Update features highlight page on krita.org
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We should update features highlights https://krita.org/en/features/highlights/

There are a number of ideas that were given in a recent IRC meeting. This page could use a refresh since it was made in the Krita 2.9 days.

tokiedian created this task.Jul 2 2016, 1:41 AM
tokiedian added a comment.EditedJul 4 2016, 3:04 PM

My suggestion:

Big Features

  • Intuitive and highly customizable User Interface (including popup palette)
  • Rich brush engines and Advanced brush stabilizers
  • Animation with Timelines of multiple layers
  • Mirroring, Tiling and Mandala (including Wrap Around Mode)
  • Various Drawing Assistants
  • Non-destructive Editing (including Layer masks and Soft proofing)

Small Features

  • Layer management
  • Filters
  • Transform Tools
  • Selections
  • Full color management over RGB, CMYK, etc with Little CMS
  • HDR support for OpenEXR and OpenColorIO
  • Resource manager
  • OpenGL Enhanced

I also suggest removing reviews by users. What helps our reputation is reviews by capable artists, not by common users. (It is also problematic because commons users disappear easily and we cannot confirm whether these reviews are true.) Current state looks as if Krita were an amateur tool and not so capable to be used by professional artists...

I am not sure if these suggestions means removing everything except what you are outlining, or if we want to call those out more. In regards to the user testimonials, not only are they accurate, but I asked permission from each person to be able to use it on the site.

For improving the features page, it would be good to first describe the problems with the existing page that we need to solve. This helps multiple people contribute to this conversation on ways to make this better. This is what I have gathered from a few different people I have talked with about this.

  • Show more/larger screenshot(s) on what the application looks like. The one we have now is a bit small and there aren't many.
  • have more "expert" testimonials that will give professional credibility.
  • Show/explain animation features a bit since Krita does that now.
  • some technical areas are a bit abstract and need more detail (maybe add a link for more info)
  • other problems with the features page??

The goal of the features page is to get people excited about Krita and show what they can do and accomplish with it. It is not a training area, but a high level overview of the range of things it might be used for.

If anyone else sees any issues, please let us know what they are now.

From the meeting notes today:

KonquiDragon has been creating some tasks for updating the website. He mentions that the highlights page could be better, but indicates he has no idea how to do the work.

  • The highlights page is where people go to when they want to decide whether downloading Krita is a good idea. It needs to show the main features Krita has, and a few surprises.
    • We could add the animation feature to the highlights page
    • An overview of the full UI
    • A video or gif that shows how easily the UI can be rearranged
    • Links to the manual
scottpetrovic added a comment.EditedMon, Aug 19, 1:31 PM

An overview of the full UI might be a bit too heavy for this page. Maybe what we can do is make the user interface section into its own area...and do a bit more describing what it is about. Then maybe link to the docs somewhere.

Another idea was to update some sections with more artwork like the color management and assistants tool. Right now there is a lot of text in that area.

One reference was to how Painter did stuff... https://www.painterartist.com/en/product/painter/#features

scottpetrovic renamed this task from Update features highlights according to 3.0 to Update features highlight page on krita.org.Mon, Aug 19, 1:45 PM
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ognarb added a subscriber: ognarb.Mon, Aug 19, 2:33 PM

I have been starting to make some changes to this page on the dev site for testing.

https://dev.krita.org/en/features/highlights/

Does anyone have any further ideas on ways to improve this?

The only thing I am planning on doing now is making the interface and animation images into some type of animated gif/video.

Note about animated gif:

I added in the KDE application 19.08 animated gif and this was a bit more difficult because of non-technical reason. MP4 are patented, so we wanted to use WebM instead, but there is no WebM support in Safari. So now we are using a small script that if safari is detected, play the video with Peertube and otherwise play it with WebM: https://websvn.kde.org/trunk/www/sites/www/announcements/announce-applications-19.08.0.php?revision=1550002&view=markup.

It looks like WebM also doesn't work in IE, which we still have quite few thousand people using that every month. Right now we just upload the videos right now to the website. We would have to make an account on peertube or something to put these type of one-off videos on if we want. I kind of don't want all these work-arounds and fallbacks just to get a video to play.

mp4 seems to have better support right now than webm does as well so it seems like an easy option.
https://caniuse.com/#feat=mpeg4
https://caniuse.com/#feat=webm

If we really need to be strict with video formats being "open", it will probably be easier to just not use video. I am not sure how other people feel about this.

@woltherav - The question for me is should we be using non open formats and things like MP4 video files...or youtube for that matter. I am ok with doing whatever most people are doing/using, but not sure how hardcore we want to get with sticking to open formats/platforms.

KonqiDragon added a subscriber: KonqiDragon.EditedThu, Aug 22, 7:14 PM

I have been starting to make some changes to this page on the dev site for testing.

https://dev.krita.org/en/features/highlights/

Does anyone have any further ideas on ways to improve this?

The only thing I am planning on doing now is making the interface and animation images into some type of animated gif/video.

Clean and Customizable Interface: Maybe make a 2 screenshots with light and dark themes and compare it with slider like in Quake II with RTX.
Brush Stabilizers: Need to show how this stabilization works by GIF or Video, to show how smoothly works lines while drawing.
Simple and Powerful 2D Animation: There need to show the process of creating animation in GIF or Video format.
Brush Engines: I see just the tiger.
And need show a Filters feature.

Again, @KonqiDragon, will you provide these animated files for us, or are you just gonna use the imperative voice on everything?

Again, @KonqiDragon, will you provide these animated files for us, or are you just gonna use the imperative voice on everything?

I'm say about my ideas, i not use the imperative voice, i think this will make the page more clearer for guests.
From Affinity Designer site can borrow some ideas, i like "Built for your workflow" part, we can make "More productivity" features in Krita's site like there.

KonqiDragon added a comment.EditedThu, Aug 22, 8:01 PM

I have been starting to make some changes to this page on the dev site for testing.

https://dev.krita.org/en/features/highlights/

Does anyone have any further ideas on ways to improve this?

The only thing I am planning on doing now is making the interface and animation images into some type of animated gif/video.

Need to complement about feature of comics creating. Can be use as an example something by David Revoy, he does comics in Krita.

For the point about Simple and Powerful 2D Animation, we could ask permission to use some of the works already published in youtube. I personally like this one.

I made a few updates. I think this is getting closer.

https://dev.krita.org/en/features/highlights

Let me know if there is anything else that might improve this.

KonqiDragon added a comment.EditedTue, Aug 27, 2:24 PM

I made a few updates. I think this is getting closer.

https://dev.krita.org/en/features/highlights

Let me know if there is anything else that might improve this.

Author's name is hard to see.


The panel on top is better if remove it.

I think that in Simple and Powerful 2D Animation the video is too big.

rempt added a subscriber: rempt.Tue, Aug 27, 3:08 PM

Konquidragon, if you don't stop telling people what to in such a very rude and peremptory way, I'm going to have to ask you to stay away from the krita community.

For reference, this is how you talk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperative_mood , it's considered very rude in english.

KonqiDragon added a comment.EditedTue, Aug 27, 5:20 PM
In T3147#196804, @rempt wrote:

Konquidragon, if you don't stop telling people what to in such a very rude and peremptory way, I'm going to have to ask you to stay away from the krita community.

Why i can't to leave feedback? My English is poor, probably i translated it wrong and this looks rude, i'm sorry.
P.S. I'm not Konqui, i'm Konqi.

rempt added a comment.Tue, Aug 27, 6:26 PM

Perhaps you need to learn to ask or suggest, instead of commanding.

This looks awesome. I only have a small suggestion:

I think it looks better if > has the same size as the text

or maybe something like this

(I can provide the CSS code for this breeze button)

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