Titler Tool - Idea task
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The titler tool is now getting its long overdue love!

This task shall serve as the collecting point for all the issues and ideas that have been discussed in the past and new ones. If you any, add yours too.

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emohr added a subscriber: emohr.EditedMar 31 2019, 5:20 PM
  • Handle and modify SVG files (vector graphics) in the titler. That would open a way for some kind of animation (maybe as an new feature for the future in Kdenlive). Some input here: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=405249
  • when I creat a title clip, I have to drop it to the timeline----the drop accion can be saved---when you creat a clip, it locates at the playead automatically which will be more efficiente (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=404264#c10)
  • tile clip automatically capture the firest line of its content as its name. When you are creating a title clip, you can not edit the clip name in the same window. To modify the name of the clip you have close the text editing window first and then modify it in the libary. When the text in the clip is too small to see the content, have to rename the clip to identify each one. (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=404264#c10)
  • shadow for shapes, lines, images
  • new line(size, colors)
  • outline or border for line
  • value custom scale for animation
  • optional rulers and guides. These movable guides can be used to align exactly graphical objects and text.
  • Grouping of graphic elements to which settings can be aplied.
  • Strong Multi-Stroke (for asian users). Several colorful contours can be created around an object or text.
  • 3d text with vanishing point

More points see "Title editor improvements": https://phabricator.kde.org/T3020

emohr added a comment.Apr 4 2019, 3:51 PM

Note for inkscape: QtSvg only supports TinySvg specification, so inkscape svg must be exported to this format to display properly in Kdenlive (note to add somewhere...)

afarid added a subscriber: afarid.EditedMay 5 2019, 2:00 AM

How about adding some presets for text animations (Click on image to see GIF)?

(Link: https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/18173275/55924510-0f6cf680-5c02-11e9-9985-fe3b15867fed.gif)

afarid added a comment.May 7 2019, 1:29 PM

Note for inkscape: QtSvg only supports TinySvg specification, so inkscape svg must be exported to this format to display properly in Kdenlive (note to add somewhere...)

Some people have suggested to look at Krita's implementation of SVG's.

m712 added a subscriber: m712.May 12 2019, 2:13 PM

I've been using this tool heavily for a couple of days so here are my suggestions.

  • A way to duplicate items. I couldn't find any way to do this.
  • Images cannot be resized freely, they must keep their aspect ratio. This should be a switch like in the transform tool.
  • The color picker is really weird. It doesn't allow me to select/copy the current color of the object that I have and when I try to add a new color it always resets to #000000.
  • The shadow features of the text is really lacking. Ideally it should have as many properties as CSS's box-shadow, like adding multiple shadows, XY coordinates, blur, spread and color (with alpha).
  • The text object also seems to not support multiple text styles within the same object. Don't know if this is good or bad but I would expect it to behave like GIMP's text tool where you can set font face and bold/non-bold for specific parts of the text, for example. This makes it hard to do definition lists where you have the definition in boldface and the description in normal face.
  • I don't understand why the animation tab exists. In my opinion it should be forgone for using the default effects with keyframes that Kdenlive provides.

I agree with everything that @m712 said except for the animation part, the animation features in the titler tool are extremely useful for making things like rolling credits.

bartoloni added a subscriber: bartoloni.EditedJun 3 2019, 4:10 PM

How about adding some presets for text animations (Click on image to see GIF)?

These seems just vintage-effects from 2000/2010 year.. are you sure? i never see a professional movie with these kind of effects... better to add a SMOKE/DISTORTION/SOFTNESS/FOCUS/NOISE effect on standard Kdenlive effects to have something to make a 2019 title effect.


I agree with everything that @m712 said except for the animation part, the animation features in the titler tool are extremely useful for making things like rolling credits.

rolling credits can be done using Composite and transform effect, better to not add 2 type of transitions for the same usage ... (or not?)


It's nice to have a Titler rewrite :) i think that for now what it's necessary is to have an updated code (with fresh 2019 minds), freely to upgrade during time without issues.

my suggestions? do not add too much things ... lot of things.. lot of bugs.. (and Kdenlive provide a lot of effects/transitions that can be added to a title clip)

BTW centering and shadows needs improvements:

  1. make that the centered/aligned flags (now only buttons and not flags) auto-refresh image on screen when selected (now adding lines or changing text size doesn't change the text centering.. and lines/words are exiting screen bounds) .. this also means that these centering flags will un-flagged if the text is moved by mouse in a custom place.
  1. make borders/shadow of text more customizable (like opacity/progressive-opacity/edge-size) , this make screen texts more "readable" on complex background of the same color of text.
emohr added a comment.Jun 3 2019, 6:43 PM

//add a SMOKE/DISTORTION/SOFTNESS/FOCUS/NOISE effect on standard Kdenlive effects > ____________________________________________________________________________________________________

+1

Thank you so much for this! Here are my ideas (all of this is based on using the Windows version of Kdenlive):

  1. Undo and redo buttons within the titler
  2. Being able to edit titles by double clicking the clips in the Timeline (right now, we can only edit the clips from the Bin/Library)
  3. Issue to resolve: When I close a Kdenlive project and then re-open a few days later to edit a title, spaces are added between each line that weren't present before (even in sentences)
  4. Being able to animate lines/text boxes individually within the titles. Right now, if I want parts of a text to animate one after the other, I have to duplicate a title and then add the additional text. If I want to make any modifications to the text, I have to start from scratch. This feature could work kind if like PowerPoints animation pane
  5. Being able to see the flashing cursor when typing
  6. Better integration of the downloadable user-generated title templates (right now, in Windows, you can download the titles from inside the titler (from: https://store.kde.org/browse/cat/335/é0, but the downloaded templates don't appear inside of the titler; the user has to comb through the Kdenlive folders to find the downloaded files). I definitely want to contribute by making more title templates, but this has been my main issue.
  7. Integrating a subtitle feature that exports a .srt file
  8. A Natron and/or Blender integration for aninated text
  9. Keep the "Show Background" feature
  10. Being able to edit .svg files within the titler to be able to create more dynamic shapes (without having to create graphics in an image editor). This would be especially helpful for customized lower thirds and titles