for (;;);{"error":null,"payload":{"timeline":"\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell phui-timeline-green\" id=\"anchor-188614\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_27\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/nuylgslncg2thotjdhik\/PHID-FILE-5ha7k5ti6lqhsim6cm3i\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/niccolove\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"188614\" id=\"188614\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_25\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/niccolove\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eniccolove\u003c\/a\u003e created this task.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#188614\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_24\"\u003eJun 13 2019, 6:16 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill fill-has-color phui-timeline-icon-fill-green\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-arrow-right phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_26\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/niccolove\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eniccolove\u003c\/a\u003e triaged this task as \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003eNormal\u003c\/span\u003e priority.\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-188625\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_31\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/qds6pjw2jjshb453vyxy\/PHID-FILE-xm6keo5pqhmhldlfgu7l\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/GB_2\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"188625\" id=\"188625\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_29\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/GB_2\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eGB_2\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-bxblowurz23rsrf\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#188625\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_28\"\u003eJun 13 2019, 6:17 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_30\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/GB_2\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eGB_2\u003c\/a\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/GB_2\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_7\"\u003eGB_2\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-188627\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_34\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/nuylgslncg2thotjdhik\/PHID-FILE-5ha7k5ti6lqhsim6cm3i\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/niccolove\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"188627\" id=\"188627\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_33\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/niccolove\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eniccolove\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-lxkfngnj3ypzsfw\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#188627\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_32\"\u003eJun 13 2019, 6:17 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-188628\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_37\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/jp3luzknmku7uqxtuvo6\/PHID-FILE-xsdcutgttv2nstp3pfh2\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"188628\" id=\"188628\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_36\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-yakru6zkah53lvg\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#188628\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_35\"\u003eJun 13 2019, 6:18 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-188629\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_41\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/nuylgslncg2thotjdhik\/PHID-FILE-5ha7k5ti6lqhsim6cm3i\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/niccolove\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"188629\" id=\"188629\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_39\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/niccolove\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eniccolove\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-aff36cvi5p2ityc\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#188629\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_38\"\u003eJun 13 2019, 6:19 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_40\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/niccolove\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eniccolove\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-z33rinofrlj7nj2\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-188702\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_51\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/ixtdiubhyzpiximeaigu\/PHID-FILE-bm6yburgazg7dlwnfqod\/alphanumeric_aleo-white_C.png-_69a573-255%2C255%2C255%2C0.4.png)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/crozbo\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"188702\" id=\"188702\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_50\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/crozbo\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003ecrozbo\u003c\/a\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/crozbo\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_8\"\u003ecrozbo\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003eEdited\u003cspan class=\"visual-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"#188702\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_49\"\u003eJun 13 2019, 10:17 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_47\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_48\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_9\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThis is similar proposal as \u003ca href=\"\/T11051\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_0\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT11051\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, there I explanin a to need reorganization in platforms, tools, websites, here you focus more on applications. And in \u003ca href=\"\/T11069\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_1\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT11069\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, I propose to make better KDE PIM, where I list same\/similiar problems in that application suit, your goal is more wider. So my goal is like subtask for this, work on improving PIM can be starting point.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-188713\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_54\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/ykfjfuflymyoheu33e3x\/PHID-FILE-xfxe5qbip67prl6arkht\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/nicolasfella\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"188713\" id=\"188713\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_53\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/nicolasfella\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003enicolasfella\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-hqdpb2t23a7d4ih\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#188713\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_52\"\u003eJun 13 2019, 11:18 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-188714\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_63\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/ykfjfuflymyoheu33e3x\/PHID-FILE-xfxe5qbip67prl6arkht\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/nicolasfella\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"188714\" id=\"188714\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_62\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/nicolasfella\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003enicolasfella\u003c\/a\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/nicolasfella\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_10\"\u003enicolasfella\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#188714\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_61\"\u003eJun 13 2019, 11:41 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_59\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_60\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_11\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eMy two cents:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003evvave, index, nota and buho all have a major "feature" that sets them apart from the other mentioned apps. They are targeted towards a mobile platform. Especially for Dolphin vs Index this makes perfect sense because IMHO trying to adapt Dolphin to work good on mobile would not be wise.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eGitlab vs Bugzilla vs Phabricator\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eHaving both Phabricator and GitLab was never meant to be a permanent solution\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eIRC vs Matrix vs Mailing lists vs Telegram\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIt's the same channels, just differnt ways to access them. Matrix is supposed to be the way forward here\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eVery inconsistent apps: Gwenview\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e+1. See \u003ca href=\"\/T9226\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_2\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT9226\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e for a plan for more consistency with Dolphin and other apps\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-188746\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_72\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/motnao7i75ffjhufh732\/PHID-FILE-bucli5nghykhubkfsfis\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/martinsotirov\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"188746\" id=\"188746\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_71\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/martinsotirov\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003emartinsotirov\u003c\/a\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/martinsotirov\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_12\"\u003emartinsotirov\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#188746\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_70\"\u003eJun 14 2019, 6:49 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_68\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_69\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_13\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eAgree\u003c\/strong\u003e about the redundancy and reinventing of the wheel but that's how it is in open-source.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eCompletely disagree\u003c\/strong\u003e about the consistency between different apps. I wouldn't want all applications to look the same. There is a reason for example why Gwenview uses a dark theme \u2013 it's a photo application.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eOn your screenshots I can clearly see bigger problems that you don't mention:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003ecluttered UIs\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003einconsistent spacing and typography (within the app itself not between different apps)\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003ehorrible font rendering (I don't know what's up with the default KDE font rendering... I always have to tweak it a lot on KDE Neon).\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-188749\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_81\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/nuylgslncg2thotjdhik\/PHID-FILE-5ha7k5ti6lqhsim6cm3i\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/niccolove\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"188749\" id=\"188749\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_80\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/niccolove\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eniccolove\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#188749\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_79\"\u003eJun 14 2019, 7:55 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_77\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_78\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_14\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003evvave, index, nota and buho all have a major "feature" that sets them apart from the other mentioned apps. They are targeted towards a mobile platform. Especially for Dolphin vs Index this makes perfect sense because IMHO trying to adapt Dolphin to work good on mobile would not be wise.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eYeah, that's something I though about. I decided to put them in anyway becasue I am under the impression (but I might be wrong) that KDE values convergency. Kirigami is a great example of it, and there are KDE apps that work fine on phones as-is, such as KAlgebra. Developing a completely new application for mobile would make it have fewer features than the desktop one and fragment the development. I honestly think that apps such as Dolphin could work well on phones with different defaults. Dolphin should also work on touch input on desktop as well, as some laptops are indeed touchscreen. Furthermore, if you look at big enterprises such as Google, they prefer to offer only one product ("Chrome") both for phone and desktop. The codebase might be different, but they do prefer to keep the branding consistent. Finally, many applications in the list are "oh, but they do have feature X", but I think all those special feature can be developed in the same application.\u003cbr \/\u003e\nOf course, this is still a valid point, thank you for the feedback. Do you agree with these reasons, or am I going in the wrong direction?\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eGitlab vs Bugzilla vs Phabricator\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eHaving both Phabricator and GitLab was never meant to be a permanent solution\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIndeed. This goal would also focus on completing that transition.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eIRC vs Matrix vs Mailing lists vs Telegram\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIt's the same channels, just differnt ways to access them. Matrix is supposed to be the way forward here\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eExcept mailing lists (which are completely different and also often confusing to me, as they often mostly contain just phab changelogs), they should be the same channels. But there are some chats that are not available at all to others (such as promovideo to Telegram) and the brigde often has problems. Still, this is mostly a minor problem.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eAgree\u003c\/strong\u003e about the redundancy and reinventing of the wheel but that's how it is in open-source.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThat's true, but I think KDE is a community that's good enough to work on this problem, at least on its own app ecosystem.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eCompletely disagree\u003c\/strong\u003e about the consistency between different apps. I wouldn't want all applications to look the same. There is a reason for example why Gwenview uses a dark theme \u2013 it's a photo application.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eOh! I did not expect this, so thank you for stating it. What I meant is that applications should use the same basic block, such as panels and toolbars, so that users learn to use them. Similiar function should also behave similiarly (the "find" function should have the same UI on all apps). The example you bring is a bit different; now, I understand when Gwenview uses gray as a background color to display images, but I do not understand at all why does it use it when displaying files, similiarly to Dolphin, which does follow the colorscheme.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003einconsistent spacing and typography (within the app itself not between different apps)\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis is a problem that should definitively be addressed in this task, yeah.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003ecluttered UIs\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003ehorrible font rendering (I don't know what's up with the default KDE font rendering... I always have to tweak it a lot on KDE Neon).\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThese are definitively problems, but they're out of the scope of this task. Maybe a goal about better typography? You seem to be more expert than me in that.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-188767\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_84\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/l3g5deovsglxk7bxmqwz\/PHID-FILE-evexmx64c7dkjgjh6ugm\/57c2c3-alphanumeric_lato-dark_F.png-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.png)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/fabianr\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"188767\" id=\"188767\" 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href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-zgzknblrxfguuyl\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#188776\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_85\"\u003eJun 14 2019, 12:00 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_87\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" 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class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_96\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/jrioux\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003ejrioux\u003c\/a\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/jrioux\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_17\"\u003ejrioux\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#188879\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_95\"\u003eJun 14 2019, 9:53 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_93\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_94\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_18\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eAlso, I believe KDE settings are not saved in a consistent way in the .kde & .local directories. \u003cbr \/\u003e\nEasy import\/export of KDE configuration could enable more seamless integration instead of just sharing a \/home folder.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIdeally a single file configuration that pop-up a selection menu to import only selected elements would be the best. Also allowing import-export of past & future KDE version's setting without throwing errors. You could also just parse the whole file and have the exact same feel no matter distribution or flavor (linux\/BSD). Also additionnal patches could be added for network printers depending on physical location (printers_floor1.xxx, printers_building2.xxx, 3monitor-workstation.xxx 2monitor-laptop-dock.xxx)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eA user could then have it's configuration file stored on SAMBA\/NFS and restore it's session feature without messing with folders. Changes could be saved by appending the file without overwriting old config, so you could always revert to day X config or systemX config. It could help sync different setups without messing with complicated syncs\/ssh folder copy.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis would also help for \u003cstrong\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/T11080\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003eKDE for Big Enterprise T11080\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/strong\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-188882\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_106\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/jp3luzknmku7uqxtuvo6\/PHID-FILE-xsdcutgttv2nstp3pfh2\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"188882\" id=\"188882\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_105\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#188882\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_104\"\u003eJun 14 2019, 10:25 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_102\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_103\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_19\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e+1 just for the amount of work you put into the proposal. It's clear you've been thinking about this for quite some time, and the problems are laid out very clearly. I agree with almost everything you say. It's these kinds of little inconsistencies that hurt KDE has a brand and makes the whole KDE ecosystem feel fragmented and unreliable, like nobody's coordinating everything. ...probably because it's true!  Just a heads-up though: by far the biggest part of this goal is that coordination. If it's chosen, you're basically signing up to do it. :)\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-188895\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_109\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/aj3xkndgmy4tdqbk47xh\/PHID-FILE-pppnvwvhqaq2i4rcjghf\/335862-alphanumeric_aleo-white_J.png-255%2C255%2C255%2C0.7.png)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/jrioux\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"188895\" id=\"188895\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_108\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/jrioux\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003ejrioux\u003c\/a\u003e mentioned this in \u003ca href=\"\/T11068\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\"\u003eT11068: Solve important long term problems better than add new features\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#188895\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_107\"\u003eJun 15 2019, 12:12 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv 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href=\"\/p\/lydia\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003elydia\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-scmwvgjwmumru3w\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#188925\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_110\"\u003eJun 15 2019, 7:15 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell phui-timeline-yellow\" id=\"anchor-188939\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_115\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/o467xaf3ifrvd55nh7xq\/PHID-FILE-afdnbuveejjlrqpd45sp\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/lydia\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"188939\" id=\"188939\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill fill-has-color phui-timeline-icon-fill-yellow\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-arrow-up phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_114\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/lydia\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003elydia\u003c\/a\u003e raised the priority of this task from \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003eNormal\u003c\/span\u003e to \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003eNeeds Triage\u003c\/span\u003e.\u003cspan 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class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_117\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/gikari\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003egikari\u003c\/a\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/gikari\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_20\"\u003egikari\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#188985\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_116\"\u003eJun 15 2019, 2:45 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" 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phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_126\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ervin\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eervin\u003c\/a\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/ervin\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_21\"\u003eervin\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#189840\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_125\"\u003eJun 23 2019, 12:52 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_123\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_124\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_22\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T11093#188882\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_3\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT11093#188882\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_4\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@ngraham\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e+1 just for the amount of work you put into the proposal. It's clear you've been thinking about this for quite some time, and the problems are laid out very clearly. I agree with almost everything you say. It's these kinds of little inconsistencies that hurt KDE has a brand and makes the whole KDE ecosystem feel fragmented and unreliable, like nobody's coordinating everything. ...probably because it's true!  Just a heads-up though: by far the biggest part of this goal is that coordination. If it's chosen, you're basically signing up to do it. :)\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI agree a lot with Nate there. And that creates a huge risk for that goal which should be in my opinion addressed in the proposal. How would you approach putting in place such a coordination? Because if it comes too heavy handed, people will reject it outright, if it's too soft it'll be ignored. IOW: there's a high risk of the status quo prevailing, how do you propose to address that?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-190117\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_136\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/jp3luzknmku7uqxtuvo6\/PHID-FILE-xsdcutgttv2nstp3pfh2\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"190117\" id=\"190117\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_135\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#190117\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_134\"\u003eJun 25 2019, 12:56 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_132\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_133\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_23\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eSo right now the \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/vdg\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-shade phui-tag-blue phui-tag-shade phui-tag-icon-view \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_6\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core \"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-users\" data-meta=\"0_5\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003eVDG\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e is pretty much doing this kind of coordination (as the task concerns the user interface). It might make sense to focus on that angle so there's a lower bus factor associated with the proposed task coordination 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