What does "Neonize" mean? To my knowledge, Bionic uses the same font and size as Neon. The on;y thing we changed was to turn on slight RGB font hinting by default: T7618

When you file tasks, please try to be explicit about what it is you're requesting. A screenshot helps, if you're reporting something ambiguous that you think doesn't look good.

The on;y thing we changed was to turn on slight RGB font hinting by default: T7618

@ngraham I'm very pleased by Kubuntu 18.04. But you might wanna revert, please? Reason: causes eye-strain. They might look different on your screen though. On 1920 by 1080 they don't look right. Whatever.

Can you attach a screenshot showing the issue?

I ask because generally, using sub-pixel anti-aliasing is considered to reduce eye strain because the fonts should appear crisper and less blurry--provided the display pixel grid matches the sub-pixel layout. We chose RGB for maximum compatibility; if you have a screen with BGR pixels, it would look weird. If not, it should look better, so I'd like to see a screenshot.

Whatever.

Please keep it technical.

While in theory, you're right, in Neon the fonts look better. It's a dead end, I guess. I'll tweak it back.

Thanks, and how about a screenshot showing that same piece of text with the Neon settings?

Kubuntu .... 18.04. I wonder whether this is a side effect of RGB hinting ...

Hinting can be done in a number of ways. Let the user decide what's right for his/her screen/eyes.

In T8454#137175, @raddison wrote:

Hinting can be done in a number of ways. Let the user decide what's right for his/her screen/eyes.

Nothing's stopping that; the setting is fully configurable. We just chose what we thought would be a reasonable default. You have still not presented any information that indicates this was a mistake. Your last screenshot in particular appears to be the result of an unrelated graphics glitch, unless you can demonstrate that it is somehow related to the font hinting settings. If you can, please do so, as that would be a bug worth fixing.

You have still not presented any information that indicates this was a mistake.

Given the wide variety of screens and preferences, you're asking for the impossible.

Defaults are not meant to satisfy everyone, but rather the majority. Everyone else can configure it to their liking. I'm still waiting for evidence that the graphical glitch is related to the font hinting settings, and also a non-hinted text example that shows how it looks better than the hinted version.

The ideal solution here is to have all of this calculated programmatically, but that's something that would have to be done upstream.

Thanks, and how about a screenshot showing that same piece of text with the Neon settings?

From Neon ...

I'm still waiting for evidence that the graphical glitch is related to the font hinting settings

From Neon ...

Kubuntu .... 18.04. I wonder whether this is a side effect of RGB hinting ...

I had been saying I was wondering tho. I definitely hadn't stated it was caused by messing with hinting.

Anyways, try creating a text file to the desktop (folder view). You should notice an extra bug.

You shouln't invalidate a task for an extra remark.

This bug was marked as invalid because it really is invalid. You presented two images of text using different font hinting settings that look virtually identical when viewed at normal size (i.e. not zooming in to notice the differences).

Then you presented an image that looks like graphics-related corruption, and steadfastly refused to check whether it was caused by the default font hinting settings by simply changing them and seeing if the problem went away.

None of these are valid issues. If you're not getting the results you're hoping for in your interactions here, you might try doing something different. Try being more technical and more specific. And do read https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved/Bug_Reporting#Bug_tracker_etiquette

Not here. If you have a bug, please report on launchpad as usual.

@rikmills Okay. I just want you to know that my machine seems to like Kubuntu Bionic. Thanks.

It's either that I've done this

or an update fixed it

:)