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Stopping adding the announcements in two places
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Currently when writting an announcement, we post it to kde.org/announcements and dot.kde.org.

This cause some extra work, because we need to post it to two places and keep the content syncronized and this is bad for search engine optimization, since we now have the content to two places (reducing the change to be displayed in Google search result).

The only reason we currently do this is because we want the announcement published on dot.kde.org to also appear on planet.kde.org. But since a link to the lastest announcements often also appears in the mastodon feed on the right of planet page, I'm not sure it is really worth it.

And anyway in the future I will transform the entire kde.org to Hugo and we will get a RSS feed for free, so we won't have this problem anymore.

Thoughts?

ognarb created this task.Mar 1 2020, 5:21 PM
ognarb renamed this task from Stoping adding the announcements in two place to Stoping adding the announcements in two places.Mar 1 2020, 5:31 PM
paulb renamed this task from Stoping adding the announcements in two places to Stopping adding the announcements in two places.Mar 1 2020, 5:43 PM
paulb added a comment.EditedMar 1 2020, 5:46 PM

Not really. If you look at many announcements, the dot has a small summary, usually 3 paragraphs long, the official release announcement has more details with lots of highlights, and the changelog contains all the changes.

At least it is like that in the Plasma announcements.

jriddell added a comment.Mar 1 2020, 9:32 PM

We can just add https://kde.org/announcements/releases/index.xml to planet and then there's no need to duplicate those announces to Dot. If/When the website all moves to Hugo then something similar can be done there. Rewriting announcements into a new article for the Dot is a waste of time and energy.

paulb added a comment.Mar 2 2020, 8:57 AM

Be warned that I did make this argument back in the day and was told, sometimes quite forcefully, that announcements had to go on to the dot because there were people who relied on that exclusively to get their KDE news. This, of course, is a bit hard to believe: What? No mailing lists? No social media at all? Either way, I support this and for the reasons you mention, @jriddell and @ognarb. Also, having solved the planet page with Mastodon, there is even less arguments for not going ahead. Just know there may be some opposition. There was when I suggested it.

Maybe we could close this as we all agree that this is what we will do?

ognarb added a comment.Mar 2 2020, 3:48 PM

With some of my proposed redesign of dot.kde.org (posted in the chat), we could create fake articles redirecting to kde.org/announcements/. So that we still have all the news in one place for these people, but without the maintaince burden.

ngraham added a subscriber: ngraham.Mar 4 2020, 6:18 PM
In T12765#222279, @paulb wrote:

Be warned that I did make this argument back in the day and was told, sometimes quite forcefully, that announcements had to go on to the dot because there were people who relied on that exclusively to get their KDE news. This, of course, is a bit hard to believe: What? No mailing lists? No social media at all? Either way, I support this and for the reasons you mention, @jriddell and @ognarb.

Yeah, me too.

As a general matter, I think that it's acceptable to sometimes ask people to change a bit to that everything else can move forward. If we insist on preserving compatibility for everything and everyone's use case, progress becomes impossible.

paulb added a comment.Sep 7 2020, 5:49 PM

As we seem to agree to this, I am closing this as "resolved". Announcement on announcement pages only and what Jon said for RSS feeds:

In T12765#222253, @jriddell wrote:

We can just add https://kde.org/announcements/releases/index.xml to planet and then there's no need to duplicate those announces to Dot. If/When the website all moves to Hugo then something similar can be done there. Rewriting announcements into a new article for the Dot is a waste of time and energy.

paulb closed this task as Resolved.Sep 7 2020, 5:49 PM