for (;;);{"error":null,"payload":{"timeline":"\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell phui-timeline-green\" id=\"anchor-173166\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_26\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/jp3luzknmku7uqxtuvo6\/PHID-FILE-xsdcutgttv2nstp3pfh2\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"173166\" id=\"173166\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_22\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e created this task.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#173166\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_21\"\u003eJan 13 2019, 11:03 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill fill-has-color phui-timeline-icon-fill-green\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-arrow-right phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_23\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e triaged this task as \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003eWishlist\u003c\/span\u003e priority.\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_24\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e renamed this task from \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003eLogin screen redesign\u003c\/span\u003e to \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003e5.16 Login screen redesign\u003c\/span\u003e.\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_25\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e mentioned this in \u003ca href=\"\/T9658\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\"\u003eT9658: Rethink blur-by-default for Breeze SDDM login screen theme for Plasma 5.15\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-173181\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_29\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/77tieb4kxtu24aw2o6hv\/PHID-FILE-mfip3kgkkabxggbly4tk\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/filipf\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"173181\" id=\"173181\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_28\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/filipf\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003efilipf\u003c\/a\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/filipf\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_16\"\u003efilipf\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#173181\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_27\"\u003eJan 13 2019, 11:05 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-173182\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_32\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/jp3luzknmku7uqxtuvo6\/PHID-FILE-xsdcutgttv2nstp3pfh2\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"173182\" id=\"173182\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_31\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-q76tingdoepuhrw\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#173182\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_30\"\u003eJan 13 2019, 11:08 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-173186\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_41\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/jp3luzknmku7uqxtuvo6\/PHID-FILE-xsdcutgttv2nstp3pfh2\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"173186\" id=\"173186\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_40\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#173186\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_39\"\u003eJan 13 2019, 11:17 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_37\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_38\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_17\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eIn order to always work with any background, I think it's unavoidable that the UI elements need to be placed on top of a window, box, or frame of some sort. It can look sleek and modern, but we shouldn't have the elements floating above the background with nothing underneath them and nothing to provide grouping and structure. Most themes already do this, including the most of the ones available via GHNS.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eSome examples:\u003cbr \/\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/cavqbkrduhuwtoshq6wk\/PHID-FILE-m4vd6aaatgswmu7427vx\/blurSDDMsketch2.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_0\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/tfkzbancuf3i3pcxrlyn\/PHID-FILE-ho5q5kufcpx6wonaylrv\/preview-blurSDDMsketch2.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"115.93952483801\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/mpm4c6hcnrip467k7xqi\/PHID-FILE-n3h5zxyf6cfkn7impuwh\/photo_2019-01-13_16-10-14.jpg\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_1\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/cg6md3b25knqwdckpn66\/PHID-FILE-ylsblri6xrw7qwbkeudz\/preview-photo_2019-01-13_16-10-14.jpg\" width=\"220\" height=\"115.84375\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/6uxhxndf7vvf36kim7cg\/PHID-FILE-gbhvxjs3n54tgpu57xnw\/Screenshot_20190113_161214.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_2\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/jk7j2mx4ltueuw3k2rxs\/PHID-FILE-2ivp2ippvjkshfszg5rf\/preview-Screenshot_20190113_161214.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"162.78388278388\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/rdl4eyzfjx5n3tvwxsa3\/PHID-FILE-uo7tkdzhagiwzhhtkdzd\/Screenshot_20190113_161249.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_3\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/wke4x5kgdt7jommemqqs\/PHID-FILE-mw5vkxtjwkuo2hhfyf3c\/preview-Screenshot_20190113_161249.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"122.49084249084\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/rvpsnuvqfs5uwc7bhsnw\/PHID-FILE-6xtk54rdjjjezul7roej\/Screenshot_20190113_161320.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_4\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/zl4km3lmmaw2hyk3gfa7\/PHID-FILE-caxrgw5bgmp7uyfxl2g3\/preview-Screenshot_20190113_161320.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"137.91044776119\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/bechsob3uvwsluoqqdpj\/PHID-FILE-cl5rbftfgi6kmhil7mjr\/Screenshot_20190113_161451.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_5\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/ffat5e6rjaonjtv2perw\/PHID-FILE-he6lgjpw6mkuswnenw66\/preview-Screenshot_20190113_161451.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"117.29591836735\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-173187\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_50\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/rqco73wohxakrcsm2m52\/PHID-FILE-zyhktif6eo2vmjvtvg5h\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/abetts\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"173187\" id=\"173187\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_49\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/abetts\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eabetts\u003c\/a\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/abetts\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_18\"\u003eabetts\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#173187\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_48\"\u003eJan 13 2019, 11:22 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_46\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_47\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_19\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10325#173186\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_12\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10325#173186\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_13\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@ngraham\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eIn order to always work with any background, I think it's unavoidable that the UI elements need to be placed on top of a window, box, or frame of some sort. It can look sleek and modern, but we shouldn't have the elements floating above the background with nothing underneath them and nothing to provide grouping and structure. Most themes already do this, including the most of the ones available via GHNS.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eSome examples:\u003cbr \/\u003e\n \u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/cavqbkrduhuwtoshq6wk\/PHID-FILE-m4vd6aaatgswmu7427vx\/blurSDDMsketch2.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_6\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/tfkzbancuf3i3pcxrlyn\/PHID-FILE-ho5q5kufcpx6wonaylrv\/preview-blurSDDMsketch2.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"115.93952483801\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\n \u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/mpm4c6hcnrip467k7xqi\/PHID-FILE-n3h5zxyf6cfkn7impuwh\/photo_2019-01-13_16-10-14.jpg\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_7\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/cg6md3b25knqwdckpn66\/PHID-FILE-ylsblri6xrw7qwbkeudz\/preview-photo_2019-01-13_16-10-14.jpg\" width=\"220\" height=\"115.84375\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\n \u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/6uxhxndf7vvf36kim7cg\/PHID-FILE-gbhvxjs3n54tgpu57xnw\/Screenshot_20190113_161214.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_8\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/jk7j2mx4ltueuw3k2rxs\/PHID-FILE-2ivp2ippvjkshfszg5rf\/preview-Screenshot_20190113_161214.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"162.78388278388\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\n \u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/rdl4eyzfjx5n3tvwxsa3\/PHID-FILE-uo7tkdzhagiwzhhtkdzd\/Screenshot_20190113_161249.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_9\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/wke4x5kgdt7jommemqqs\/PHID-FILE-mw5vkxtjwkuo2hhfyf3c\/preview-Screenshot_20190113_161249.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"122.49084249084\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\n \u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/rvpsnuvqfs5uwc7bhsnw\/PHID-FILE-6xtk54rdjjjezul7roej\/Screenshot_20190113_161320.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_10\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/zl4km3lmmaw2hyk3gfa7\/PHID-FILE-caxrgw5bgmp7uyfxl2g3\/preview-Screenshot_20190113_161320.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"137.91044776119\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\n \u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/bechsob3uvwsluoqqdpj\/PHID-FILE-cl5rbftfgi6kmhil7mjr\/Screenshot_20190113_161451.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_11\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/ffat5e6rjaonjtv2perw\/PHID-FILE-he6lgjpw6mkuswnenw66\/preview-Screenshot_20190113_161451.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"117.29591836735\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis really feels like a visual regression to me. I vote no on the design. I think we are trying too hard to accommodate to this idea and it is not working out visually. The wallpaper choice depends on the user, if the user feels that the image doesn't accommodate to the login design, then it's their choice to change their wallpaper. I think, at max, we could accommodate to the wallpapers we ship, but we can't really control what users want to contrast the login screen with. On the other hand, we have really drawn this conversation, it is time to find closure and call it.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-173189\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_59\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/jp3luzknmku7uqxtuvo6\/PHID-FILE-xsdcutgttv2nstp3pfh2\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"173189\" id=\"173189\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_58\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#173189\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_57\"\u003eJan 13 2019, 11:36 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_55\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_56\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_20\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10325#173187\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_14\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10325#173187\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/abetts\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_15\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@abetts\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThis really feels like a visual regression to me. I vote no on the design. I think we are trying too hard to accommodate to this idea and it is not working out visually. The wallpaper choice depends on the user, if the user feels that the image doesn't accommodate to the login design, then it's their choice to change their wallpaper.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eDesign accommodates the user, not vice versa.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWe are doing this for the users, not to show off our fancy design. If our design generates user complaints and doesn't work with the thing that is most commonly changed (the wallpaper) I think the design not a success. With the current design, we've gotten many bug reports and user complaints. First about the ugly blue background, then about the fact that contrast was poor with many wallpapers, then with the fact that the blur makes their chosen wallpaper unintelligible. When we try to solve any of these issues, it only creates new ones rather than actually solving the problem. Additionally, right now the login screen has no structure and grouping as a consequence of not putting things in a box. The elements all feel disjointed and disconnected, especially the ones jammed into the bottom corners.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAs a result, our designers want to endlessly redesign it, which is a sign that it's not the right design. When the design is correct, designers spontaneously stop wanting to redesign it. I've seen this over and over again.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI just don't think the current design works. What we had before in Plasma 5.7 and earlier was better IMO--and notably, it put everything in a box to ensure contrast with arbitrary backgrounds! I wasn't around back then, so maybe you have the missing context: what were the user complaints and unsolvable problems that the  Plasma 5.7 and earlier login screen presented? Why did we throw it away and replace it with the current 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