really like.

The biggest issue that I have with the square root icon is that it doesn't symbolize enough that it's the icon of an application. To me, it just looks like the application of a file type. Some dynamic element is missing, like a pencil, for example, to indicate that it's an application for editing such files.

Yeah, a stylized "K" on its own might work.

What if instead of using 'a' as a variable in the equation, we used 'k'?

trickyricky26 added a comment.EditedWed, Dec 5, 3:30 PM

With a small "k" in the equation:

With a capital "K":

What do you think?

ndavis added a comment.Thu, Dec 6, 8:07 PM

With a small "k" in the equation:

With a capital "K":

What do you think?

Can you show it at 100% size? You should generally show icons at 100% size so that they can be seen the way the user will see them.

The proposed icons in my dock:

The biggest issue that I have with the square root icon is that it doesn't symbolize enough that it's the icon of an application. To me, it just looks like the application of a file type. Some dynamic element is missing, like a pencil, for example, to indicate that it's an application for editing such files.

I have experimented with adding a black pen to the icon:


Do you think this looks more like an application? It could be added to all of the proposed designs.

ndavis added a comment.EditedSat, Dec 8, 12:06 AM

The proposed icons in my dock:

The biggest issue that I have with the square root icon is that it doesn't symbolize enough that it's the icon of an application. To me, it just looks like the application of a file type. Some dynamic element is missing, like a pencil, for example, to indicate that it's an application for editing such files.

I have experimented with adding a black pen to the icon:


Do you think this looks more like an application? It could be added to all of the proposed designs.

The uppercase 'K' is crisper at 100% size, so I think that's better than the lowercase 'k'. The lowercase 'a' still looks the best because of the empty space around it.

The idea with the pen is interesting, but there needs to be something to fill up that empty space.

I have made the root a and root capital K design with the pen added:

At 100% scaling:

I think the root "K" is clearer, but looks a bit more cramped.

  • Use the root a design with a pen
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  • Use a silver pen design to improve contrast
trickyricky26 edited the test plan for this revision. (Show Details)Fri, Dec 14, 8:24 PM

I have made another design based on @ndavis feedback:


This uses the root a design from the Cantor icon which makes it pixel perfect and more consistent. Also, the pen is a bigger to be more recognizable at 100% scaling (this change can be made to the LaTeX font design as well).

For me is these root sign nondescript. When the orig old blue symbol is not desired, how about to freshen it up? How? I don't know.
Perhaps Black & White just as all your other offers on these rectangular sheet of paper?
Furthermore exist these splash-screen. So maybe in yellow on these fuzzy gray paper?