for (;;);{"error":null,"payload":{"timeline":"\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-148031\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_22\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/jp3luzknmku7uqxtuvo6\/PHID-FILE-xsdcutgttv2nstp3pfh2\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"148031\" id=\"148031\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_20\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e created this task.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#148031\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_19\"\u003eJun 19 2018, 7:22 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_21\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e mentioned this in \u003ca href=\"\/T9042\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\"\u003eT9042: Kickoff improvements\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-156699\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_25\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/jp3luzknmku7uqxtuvo6\/PHID-FILE-xsdcutgttv2nstp3pfh2\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"156699\" id=\"156699\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_24\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e mentioned this in \u003ca href=\"\/D15011\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\"\u003eD15011: [Kickoff] Make the search field always look like a search field\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#156699\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_23\"\u003eAug 24 2018, 2:04 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-157047\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_34\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/77tieb4kxtu24aw2o6hv\/PHID-FILE-mfip3kgkkabxggbly4tk\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/filipf\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"157047\" id=\"157047\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_33\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/filipf\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003efilipf\u003c\/a\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/filipf\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_9\"\u003efilipf\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#157047\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_32\"\u003eAug 26 2018, 8:28 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_30\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_31\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_10\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThis is an excellent, much-needed proposal that is already conceptually at a very high level.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI've tried to create a picture depicting the key design elements in order to try to bring the proposal somewhat closer to life. It's crude, devoid of actual content and made from scratch so I apologize if I didn't translate some of the elements from the sketch well:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/kzljtgu75sy5h5idj6un\/PHID-FILE-bxa3dywfdix4qoa33m3p\/KickoffHome%281%29.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_0\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/alz7fsckpfcvai2p52al\/PHID-FILE-pgq6iuz5kaaex3p2b76u\/preview-KickoffHome%281%29.png\" width=\"157.14285714286\" height=\"220\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eOverlooking the shortcomings of my attempt, IMO on the whole I think it shows I that this proposal could make for a really beautiful redesign. From a design point of view, the separators are no problem and even help the search box not stick out too much. Moreover, I don't think we necessarily need to be coloring sections differently, separators could suffice.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThere are, however, two problems I see when the sketch is translated into "real life":\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003col class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eIn the case of longer names we won't be able to fit both the users name and the computer+OS information above the search box\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eThe tabs! Because there are only 3 tabs now, if we enclose them they are going to be very wide and lumpy. Width is a problem, but in the proposal perhaps they are kind of tall as well. What remains open is also the question of how to separate the tabs from the rest of Kickoff (note: in this pic I put a light top to bottom gradient, but this would not work with a light theme and is not a good solution)\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ol\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eOh and I what I did differently was that I added 20% opacity transparent circles behind action buttons because it seemed like a good idea here - the user would be informed that it's the icon they have to click, not the text (assuming that's how the code will behave).\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-157049\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_43\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/77tieb4kxtu24aw2o6hv\/PHID-FILE-mfip3kgkkabxggbly4tk\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/filipf\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"157049\" id=\"157049\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_42\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/filipf\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003efilipf\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#157049\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_41\"\u003eAug 26 2018, 9:38 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_39\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_40\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_11\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eIn this experiment I propose the solution for point 1 raised in my previous post:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/zmamvendpkhefafiksh2\/PHID-FILE-22vdfeaybor2aqdgyjbp\/KickoffHome%282%29.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_1\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/bd46p3r7x5vqbsfofgwj\/PHID-FILE-ixjq7te6pui4eosa7lzd\/preview-KickoffHome%282%29.png\" width=\"157.14285714286\" height=\"220\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI think sorting it out this way is great because all the elements to the right of the avatar circle are now of the same height as the circle.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI also tried to see how many favorites icons I could fit in and stopped at 14 in this specific case.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eFailed at having two rows in the Recent Files and Recent Apps section :\/\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAnd instead of adding "Forget all" buttons, I thought that adding X icons (or whatever a "clear entries" icon would be) would create less clutter.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-157050\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_52\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/rqco73wohxakrcsm2m52\/PHID-FILE-zyhktif6eo2vmjvtvg5h\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/abetts\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"157050\" id=\"157050\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_51\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/abetts\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eabetts\u003c\/a\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/abetts\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_12\"\u003eabetts\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#157050\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_50\"\u003eAug 26 2018, 9:43 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_48\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_49\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_13\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T9041#157049\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_3\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT9041#157049\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/filipf\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_4\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@filipf\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eIn this experiment I propose the solution for point 1 raised in my previous post:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/zmamvendpkhefafiksh2\/PHID-FILE-22vdfeaybor2aqdgyjbp\/KickoffHome%282%29.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_2\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/bd46p3r7x5vqbsfofgwj\/PHID-FILE-ixjq7te6pui4eosa7lzd\/preview-KickoffHome%282%29.png\" width=\"157.14285714286\" height=\"220\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI think sorting it out this way is great because all the elements to the right of the avatar circle are now of the same height as the circle.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI also tried to see how many favorites icons I could fit in and stopped at 14 in this specific case.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eFailed at having two rows in the Recent Files and Recent Apps section :\/\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAnd instead of adding "Forget all" buttons, I thought that adding X icons (or whatever a "clear entries" icon would be) would create less clutter.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWould we consider a bigger menu overall? Wider and taller so as to accommodate elements better? I am thinking a little bit like Cinnamon or even Windows\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-157052\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_61\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/77tieb4kxtu24aw2o6hv\/PHID-FILE-mfip3kgkkabxggbly4tk\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/filipf\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"157052\" id=\"157052\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_60\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/filipf\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003efilipf\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#157052\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_59\"\u003eAug 26 2018, 9:59 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_57\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_58\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_14\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI think it can (and probably should) definitely be bigger, in fact in my pics it's probably as small as Kickoff can be and crammed, no need for it to be that size. Personally I wouldn't go the Cinnamon or Windows route because they're really wide... IIRC Cinnamon isn't too efficient with space, and Windows has those big tiles to accommodate ads and what not. In Windows (post 7) I always prefer to have something like \u003ca href=\"http:\/\/www.classicshell.net\/gallery\/var\/albums\/Start-Menu\/metro_skin.png?m=1428774617\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003eClassic Shell\u003c\/a\u003e. But yeah bigger for sure.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-157055\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_70\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/jp3luzknmku7uqxtuvo6\/PHID-FILE-xsdcutgttv2nstp3pfh2\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"157055\" id=\"157055\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_69\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#157055\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_68\"\u003eAug 27 2018, 3:37 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_66\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_67\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_15\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI'm glad you like the idea, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/filipf\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_7\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@filipf\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e! Your high fidelity mockup is really nice, and it's pretty much exactly what I had in mind! I agree that with this design, a larger size might be warranted. The current complaints on that score IMHO are not so much about the large size, but rather the low density. If we increase the density, people would probably be okay with it being even bigger in the service of accommodating more useful content. Of course other tabs would then have even lower density. We could fix this for the \u003cspan class=\"remarkup-nav-sequence\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-shade phui-tag-grey phui-tag-shade \"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core \"\u003eApplications\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e tab (see \u003ca href=\"\/T9040\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_5\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT9040: Improve navigation on Kickoff's Applications page\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e), but the remaining tabs would still have very low density without some more redesign work.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eDo you have any QML or development experience, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/filipf\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_6\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@filipf\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, or are these GIMP mockups?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-157089\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_79\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/q7o7zc3d66245rw5rti6\/PHID-FILE-ypocx4xpzqe54rziu5yp\/b4c4ad-alphanumeric_lato-white_S.png-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.png)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/safaalfulaij\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"157089\" id=\"157089\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_78\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/safaalfulaij\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003esafaalfulaij\u003c\/a\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/safaalfulaij\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_16\"\u003esafaalfulaij\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#157089\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_77\"\u003eAug 27 2018, 9:12 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_75\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_76\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_17\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThis is nice! Let\u2019s not forget that we have applications that have a name with more than 2 words (GIMP, Plasma X Explorer, KMail Import Wizard, and some others.). They aren\u2019t many, but we don\u2019t have any idea about 3rd-party apps. Maybe this is why applications are having horizontal items so the name can fit however long it is.\u003cbr \/\u003e\nPossible solutions:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eGet rid of the name in favorites section and just use the icon.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eResize sections and give the favorites the biggist area, then narraw down the number of allowed favorites and use a bigger item.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eUse marquee text (up and down) for long names.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAnother thing is that if the user wants to open the 10th recent document (which is a regression from current Kickoff). With this idea he can\u2019t. Maybe a button somewhere to open the \u201cRecent documents\u201d in the file manager?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-157196\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_88\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/77tieb4kxtu24aw2o6hv\/PHID-FILE-mfip3kgkkabxggbly4tk\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/filipf\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"157196\" id=\"157196\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_87\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/filipf\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003efilipf\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#157196\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_86\"\u003eAug 27 2018, 3:00 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_84\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_85\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_18\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eWell yeah I really liked the concept, no one else has a menu like this one, and yet it would be super functional... so I was intrigued to see how it would look like. The pics were just photo manipulation though.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThinking how to save a bit more vertical space, it occurred to me that maybe the section titles and separators could blended together:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/pfzmruft4hfzyxbwjnr2\/PHID-FILE-dkvq7y45dswwykpxixix\/KickoffHome4.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_8\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/fuilnruh74axnej63fdx\/PHID-FILE-qsxumgfjwymf3qzbjwjx\/preview-KickoffHome4.png\" width=\"157.14285714286\" height=\"220\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eUnfortunately since "Files" and "Apps" do not have the same the same amount of letters, this breaks symmetry a bit.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAs another visual experiment, this pic contains an additional separator above the tabs on which the active tab bar would roll on. I\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAnd for what Safa pointed out about accessing additional document, maybe a small button with three dots could be added below the list. Would be Breeze style of course, not like 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