for (;;);{"error":null,"payload":{"timeline":"\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-older-transactions-are-hidden\" data-sigil=\"show-older-block\"\u003eThere are a very large number of changes, so older changes are hidden. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/showolder\/PHID-TASK-enagftpowl4bfptlnpil\/?after=185963&quoteTargetID=UQ0_1&quoteRef=T10891\" data-mustcapture=\"1\" data-sigil=\"show-older-link\"\u003eShow Older Changes\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-185963\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_243\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/rqco73wohxakrcsm2m52\/PHID-FILE-zyhktif6eo2vmjvtvg5h\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/abetts\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"185963\" id=\"185963\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_242\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/abetts\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eabetts\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#185963\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_241\"\u003eMay 24 2019, 2:13 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_239\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_240\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_155\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#185961\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_0\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#185961\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/onvitaik\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_1\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@onvitaik\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eSince I saw those crude mockups, I've been changing it with the suggestions I wanted to make plus others. It takes some pages taken from how other DEs do their things and some of my own preferences, while at least still trying to not deviate too wildly from the Plasma look. I've also combined it with some suggested changes to the current system settings application.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e{F6844666}\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e(Text is a bit cut off at the end. It meant to say "as changes would be applied immediately")\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eMost of the reasons for the changes are to the side of the mockup. I wanted to include some other comments, like how child areas need to look more distinct from their parents (It was one of the linked reddit post's complaints: \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/i.imgur.com\/sJ0zE6b.png\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/i.imgur.com\/sJ0zE6b.png\u003c\/a\u003e), but for now...\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI really like how streamlined and focus the UI is. No space seems to be wasted. The header being enclosed with a divider line might be a challenge, but seems to work. The toolbar at the top might be a challenge visually, but we can work on it. Good start.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-185964\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_252\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/jp3luzknmku7uqxtuvo6\/PHID-FILE-xsdcutgttv2nstp3pfh2\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"185964\" id=\"185964\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_251\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#185964\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_250\"\u003eMay 24 2019, 4:15 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_248\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_249\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_156\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#185961\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_2\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#185961\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/onvitaik\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_3\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@onvitaik\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e{F6844666}\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eNeato! Things I like about this:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eToolbar on top of page that has the title on it, instead of the title just floating in the top-left corner of the page\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eTitle is centered rather than left-aligned\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eUse of lighter color on interactive UI controls to distinguish them from the page background\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eUse of buttons with frames instead of frameless toolbuttons\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eVisual changes to comboboxes, sliders, and checkboxes\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eRemoval of OK\/Apply\/etc buttons, which implies the use of the "instant apply" paradigm throughout the settings\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThings I don't like:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eDrop shadows added to UI controls; seems unnecessary\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eThings seem more square; I think the current level of roundedness is fine\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eChanges to sidebar's header; now feels crowded and weird\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-186077\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_261\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/piq6vfb4cpe5jsemvjul\/PHID-FILE-3mvbrqfxjf34k32quxpc\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/onvitaik\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"186077\" id=\"186077\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_260\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/onvitaik\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eonvitaik\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#186077\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_259\"\u003eMay 24 2019, 9:14 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_257\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_258\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_157\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eNice to see it's well-received!\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#185964\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_6\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#185964\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_7\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@ngraham\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThings I don't like:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eDrop shadows added to UI controls; seems unnecessary\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eThings seem more square; I think the current level of roundedness is fine\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eChanges to sidebar's header; now feels crowded and weird\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eDo you mean the buttons specifically? Them looking more square is probably because they're lighter and shorter, as I didn't touch their roundness directly. I did forget to change the drop shadow of the slider pick and the checkboxes, though, and they ended up looking smoother than the rest. They were all meant to combine the shadows with the border like I did for the buttons: left and right sides being lighter than the right and bottom ones to give a small impression of depth. Here are some button variants (The CSS doesn't produce quite the same results):\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/rgrisbtwi7yu3cyf5eay\/PHID-FILE-l7fzgx3jlroi5drou5md\/Buttons.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_4\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/h67qrnxyun6myyjgkmvh\/PHID-FILE-6yrqlmluwvmgwwpq5u5s\/preview-Buttons.png\" width=\"173.22834645669\" height=\"220\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThe changes for the sidebar header weren't meant to crowd it; They were meant to have something the user always know it's there, no matter the page. Right now, once you select something (Workspace Theme, Colors, Fonts...) the search bar and hamburger menu disappear and are replaced with the title and the return button. I don't think you need to hide both of them. Here's another, less crowded mockup:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/lylm5idplvowcxpkubfx\/PHID-FILE-mpjyl6qpdc553wcfsqko\/Sidebar.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_5\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/ti2elvc6kf3lmlrxrzsb\/PHID-FILE-yynyltliz2jyx3pi7lwd\/preview-Sidebar.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"220\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-186101\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_270\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/4n75jpola2tmlybek74i\/PHID-FILE-fwecas6pkkin2q2vypyz\/alphanumeric_aleo-white_M.png-_d9b9ad-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.png)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/mglb\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"186101\" id=\"186101\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_269\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/mglb\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003emglb\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#186101\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_268\"\u003eMay 25 2019, 1:35 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_266\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_267\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_158\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#185961\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_10\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#185961\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/onvitaik\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_12\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@onvitaik\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eSince I saw those crude mockups, I've been changing it with the suggestions I wanted to make plus others. It takes some pages taken from how other DEs do their things and some of my own preferences, while at least still trying to not deviate too wildly from the Plasma look. I've also combined it with some suggested changes to the current system settings application.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e{F6844666}\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e(Text is a bit cut off at the end. It meant to say "as changes would be applied immediately")\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eMost of the reasons for the changes are to the side of the mockup. I wanted to include some other comments, like how child areas need to look more distinct from their parents (It was one of the linked reddit post's complaints: \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/i.imgur.com\/sJ0zE6b.png\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/i.imgur.com\/sJ0zE6b.png\u003c\/a\u003e), but for now...\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eCentered title is awesome!\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eHowever, I see two problems:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eNon-editable combo boxes look like editable combo boxes. It is also possible to confuse buttons and line edits with centered text. The latter is really problematic - line edit can be clicked without any consequences, buttons can't.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eInstantly applied settings:\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eChanging some settings is slow. Some have inconvenient side effects not easy to fix without hacks. E.g. window flags change causes the window to be hidden and shown, what resets some WM properties (desktop, minimized state under X with thumbnails turned on, etc).\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eWould need a lot of work - all applications would need to be adjusted for it. While not really a problem in itself, it would need its own task :)\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eThere should be something to undo the changes.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\n\u003chr class=\"remarkup-hr\" \/\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eMore overall ideas:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eWidgets heights should be somehow unified. Here's Konsole's profile editor without custom code which makes heights equal:\n\u003cbr \/\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/fy5ckrgmokb7vt3asbji\/PHID-FILE-5xqqpialr4p6c3v46ifp\/widgetheights.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image-full\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_8\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/fy5ckrgmokb7vt3asbji\/PHID-FILE-5xqqpialr4p6c3v46ifp\/widgetheights.png\" height=\"427\" width=\"768\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cbr \/\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\nAnother option would be to make custom layout, so this is not something that must be solved in the style.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eButtons related to a field could be joined with the field, like arrow button in combo box. Could be done with a separator like in \u003ca href=\"\/p\/onvitaik\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_11\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@onvitaik\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e's combo and spin boxes. This would make showing on demand possible (like clear in line edit currently).\n\u003cbr \/\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/tgnyo7flykflqhgai2f6\/PHID-FILE-kzxucq5tlzyg5nqdceuq\/joined.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image-full\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_9\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/tgnyo7flykflqhgai2f6\/PHID-FILE-kzxucq5tlzyg5nqdceuq\/joined.png\" height=\"106\" width=\"486\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-186106\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_279\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/piq6vfb4cpe5jsemvjul\/PHID-FILE-3mvbrqfxjf34k32quxpc\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/onvitaik\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"186106\" id=\"186106\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_278\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/onvitaik\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eonvitaik\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#186106\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_277\"\u003eMay 25 2019, 4:09 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_275\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_276\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_159\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#186101\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_13\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#186101\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/mglb\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_16\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@mglb\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eCentered title is awesome!\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eHowever, I see two problems:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eNon-editable combo boxes look like editable combo boxes. It is also possible to confuse buttons and line edits with centered text. The latter is really problematic - line edit can be clicked without any consequences, buttons can't.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eInstantly applied settings:\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eChanging some settings is slow. Some have inconvenient side effects not easy to fix without hacks. E.g. window flags change causes the window to be hidden and shown, what resets some WM properties (desktop, minimized state under X with thumbnails turned on, etc).\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eWould need a lot of work - all applications would need to be adjusted for it. While not really a problem in itself, it would need its own task :)\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eThere should be something to undo the changes.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eYeah, editable combo boxes didn't cross my mind. I think swapping the button look for the line edit look would be enough, as buttons and line edits would differ in how they're displayed. For example, If buttons look like concave, then line edits would look convex.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAs for buttons and line edits with centered text, there could be something inside the latter that shows they're not buttons, like a button to clear the text. OSX shows it differently, by putting small lines on the sides of the line edits, with no clear text button.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eTaking a page from other OSes\/DEs once again, settings changes on Windows, OSX, and Gnome are also instantly applied instantly. Well, not instantly as there might be a delay, but it works well enough that they decided they could safely take out those buttons, and through using all of them for a decent amount of time, I haven't really missed them. Offering a way to undo a change should be limited to settings that can break the way you use the entire DE, like changing resolutions. On the other hand, I think a "reset to defaults" button would be nice. But I digress... This is indeed something that would need its own task.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#186101\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_14\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#186101\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/mglb\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_15\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@mglb\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eMore overall ideas:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eWidgets heights should be somehow unified. Here's Konsole's profile editor without custom code which makes heights equal:\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e{F6847130, size=full}\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThough it's not a unification, changing the button size like I proposed could alleviate this issue, since buttons\/line edits\/etc are the ones that take the most vertical space compared to all other widgets. AFAIK, that's something even other DEs haven't bothered to deal with that issue much (At least from looking at windows, OSX, and Gnome).\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eMy crude solution to those mismatching heights would be to avoid placing widgets with different heights on the same line unless there's no other way. For example, I'd move the "Fixed size" option to the last spot, and place the spin box directly under it.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-186130\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_288\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/qnii5pbirazuzeoefkkz\/PHID-FILE-bitobn2eo6gf6bqgld3x\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/lavender\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"186130\" id=\"186130\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_287\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/lavender\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e lavender\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#186130\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_286\"\u003eMay 25 2019, 11:56 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_284\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_285\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_160\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#186101\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_17\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#186101\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/mglb\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_18\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@mglb\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eMore overall ideas:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eWidgets heights should be somehow unified. Here's Konsole's profile editor without custom code which makes heights equal:\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWhat about adapting the spacing of the view to accommodate the inline widget taking the most height? So in the example all of them would be spaced by 29px. This can work with unification, so it can adapt even to custom widgets. I assume the custom code you're referring to achieves something like this, maybe that should be generalized.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-186175\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_297\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/4n75jpola2tmlybek74i\/PHID-FILE-fwecas6pkkin2q2vypyz\/alphanumeric_aleo-white_M.png-_d9b9ad-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.png)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/mglb\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"186175\" id=\"186175\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_296\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/mglb\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003emglb\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#186175\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_295\"\u003eMay 26 2019, 8:37 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_293\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_294\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_161\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#186106\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_19\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#186106\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/onvitaik\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_24\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@onvitaik\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eAs for buttons and line edits with centered text, there could be something inside the latter that shows they're not buttons, like a button to clear the text. OSX shows it differently, by putting small lines on the sides of the line edits, with no clear text button.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI just realized line edit and button in macOS are both white and have similar size :) But they have different corner radius and are sunken\/raised, respectively. I wonder how would it look in KDE.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eThough it's not a unification, changing the button size like I proposed could alleviate this issue, since buttons\/line edits\/etc are the ones that take the most vertical space compared to all other widgets.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI guess buttons and inputs will never be as small as checkboxes (even on the screenshot there is 26px for inputs and 16px+shadow for checkboxes), but checkbox\/radio button can have larger margins.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eMy crude solution to those mismatching heights would be to avoid placing widgets with different heights on the same line unless there's no other way. For example, I'd move the "Fixed size" option to the last spot, and place the spin box directly under it.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIt is default option, hence it is first. Separate line is best when possible, but sometimes it looks weird (e.g. 50px wide color selector button)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#186130\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_21\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#186130\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/lavender\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_22\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-dot phui-tag-color-grey\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e@lavender\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#186101\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_20\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#186101\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/mglb\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_23\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@mglb\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eMore overall ideas:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eWidgets heights should be somehow unified. Here's Konsole's profile editor without custom code which makes heights equal:\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWhat about adapting the spacing of the view to accommodate the inline widget taking the most height? So in the example all of them would be spaced by 29px. This can work with unification, so it can adapt even to custom widgets. I assume the custom code you're referring to achieves something like this, maybe that should be generalized.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIf you mean automatically adjusting rows with checkboxes and radio buttons, this could be nice. However, I see some possible technical problems (sizeHint() races as the size depends on other elements, etc).\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-186191\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_306\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/rqco73wohxakrcsm2m52\/PHID-FILE-zyhktif6eo2vmjvtvg5h\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/abetts\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"186191\" id=\"186191\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_305\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/abetts\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eabetts\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#186191\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_304\"\u003eMay 26 2019, 2:46 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_302\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_303\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_162\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eWould it be "too" crazy to want the checkboxes background to be white? I think they bring nice contrast to the page and sets the checkbox apart.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-186265\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_315\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/3dbhidnnfh3aroqncvzv\/PHID-FILE-qci5pogfokjw3ykbnzee\/b27d7a-alphanumeric_aleo-white_M.png-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.3.png)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/michaldybczak\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"186265\" id=\"186265\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_314\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/michaldybczak\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003emichaldybczak\u003c\/a\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/michaldybczak\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_163\"\u003emichaldybczak\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#186265\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_313\"\u003eMay 26 2019, 7:46 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_311\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_312\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_164\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI second to the white background on checkboxes. The white background suggests it's clickable, active. Gray or the same background as the other window suggests as if it was inactive for some reason.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-186267\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_324\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/qnii5pbirazuzeoefkkz\/PHID-FILE-bitobn2eo6gf6bqgld3x\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/lavender\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"186267\" id=\"186267\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_323\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/lavender\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e lavender\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#186267\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_322\"\u003eMay 26 2019, 8:05 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_320\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_321\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_165\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#186175\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_25\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#186175\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/mglb\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_26\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@mglb\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eIf you mean automatically adjusting rows with checkboxes and radio buttons, this could be nice. However, I see some possible technical problems (sizeHint() races as the size depends on other elements, etc).\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eA \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/doc.qt.io\/qt-5\/qtwidgets-layouts-flowlayout-example.html\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ecustom Qt layout similar to this one\u003c\/a\u003e could work.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-186433\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_327\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/4n75jpola2tmlybek74i\/PHID-FILE-fwecas6pkkin2q2vypyz\/alphanumeric_aleo-white_M.png-_d9b9ad-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.png)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/mglb\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"186433\" id=\"186433\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_326\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/mglb\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003emglb\u003c\/a\u003e mentioned this in \u003ca href=\"\/T10997\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\"\u003eT10997: Improve check box design\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#186433\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_325\"\u003eMay 27 2019, 8:05 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-186436\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_330\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/4n75jpola2tmlybek74i\/PHID-FILE-fwecas6pkkin2q2vypyz\/alphanumeric_aleo-white_M.png-_d9b9ad-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.png)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/mglb\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"186436\" id=\"186436\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_329\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/mglb\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003emglb\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-gcexwmp54ayoaqt\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#186436\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_328\"\u003eMay 27 2019, 8:09 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-186460\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_333\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/jp3luzknmku7uqxtuvo6\/PHID-FILE-xsdcutgttv2nstp3pfh2\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"186460\" id=\"186460\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_332\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e added a subtask: \u003ca href=\"\/T10997\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\"\u003eT10997: Improve check box design\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#186460\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_331\"\u003eMay 28 2019, 4:34 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-186798\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_342\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/jp3luzknmku7uqxtuvo6\/PHID-FILE-xsdcutgttv2nstp3pfh2\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"186798\" id=\"186798\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_341\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#186798\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_340\"\u003eJun 1 2019, 9:59 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_338\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_339\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_166\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eHere's another idea I've heard bandied about: create new "whitespace" and "expanding whitespace" items that can be added to toolbars so it's possible to have layouts of toolbar buttons that are centered or justified rather than left-aligned, and that use whitespace to separate logical groups rather than vertical separators. macOS has had this for ages and it results in some very aesthetically pleasing toolbars IMO:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/ot52ncksoaf4vu3wlw4v\/PHID-FILE-olgk4h7xtrou7bwhy6dr\/pin-apps-mac-finder-toolbar.jpg\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_27\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/cunjtxnnhzqxwoh3v4j4\/PHID-FILE-qlnsediuwsfi4dhmauzk\/preview-pin-apps-mac-finder-toolbar.jpg\" width=\"220\" height=\"55\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/kyg72enl7x5ss6c3gidv\/PHID-FILE-v5t4obuuycycltjtv4cf\/1d9fc6962c5dce653c58b916911c3c1f.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" 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class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-186802\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_351\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/q7o7zc3d66245rw5rti6\/PHID-FILE-ypocx4xpzqe54rziu5yp\/b4c4ad-alphanumeric_lato-white_S.png-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.png)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/safaalfulaij\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"186802\" id=\"186802\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_350\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/safaalfulaij\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003esafaalfulaij\u003c\/a\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/safaalfulaij\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_167\"\u003esafaalfulaij\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#186802\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_349\"\u003eJun 1 2019, 10:37 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_347\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_348\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_168\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eAnd what would happen to menus? How will that centered toolbar look with menus on the left?\u003cbr \/\u003e\nHow it will work with KDevelop for example?\u003cbr \/\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/ienyrl7pcwbicsh3qkhm\/PHID-FILE-zy3wqflmvo7bustihh3d\/image.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_30\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/mngthlm6dzlm5wpsf7ep\/PHID-FILE-7paxeonqbxoakyfrenkb\/preview-image.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"144.27612655801\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\nOr Krita?\u003cbr \/\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/x3te7kpqyfb5mktpqrux\/PHID-FILE-v2g2atnvkyqxcflpzkm7\/image.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_31\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/wy5erz3h4ph7o3l2zldt\/PHID-FILE-5fivllaqvdbiqvqro27q\/preview-image.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"156.19335347432\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWhat about changing a thing almost +80% of people are used to? (Windows\/Linux)\u003cbr \/\u003e\nThink about how many bug reports and how social media\/reddit\/news sites will react to this. Think about frustration. Think about standards. Think about <You name it>.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003etbh, I see that this "evolution" is almost like killing every single thing people have learnt through the several past decades, with no real real benefit. Just simplifying what is already simple. Complicated UIs? Not my thing. I'd prefer working on my store software that many don't even use.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAnd one more thing, please please please, think about medium\/large scaled software before changing anything. You can have nothing for a simple calculator (not even KCalc), but what about digiKam\/KDevelop\/Kdenlive\/Krita\/KStars\/PIM suite?\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThank you.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-186804\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_360\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/jp3luzknmku7uqxtuvo6\/PHID-FILE-xsdcutgttv2nstp3pfh2\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"186804\" id=\"186804\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_359\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#186804\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_358\"\u003eJun 1 2019, 11:31 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_356\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_357\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_169\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#186802\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_34\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#186802\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/safaalfulaij\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_35\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@safaalfulaij\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eAnd what would happen to menus? How will that centered toolbar look with menus on the left?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eProbably better, because you won't have all the UI elements clustered on the left with a bunch of whitespace on the right. However I want to emphasize that the "separate the toolbar button groups with whitespace" idea is just that: an idea. And if it were implemented, it would be optional rather than replacing vertical separators (we're KDE, after all!) and presumably would only be adopted in the apps where it makes sense. If it looks bad, you don't use it. If it looks good, you use it. Simple as that.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eHow it will work with KDevelop for example?\u003cbr \/\u003e\n \u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/ienyrl7pcwbicsh3qkhm\/PHID-FILE-zy3wqflmvo7bustihh3d\/image.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_32\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/mngthlm6dzlm5wpsf7ep\/PHID-FILE-7paxeonqbxoakyfrenkb\/preview-image.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"144.27612655801\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\n Or Krita?\u003cbr \/\u003e\n \u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/x3te7kpqyfb5mktpqrux\/PHID-FILE-v2g2atnvkyqxcflpzkm7\/image.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_33\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/wy5erz3h4ph7o3l2zldt\/PHID-FILE-5fivllaqvdbiqvqro27q\/preview-image.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"156.19335347432\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003ePresumably these apps wouldn't adopt them because they're already crammed with buttons and there's no whitespace left. Also these are super extreme examples. Pro apps have different needs from other apps.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eWhat about changing a thing almost +80% of people are used to? (Windows\/Linux)\u003cbr \/\u003e\n Think about how many bug reports and how social media\/reddit\/news sites will react to this. Think about frustration. Think about standards. Think about <You name it>.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eActually, people are already frustrated with the KDE-style UI design. I hear this \u003cem\u003econstantly\u003c\/em\u003e. It's "dated". It's "clunky", it's "designed by programmers". And so on. This effort aims to fix that. But we're not doing it to make people on social media happy; rather, people on social media have in this case identified a real problem. We're doing it with the goal of fixing that problem, not with making people happy. We hope that will happen as a side effect. :)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003etbh, I see that this "evolution" is almost like killing every single thing people have learnt through the several past decades, with no real real benefit. Just simplifying what is already simple. Complicated UIs? Not my thing. I'd prefer working on my store software that many don't even use.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eNot sure what you mean by this, really. Our "Windows\/Linux" competitors already implement most or all of the proposed changes: no extra borders around windows; left sidebars separated from the content view with a single-pixel line; a unified title and toolbar area; checkboxes with checkmarks in them; window shadows that get smaller for inactive windows. These changes will makes things better for UI familiarity, not worse.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eAnd one more thing, please please please, think about medium\/large scaled software before changing anything. You can have nothing for a simple calculator (not even KCalc), but what about digiKam\/KDevelop\/Kdenlive\/Krita\/KStars\/PIM suite?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAbsolutely. Thankfully, as previously mentioned, most of the changes we're proposing don't impact those kinds of apps at all, or impact them in only small positive ways (IMO).\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eThank you.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eYou're welcome!\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-186805\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_369\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/qcjudm2kkez2ax3pnzm2\/PHID-FILE-bvswkxe6vcahd7kegqfc\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ndavis\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"186805\" id=\"186805\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_368\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ndavis\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003endavis\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#186805\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_367\"\u003eJun 2 2019, 2:10 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_365\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_366\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_170\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#186798\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_36\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#186798\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_37\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@ngraham\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eHere's another idea I've heard bandied about: create new "whitespace" and "expanding whitespace" items that can be added to toolbars so it's possible to have layouts of toolbar buttons that are centered or justified rather than left-aligned, and that use whitespace to separate logical groups rather than vertical separators. macOS has had this for ages and it results in some very aesthetically pleasing toolbars IMO:\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e+1, that's a great idea. What is the difference between "whitespace" and "expanding whitespace" though? Is the former a fixed width? If so, when would we use that instead of a separator?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-186806\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_378\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/jp3luzknmku7uqxtuvo6\/PHID-FILE-xsdcutgttv2nstp3pfh2\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"186806\" id=\"186806\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_377\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#186806\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_376\"\u003eJun 2 2019, 2:49 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_374\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_375\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_171\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#186805\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_39\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#186805\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/ndavis\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_41\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@ndavis\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#186798\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_38\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#186798\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_42\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@ngraham\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eHere's another idea I've heard bandied about: create new "whitespace" and "expanding whitespace" items that can be added to toolbars so it's possible to have layouts of toolbar buttons that are centered or justified rather than left-aligned, and that use whitespace to separate logical groups rather than vertical separators. macOS has had this for ages and it results in some very aesthetically pleasing toolbars IMO:\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e+1, that's a great idea. What is the difference between "whitespace" and "expanding whitespace" though? Is the former a fixed width? If so, when would we use that instead of a separator?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eCorrect. The idea would be to use it instead of a vertical line separator when there's plenty of room in the toolbar. But for really packed toolbars, as \u003ca href=\"\/p\/safaalfulaij\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_40\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@safaalfulaij\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e brings up, the existing vertical line separators would be better. Heck maybe the whitespace separator could even turn into a line separator when the window is resized to be very narrow.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-186813\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_388\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/3dbhidnnfh3aroqncvzv\/PHID-FILE-qci5pogfokjw3ykbnzee\/b27d7a-alphanumeric_aleo-white_M.png-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.3.png)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/michaldybczak\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"186813\" id=\"186813\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_387\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/michaldybczak\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003emichaldybczak\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003eEdited\u003cspan class=\"visual-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"#186813\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_386\"\u003eJun 2 2019, 7:26 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_384\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_385\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_172\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI love this whitespace\/expanding whitespace idea. It looks like I have a very similar sense of aesthetics as Nate so I'm agreeing with all his posts above. Kvantum themes can group toolbar buttons already and then the screenshots usually make a huge impression because with so many changes the whole Plasma feel is strongly altered, so people complaining about KDE look or those preferring Gtk look are interested in it, because it finally looks more in line what they are expecting.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI like the default Breeze look and I think it's quite modern and good but it has its lacks and I do agree that in many cases Gtk look is superior (when the look on a case of a singular app, in overall Gtk theming, is an inconsistent disaster), so those Ned's proposals are heading in the right direction. And of course, as he said, those elements would be optional and probably not the default (at least not for some time).\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWith so many theming changes it would be nice to prepare a good wiki article about Plasma theming because currently, this is a steep and very frustrating learning curve for newbies. Each DE has its own ideas and implementation of how theming is applied and this creates even greater confusion if someone already got used to Gnome's or XFCE's style of theming. It's hard to wrap around what setting influences what so people are lost. Us, long time Plasma users, feel comfortable and we can adjust Plasma to our liking so Breeze limitations are not an issue, but for many if not the most, this level of expertise is not possible to achieve in short time so people often bounce off and go back to DE they were used to.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-186851\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_398\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/wkhq2ierpcb3vmqifytv\/PHID-FILE-zimnfjwwl5q2prauqrad\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/felixernst\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"186851\" id=\"186851\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_397\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/felixernst\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003efelixernst\u003c\/a\u003e added subscribers: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/broulik\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_173\"\u003ebroulik\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/felixernst\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_174\"\u003efelixernst\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003eEdited\u003cspan class=\"visual-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"#186851\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_396\"\u003eJun 2 2019, 9:54 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_394\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_395\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_175\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#186798\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_43\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#186798\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_47\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@ngraham\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eHere's another idea I've heard bandied about: create new "whitespace" and "expanding whitespace" items\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI am a big proponent of expanding whitespaces and have suggested one six weeks ago in regards to Dolphin (\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/forum.kde.org\/viewtopic.php?f=285&t=160318&p=415775#p415775\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehere\u003c\/a\u003e). Back then two people total commented on the "expanding whitespace" in particular:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/matrix.to\/#\/!oTFFnNIxPZiYAtLzVH:matrix.org\/$1555845397351311YKFKe:matrix.org?via=matrix.org&via=kde.org&via=tchncs.de\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ethe VDG chatroom on IRC\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/broulik\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_46\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@broulik\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote: \u003cbr \/\u003e\nI like the split tool bar, since it also makes it more consistent with the file dialog.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/forum.kde.org\/viewtopic.php?f=285&t=160318&p=415775#p415908\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ea forum thread\u003c\/a\u003e, long-standing forum member \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/forum.kde.org\/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=2877\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003eairdrik\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003cbr \/\u003e\nI like the spacer idea and would suggest that be made available for all applications.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eOutside of Dolphin as well I think expanding whitespaces are in many cases the easiest way to make the user interface more clear\/overseeable.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#186806\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_44\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#186806\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_45\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@ngraham\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eHeck maybe the whitespace separator could even turn into a line separator when the window is resized to be very narrow.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e+1. Whitespaces communicate an arguably stronger separation than the existing line separators. This separation should not get lost when the whitespace size becomes very small.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-187372\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_402\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/jp3luzknmku7uqxtuvo6\/PHID-FILE-xsdcutgttv2nstp3pfh2\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"187372\" id=\"187372\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-shield phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_400\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e closed subtask \u003ca href=\"\/T8707\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\"\u003eT8707: Window borders\u003c\/a\u003e as \u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-value\"\u003eResolved\u003c\/span\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#187372\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_399\"\u003eJun 6 2019, 8:54 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_401\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-ddlxpb3wxzyzohh\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-187390\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_411\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/zq2afmcql24viyb74eso\/PHID-FILE-45hgda4zv4opfxcj2hdn\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/cblack\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"187390\" id=\"187390\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_410\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/cblack\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003ecblack\u003c\/a\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/cblack\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_176\"\u003ecblack\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#187390\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_409\"\u003eJun 7 2019, 12:10 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_407\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_408\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_177\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eNot sure if this is the right thread, but here goes.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI feel like while we're tweaking Breeze's design, we should take a look at the colours in some more detail.\u003cbr \/\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/no76qyaltojlqfitqg4l\/PHID-FILE-flvblgn7v6hbipmt5r3h\/Current_Light_v_Current_Dark.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_48\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/vlg2vk5judtmeckhhcld\/PHID-FILE-mrk3m3o5tg5b2ph6tv77\/preview-Current_Light_v_Current_Dark.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"107.8431372549\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\nThe same accent colours are shared between the default Breeze Light & Breeze Dark themes. However, the same colours in the Breeze Dark themes have a greater "pop" to them, and this is especially noticeable in applications that use accent colours on large surfaces. (See: Virtualbox)\u003cbr \/\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/azjle5kjguhqw7zwh3l7\/PHID-FILE-in2t3v2sovwbmqrpr2ua\/Proposed_Dark.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_49\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/5i5vxlsmbkitxnlj6qn4\/PHID-FILE-bu6xlwoya2hbus2ca5bu\/preview-Proposed_Dark.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"220\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\nMaking the colors slightly paler or less saturated increases contrast against the dark background while also making their pairing with the dark background feel more similar to the pairing of their brighter equivalent with the light background.\u003cbr \/\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/zmioiy2cin4iuidhcbqe\/PHID-FILE-eeuunmubykli4ryz7puw\/discover_pale.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_50\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/uzl4kr23wqvgo5ett6oz\/PHID-FILE-2xgaw46hifokbxdafflp\/preview-discover_pale.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"170.84375\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\n\u003cem\u003eDiscover w\/ Breeze Dark & Paler Colors\u003cbr \/\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/7fp5fwyv43vpfcucfdor\/PHID-FILE-zpqp5l7wrd4migjzsrn3\/discover_light.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_51\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/ygd62srwajyzwv6sbioi\/PHID-FILE-oy3l6baeb35eqhzrjmda\/preview-discover_light.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"170.84375\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\n\u003c\/em\u003e\u003cem\u003eDiscover w\/ Breeze Default\u003c\/em\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/3iceopza3mv4y7k5ooyf\/PHID-FILE-57vg7jkwmbbp7ovok5dl\/discover_not_pale.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_52\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/ylljt7bu7jtk2aps3mjb\/PHID-FILE-ltotgxxdrg4jiyispnzz\/preview-discover_not_pale.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"170.84375\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\n\u003cem\u003eDiscover w\/ Breeze Dark\u003c\/em\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eNotice how the paler version visually appears more similar to the light version despite the light version and the default version technically being based off of the same colour.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-187392\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_420\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/77tieb4kxtu24aw2o6hv\/PHID-FILE-mfip3kgkkabxggbly4tk\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/filipf\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"187392\" id=\"187392\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_419\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/filipf\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003efilipf\u003c\/a\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/filipf\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_178\"\u003efilipf\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#187392\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_418\"\u003eJun 7 2019, 12:35 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_416\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_417\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_179\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e^ This is definitely something we should also talk about. I wholeheartedly agree that we don't need to have the exact same colors in Breeze and Breeze Dark. The blue highlight color in particular can be quite blaring in Breeze Dark. That's why I toned it down in this sort of beta of what a new Breeze Dark might look like: \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/www.pling.com\/p\/1304099\/\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/www.pling.com\/p\/1304099\/\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eBut the thought of paler colors didn't cross my mind, seems interesting. I'll have to play with that once I get to testing colors again.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-187434\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_423\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/tvjbe7lm6bdlijwbzevf\/PHID-FILE-vkbhr7b2bo2a7eoblajo\/65558f-alphanumeric_lato-dark_M.png-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.png)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/marcusgu\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"187434\" id=\"187434\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_422\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/marcusgu\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003emarcusgu\u003c\/a\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/marcusgu\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_180\"\u003emarcusgu\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#187434\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_421\"\u003eJun 7 2019, 11:18 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-187605\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_432\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/qnii5pbirazuzeoefkkz\/PHID-FILE-bitobn2eo6gf6bqgld3x\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/lavender\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"187605\" id=\"187605\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_431\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/lavender\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e lavender\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#187605\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_430\"\u003eJun 10 2019, 1:05 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_428\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_429\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_181\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI created \u003ca href=\"\/T11052\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_53\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT11052\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e to discuss the idea of an Accent Color system and related components for Plasma.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-187759\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_436\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/jp3luzknmku7uqxtuvo6\/PHID-FILE-xsdcutgttv2nstp3pfh2\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"187759\" id=\"187759\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_434\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e added a subtask: \u003ca href=\"\/T11052\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\"\u003eT11052: Accent Colors, Color Ramps and other improvements to theming.\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#187759\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_433\"\u003eJun 10 2019, 6:07 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_435\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e added a subtask: \u003ca href=\"\/T10046\" class=\"phui-handle\"\u003eT10046: Improve the colors, color consistency and colorscheme compatibility of Breeze\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-187828\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_445\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/4n75jpola2tmlybek74i\/PHID-FILE-fwecas6pkkin2q2vypyz\/alphanumeric_aleo-white_M.png-_d9b9ad-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.png)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/mglb\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"187828\" id=\"187828\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_444\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/mglb\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003emglb\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#187828\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_443\"\u003eJun 10 2019, 10:32 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_441\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_442\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_182\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#186798\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_54\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#186798\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_55\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@ngraham\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eHere's another idea I've heard bandied about: create new "whitespace" and "expanding whitespace" items that can be added to toolbars so it's possible to have layouts of toolbar buttons that are centered or justified rather than left-aligned, and that use whitespace to separate logical groups rather than vertical separators. macOS has had this for ages and it results in some very aesthetically pleasing toolbars IMO:\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAnother implementation idea for the same effect, with support for multiple toolbars (per line):\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eSplit each toolbar slot into left\/center\/right slots (or top\/middle\/bottom)\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eAlign toolbars depending on which slot they are put it\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eKind of like panels, but with alignment instead of expanding.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eHowever, new implementation of ToolbarAreaLayout (i.e. code for docking toolbars and moving\/aligning them) would be needed.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003chr class=\"remarkup-hr\" \/\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAs for colors, making primary\/selection color a bit darker would be awesome. \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/webaim.org\/resources\/contrastchecker\/?fcolor=FFFFFF&bcolor=3DAEE9\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003eWhite text on plasma blue has low contrast\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cbr \/\u003e\nAlternatively, the text color can be changed to black, but this doesn't look so cool.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-187868\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_454\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/jp3luzknmku7uqxtuvo6\/PHID-FILE-xsdcutgttv2nstp3pfh2\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"187868\" id=\"187868\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_453\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#187868\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_452\"\u003eJun 10 2019, 11:33 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_450\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_451\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_183\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#187828\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_56\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#187828\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/mglb\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_57\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@mglb\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eAs for colors, making primary\/selection color a bit darker would be awesome. \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/webaim.org\/resources\/contrastchecker\/?fcolor=FFFFFF&bcolor=3DAEE9\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003eWhite text on plasma blue has low contrast\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cbr \/\u003e\n Alternatively, the text color can be changed to black, but this doesn't look so cool.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis is probably a pretty easy fix that we could get in very quickly. Personally I'm partial to the more subtle pastel blue used for Plasma selection highlights and as the background for the informational KMessageWidget\/Kirigami InlineMessage messages, where the text stays black. As another bonus, adopting this color would reduce the unnecessary visual distinctiveness between Plasma and KDE apps.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-188084\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_463\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/rqco73wohxakrcsm2m52\/PHID-FILE-zyhktif6eo2vmjvtvg5h\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/abetts\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"188084\" id=\"188084\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_462\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/abetts\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eabetts\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#188084\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_461\"\u003eJun 11 2019, 3:10 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_459\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_460\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_184\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#187868\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_59\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#187868\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_60\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@ngraham\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#187828\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_58\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#187828\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/mglb\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_61\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@mglb\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eAs for colors, making primary\/selection color a bit darker would be awesome. \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/webaim.org\/resources\/contrastchecker\/?fcolor=FFFFFF&bcolor=3DAEE9\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003eWhite text on plasma blue has low contrast\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cbr \/\u003e\n Alternatively, the text color can be changed to black, but this doesn't look so cool.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis is probably a pretty easy fix that we could get in very quickly. Personally I'm partial to the more subtle pastel blue used for Plasma selection highlights and as the background for the informational KMessageWidget\/Kirigami InlineMessage messages, where the text stays black. As another bonus, adopting this color would reduce the unnecessary visual distinctiveness between Plasma and KDE apps.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI would agree. Long ago, I made some mockups where I discussed the state of highlights in KDE (a much older version) and noticed the color inconsistency across apps, not only that, also noted the shape and application differences. If we find a way to make them more consistent, we should go for it.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-188137\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_472\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/itefjfu7vlrzgda2qrc2\/PHID-FILE-bwlgy7sjlhkexdrppj7o\/alphanumeric_aleo-white_P.png-_814a28-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.3.png)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/pettke\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"188137\" id=\"188137\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_471\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/pettke\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003epettke\u003c\/a\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/pettke\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_185\"\u003epettke\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#188137\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_470\"\u003eJun 11 2019, 11:49 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_468\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_469\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_186\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#185961\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_64\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#185961\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/onvitaik\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_67\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@onvitaik\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eSince I saw those crude mockups, I've been changing it with the suggestions I wanted to make plus others. It takes some pages taken from how other DEs do their things and some of my own preferences, while at least still trying to not deviate too wildly from the Plasma look. I've also combined it with some suggested changes to the current system settings application.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003e{F6844666}\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eConcerning the more compact buttons (as well as combo boxes etc.): they used to be more compact in the Oxygen era, but IIRC they were enlarged with the development of Breeze to make them more touch friendly and faster to interact with in general (see \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Fitts%27s_law\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Fitts%27s_law\u003c\/a\u003e)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#186802\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_65\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#186802\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/safaalfulaij\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_66\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@safaalfulaij\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eAnd what would happen to menus? How will that centered toolbar look with menus on the left?\u003cbr \/\u003e\n How it will work with KDevelop for example?\u003cbr \/\u003e\n \u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/ienyrl7pcwbicsh3qkhm\/PHID-FILE-zy3wqflmvo7bustihh3d\/image.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_62\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/mngthlm6dzlm5wpsf7ep\/PHID-FILE-7paxeonqbxoakyfrenkb\/preview-image.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"144.27612655801\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\n Or Krita?\u003cbr \/\u003e\n \u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/x3te7kpqyfb5mktpqrux\/PHID-FILE-v2g2atnvkyqxcflpzkm7\/image.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_63\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/wy5erz3h4ph7o3l2zldt\/PHID-FILE-5fivllaqvdbiqvqro27q\/preview-image.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"156.19335347432\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eKrita actually already provides whitespaces and expanding spacers for toolbar configuration in addition to the regular line separators. If you take a closer look at the Krita screenshot, in the toolbar there is one element at the right separated from all the other ones by an expanding spacer.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eBesides, I'd also like to +1 the "hybrid separator" which switches between line and spacer depending on the available space :)\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-188837\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_475\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/jp3luzknmku7uqxtuvo6\/PHID-FILE-xsdcutgttv2nstp3pfh2\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"188837\" id=\"188837\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_474\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-j2g7lj4kzc3ddhd\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#188837\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_473\"\u003eJun 14 2019, 4:43 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-189275\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_478\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/4tns6luwbwmz3mjzkiia\/PHID-FILE-ixs343jrzquqvfmwfnjq\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/sbergeron\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"189275\" id=\"189275\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_477\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/sbergeron\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003esbergeron\u003c\/a\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/sbergeron\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_187\"\u003esbergeron\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#189275\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_476\"\u003eJun 17 2019, 8:58 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-189516\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_481\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/jp3luzknmku7uqxtuvo6\/PHID-FILE-xsdcutgttv2nstp3pfh2\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"189516\" id=\"189516\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_480\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e added a subtask: \u003ca href=\"\/T11124\" class=\"phui-handle\"\u003eT11124: Unify highlight effect style\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#189516\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_479\"\u003eJun 20 2019, 3:11 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-189731\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_484\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/3ynf5sxjtxz2z35mtzoi\/PHID-FILE-5i5yqdustv7w53czwpqh\/86a779-alphanumeric_lato-white_D.png-255%2C255%2C255%2C0.4.png)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/davidre\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"189731\" id=\"189731\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_483\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/davidre\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003edavidre\u003c\/a\u003e added a subtask: \u003ca href=\"\/T11132\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\"\u003eT11132: Revisit Panel highlight effects \u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#189731\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_482\"\u003eJun 22 2019, 3:11 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-189816\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_493\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/nuylgslncg2thotjdhik\/PHID-FILE-5ha7k5ti6lqhsim6cm3i\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/niccolove\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"189816\" id=\"189816\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_492\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/niccolove\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eniccolove\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#189816\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_491\"\u003eJun 23 2019, 11:54 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_489\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_490\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_188\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eShould \u003ca href=\"\/T10243\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_68\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10243\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, which is about redoing many Breeze icons, be a subtask of this as well?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-190356\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_497\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/jp3luzknmku7uqxtuvo6\/PHID-FILE-xsdcutgttv2nstp3pfh2\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"190356\" id=\"190356\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_495\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e added a subtask: \u003ca href=\"\/T11153\" class=\"phui-handle\"\u003eT11153: Unify sidebar appearance\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#190356\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_494\"\u003eJun 28 2019, 12:37 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_496\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e removed a subtask: \u003ca href=\"\/T10165\" class=\"phui-handle\"\u003eT10165: Large category icons should all be colorful\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-190363\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_500\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/jp3luzknmku7uqxtuvo6\/PHID-FILE-xsdcutgttv2nstp3pfh2\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"190363\" id=\"190363\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_499\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e removed a revision: \u003ca href=\"\/D20908\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\"\u003eD20908: Redesign QML applet configuration windows\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#190363\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_498\"\u003eJun 28 2019, 12:40 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-190368\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_503\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/jp3luzknmku7uqxtuvo6\/PHID-FILE-xsdcutgttv2nstp3pfh2\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"190368\" id=\"190368\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_502\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e added a subtask: \u003ca href=\"\/T9126\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\"\u003eT9126: Breeze scrollbar look-and-feel unification\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#190368\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_501\"\u003eJun 28 2019, 1:05 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-191818\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_512\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/gzynu3wbas5rkmb22per\/PHID-FILE-oao5ivl6dzhfo733j6j2\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/rikshaw\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"191818\" id=\"191818\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_511\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/rikshaw\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003erikshaw\u003c\/a\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/rikshaw\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_189\"\u003erikshaw\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#191818\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_510\"\u003eJul 15 2019, 6:35 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_508\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_509\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_190\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_71\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@ngraham\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e I have been tracking this for a while but finally created an account to contribute some comments. As a newcomer to KDE from gnome-based desktops I am reliant on apps like firefox and thunderbird. The GTK Breeze theme has some minor usability issues with tabs in these apps. See these screenshots:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/z2upopvpqimts4q6tyww\/PHID-FILE-swpgspghdv4cwvbbto72\/Firefox-Breeze.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_69\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/nw462ijnozpnbzl4bcbe\/PHID-FILE-ct5xmvssmpfxuf7uussc\/preview-Firefox-Breeze.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"55\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eFirefox is decent with Breeze, but it is hard at quick glance to visually separate the active tab from the other tabs. There is a blue bar at the top, but better would be to darken the color of the inactive tabs. It would help to not be so disorienting. Note I am using "Firefox Containers" which is why all the blue lines are at the bottom of the tabs.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/d5ryp2ymqpzq7ezjczsq\/PHID-FILE-timapi7trcqk7ivgeoow\/Thunderbird-Breeze.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_70\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/4oxvuhcize2kdkznyy6h\/PHID-FILE-eykc5ucg5qr5j62kbrtl\/preview-Thunderbird-Breeze.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"55\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThunderbird is harder to differentiate the tabs. There is no line at the bottom of inactive tabs so it is really hard to tell what is active and what isn't: again only the blue line at the top of the active tab lets you know that, but at quick glance it is hard to pick up.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThanks for looking at things that will make Breeze the "go to theme" for cross-toolkit apps to give them the unified look that Linux deserves!\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-191828\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_521\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/jp3luzknmku7uqxtuvo6\/PHID-FILE-xsdcutgttv2nstp3pfh2\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"191828\" id=\"191828\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_520\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/mthw\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_191\"\u003emthw\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#191828\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_519\"\u003eJul 15 2019, 7:29 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_517\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_518\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_192\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI sure hope so! Yeah, we're working on that particular issue too. \u003ca href=\"\/p\/mthw\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_72\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@mthw\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e may be interested in this!\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-191830\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_530\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/zq2afmcql24viyb74eso\/PHID-FILE-45hgda4zv4opfxcj2hdn\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/cblack\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"191830\" id=\"191830\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_529\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/cblack\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003ecblack\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#191830\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_528\"\u003eJul 15 2019, 8:05 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_526\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_527\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_193\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThere's something I've noticed that's inconsistent between applications - how loading is represented. There's not really any consistency at all, excluding Kirigami applications.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eSome examples:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eDolphin blanks the view while loading a directory\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eKate also remains blank, but sets the cursor to a loading animation\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eKirigami applications use a spinning \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003eview-refresh\u003c\/tt\u003e icon in their list views when loading (see: Discover and its tendencies to load indefinitely)\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eKMail uses plain loading bars wherever it feels like it\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eSystemsettings5 freezes the view and sets the cursor to a loading animation\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eKDE Help uses freezes the view and shows a message in the bottom left corner\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eThe icon selection dialog used in places such as editing application entries freezes the view, shows a loading bar, and sets the cursor to loading.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThere's plenty more inconsistency, but there's too much to list all in a single place.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-191854\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_539\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/gtjw23rqzo37nn7fta4h\/PHID-FILE-qqdqxb4un65elrsw3g6w\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/mthw\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"191854\" id=\"191854\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_538\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/mthw\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003emthw\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#191854\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_537\"\u003eJul 16 2019, 8:42 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_535\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_536\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_194\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#191818\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_75\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#191818\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/rikshaw\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_76\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@rikshaw\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_77\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@ngraham\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e I have been tracking this for a while but finally created an account to contribute some comments. As a newcomer to KDE from gnome-based desktops I am reliant on apps like firefox and thunderbird. The GTK Breeze theme has some minor usability issues with tabs in these apps. See these screenshots:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/z2upopvpqimts4q6tyww\/PHID-FILE-swpgspghdv4cwvbbto72\/Firefox-Breeze.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_73\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/nw462ijnozpnbzl4bcbe\/PHID-FILE-ct5xmvssmpfxuf7uussc\/preview-Firefox-Breeze.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"55\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eFirefox is decent with Breeze, but it is hard at quick glance to visually separate the active tab from the other tabs. There is a blue bar at the top, but better would be to darken the color of the inactive tabs. It would help to not be so disorienting. Note I am using "Firefox Containers" which is why all the blue lines are at the bottom of the tabs.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/d5ryp2ymqpzq7ezjczsq\/PHID-FILE-timapi7trcqk7ivgeoow\/Thunderbird-Breeze.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_74\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/4oxvuhcize2kdkznyy6h\/PHID-FILE-eykc5ucg5qr5j62kbrtl\/preview-Thunderbird-Breeze.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"55\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThunderbird is harder to differentiate the tabs. There is no line at the bottom of inactive tabs so it is really hard to tell what is active and what isn't: again only the blue line at the top of the active tab lets you know that, but at quick glance it is hard to pick up.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThanks for looking at things that will make Breeze the "go to theme" for cross-toolkit apps to give them the unified look that Linux deserves!\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI see two solutions for this problem:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003col class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eUse CSDs and fix text color on non-selected tabs (something I am trying to fix - but might be a bug in Firefox \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1461650\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1461650\u003c\/a\u003e)\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eChange Breeze theme so it has the same look with CSDs and SSDs (and also fix that bug)\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ol\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-192008\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_548\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/jp3luzknmku7uqxtuvo6\/PHID-FILE-xsdcutgttv2nstp3pfh2\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"192008\" id=\"192008\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_547\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#192008\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_546\"\u003eJul 16 2019, 5:51 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_544\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_545\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_195\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#191854\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_78\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#191854\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/mthw\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_79\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@mthw\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003col class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eUse CSDs and fix text color on non-selected tabs (something I am trying to fix - but might be a bug in Firefox \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1461650\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/bugzilla.mozilla.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=1461650\u003c\/a\u003e)\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ol\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eFor Firefox and Thunderbird, CSD vs SSD is something that the user can determine, so we need to make sure both work. Also we can't force one in the theme.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003col class=\"remarkup-list\" start=\"2\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eChange Breeze theme so it has the same look with CSDs and SSDs (and also fix that bug)\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ol\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eGenerally that's the idea, but this is unfortunately not easily possible on X11. On Wayland there's hope though.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-192998\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_551\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/jp3luzknmku7uqxtuvo6\/PHID-FILE-xsdcutgttv2nstp3pfh2\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"192998\" id=\"192998\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_550\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e updated the task description. \u003ca href=\"\/transactions\/detail\/PHID-XACT-TASK-ax2mvyxzedrl5ga\/\" data-sigil=\"workflow\"\u003e(Show Details)\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#192998\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_549\"\u003eJul 25 2019, 5:47 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-193217\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_561\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/6sh44kc2pkrfcgixziht\/PHID-FILE-zjsasmzy76vzypmkjush\/5e5a7f-alphanumeric_lato-white_J.png-255%2C255%2C255%2C0.4.png)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/johan.boule\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"193217\" id=\"193217\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_560\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/johan.boule\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003ejohan.boule\u003c\/a\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/johan.boule\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_196\"\u003ejohan.boule\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003eEdited\u003cspan class=\"visual-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"#193217\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_559\"\u003eJul 28 2019, 2:21 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_557\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_558\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_197\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eTLDR: Where would you recommend me to go if Breeze is not my cup of tea?\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI don't know whether Breeze is still going to be the default theme when I upgrade, but I desperately hope there's gonna be a few very-select other well-maintained themes available without me having to crawl amongst the thousand random themes downloadable on external sites to find one that makes sense. And the crux here is being very-select. We don't need many themes, we just need three or four good ones. The previous version of KDE Neon unfortunately did come with 3 themes, which is enough, BUT, none passed my criteria of what makes a quality one. One of them even was named in a way to make the user not ever willing to select it because it referred to an operating system that you certainly don't want to use. And so I had to spend quite some time fixing hundreds of badly combined settings to make something workable. I'm looking for themes that are "classic" rather than "modern", by which I mean aimed at productivity and clarity of the information displayed rather than seeking some futile beauty. This is not painting, not art, this is efficiency to transmit information from the screen to my eyes, and the brain that's behind.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI hope there are some other people who understand what I mean and are fighting to put the good forgotten rules back in place.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eOnce you've done that, you seldom have to touch a theme anymore. It can stay the way it is forever unless you've got new technical elements to account for.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-193219\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_571\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/6sh44kc2pkrfcgixziht\/PHID-FILE-zjsasmzy76vzypmkjush\/5e5a7f-alphanumeric_lato-white_J.png-255%2C255%2C255%2C0.4.png)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/johan.boule\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"193219\" id=\"193219\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_570\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/johan.boule\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003ejohan.boule\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003eEdited\u003cspan class=\"visual-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"#193219\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_569\"\u003eJul 28 2019, 2:56 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_567\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_568\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_198\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eFTR, the "Breeze" color palette proposed in Konsole is obviously not workable.\u003cbr \/\u003e\nFor the most obvious breakage: look at any manpage and you'll see (or won't see actually) that bright and dark text are indistinguishable!\u003cbr \/\u003e\nYou need to stick more closely to the standard, and only slightly adjust it.\u003cbr \/\u003e\nBefore you release a theme, check all combinations of colors to make sure there are distinguishable from each others (fg, bg, bright, dim).\u003cbr \/\u003e\nI feel stupid for having to mention that, but, heck, I also feel that if I don't do it, you're gonna forget to check that again!\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eNote: the Breeze palette is not the only broken one amongst the default ones: there all are, except the "Linux" one and the "Black on White" and "White on Black" ones (which presumably are XTerm's or ECMA-48 standard, sanely crafted ones).\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-193220\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_580\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/qnii5pbirazuzeoefkkz\/PHID-FILE-bitobn2eo6gf6bqgld3x\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/lavender\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"193220\" id=\"193220\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_579\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/lavender\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e lavender\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#193220\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_578\"\u003eJul 28 2019, 3:12 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_576\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_577\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_199\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/johan.boule\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_80\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@johan.boule\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e you are talking about two things if I understand you correctly: inefficiency and inconsistency\/bugs. If there isn't an issue open for the konsole issue, you should open one or join the discussion because everyone agrees that manpages should be readable. As for efficiency: where do you feel that Breeze is lacking compared to "classic" themes? Maybe there is a way of improving that too. Glad that you decided to join the discussion.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-193230\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_589\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/qcjudm2kkez2ax3pnzm2\/PHID-FILE-bvswkxe6vcahd7kegqfc\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ndavis\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"193230\" id=\"193230\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_588\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ndavis\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003endavis\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#193230\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_587\"\u003eJul 28 2019, 3:32 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_585\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_586\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_200\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#193217\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_81\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#193217\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/johan.boule\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_82\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@johan.boule\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eTLDR: Where would you recommend me to go if Breeze is not my cup of tea?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThe Kvantum theme engine seems like a popular alternative, although the engine's themes don't work as well with Qt Quick apps as it does with Qt Widget apps. Oxygen still exists. Fusion is the Qt Widgets theme provided by Qt and it's decent.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eI don't know whether Breeze is still going to be the default theme when I upgrade\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIt will, unless your Linux distribution sets a custom default theme.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003ebut I desperately hope there's gonna be a few very-select other well-maintained themes available without me having to crawl amongst the thousand random themes downloadable on external sites to find one that makes sense. And the crux here is being very-select. We don't need many themes, we just need three or four good ones. The previous version of KDE Neon unfortunately did come with 3 themes, which is enough, BUT, none passed my criteria of what makes a quality one.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI don't know about other KDE developers, but I'm not going to be working on any other widget theme. 3 or even 4 is quite a lot. KDE already has 2; Breeze and Oxygen. Oxygen doesn't get much development, but it still works.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThe rest of this is off-topic, so please make another task if you want to continue this conversation. I'll still reply to save you the trouble of making a task in case a single answer is enough to satisfy you.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eOne of them even was named in a way to make the user not ever willing to select it because it referred to an operating system that you certainly don't want to use.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI'm guessing you mean Windows ;)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eAnd so I had to spend quite some time fixing hundreds of badly combined settings to make something workable. I'm looking for themes that are "classic" rather than "modern", by which I mean aimed at productivity and clarity of the information displayed rather than seeking some futile beauty. This is not painting, not art, this is efficiency to transmit information from the screen to my eyes, and the brain that's behind.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI hope there are some other people who understand what I mean and are fighting to put the good forgotten rules back in place.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eMost of the user made Kvantum themes are inspired by Apple and Google. You might find a few "classic" themes, but then you're back to searching around. In Fedora and openSUSE, you can get quite a few classic themes from a package called \u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003elibqt5-qtstyleplugins\u003c\/tt\u003e. I think it includes Plastique (KDE3), Cleanlooks, Motif and CDE themes (If you want to go \u003cem\u003eextra\u003c\/em\u003e classic). If that's still not good enough, you can use the GTK2 theme engine, set a GTK2 theme that looks like what you want and Qt apps will follow that look.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-193231\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_598\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/qcjudm2kkez2ax3pnzm2\/PHID-FILE-bvswkxe6vcahd7kegqfc\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ndavis\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"193231\" id=\"193231\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_597\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ndavis\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003endavis\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#193231\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_596\"\u003eJul 28 2019, 3:32 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_594\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_595\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_201\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#193219\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_83\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#193219\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/johan.boule\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_84\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@johan.boule\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eFTR, the "Breeze" color palette proposed in Konsole is obviously not workable.\u003cbr \/\u003e\n For the most obvious breakage: look at any manpage and you'll see (or won't see actually) that bright and dark text are indistinguishable!\u003cbr \/\u003e\n You need to stick more closely to the standard, and only slightly adjust it.\u003cbr \/\u003e\n Before you release a theme, check all combinations of colors to make sure there are distinguishable from each others (fg, bg, bright, dim).\u003cbr \/\u003e\n I feel stupid for having to mention that, but, heck, I also feel that if I don't do it, you're gonna forget to check that again!\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eNote: the Breeze palette is not the only broken one amongst the default ones: there all are, except the "Linux" one and the "Black on White" and "White on Black" ones (which presumably are XTerm's default).\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI already have my own custom version of the Breeze Konsole theme that's made to work well with custom shell prompts that use lots of colors, so maybe we should just use that. I made it before I was a KDE developer and kind of forgot about it even though I use it every day.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-193232\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_608\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/6sh44kc2pkrfcgixziht\/PHID-FILE-zjsasmzy76vzypmkjush\/5e5a7f-alphanumeric_lato-white_J.png-255%2C255%2C255%2C0.4.png)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/johan.boule\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"193232\" id=\"193232\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_607\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/johan.boule\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003ejohan.boule\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003eEdited\u003cspan class=\"visual-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"#193232\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_606\"\u003eJul 28 2019, 3:32 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_604\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_605\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_202\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/lavender\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_85\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-dot phui-tag-color-grey\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e@lavender\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e By inefficiency, I mean usability, being brain-friendly.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eBreeze, particularly its dark variant, as a whole, is a theme that wants to wash-out any visible cue about what are the discrete elements on the screen, probably for debatable aesthetic reasons.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eSo much that, for example, with the default settings, my brain ended up having a hard time seeing the limits of the windows when they are overlapping in certain ways. I would start merging two windows in my brain and have to fight the confusion by brain analysis, which, accumulated over hours of usage would just make me feel tired.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI can also mention I feel quite disabled in front of Konsole's tab. It's physically impossible for me to tell which one is selected.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAlso, even after a year or two of usage, i'm still unable to tell by looking at the task bar which window is the focused\/active one: the concept of having windows look like tab with their thin blue line telling which one is selected just doesn't imprint in my brain. What my brain see prominently is the background of the elements in the taskbar, but this merely indicates whether the windows are minimised.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI can't fight such brain issues no matter what effort I put in, and I'm probably not alone.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-193248\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_618\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/qcjudm2kkez2ax3pnzm2\/PHID-FILE-bvswkxe6vcahd7kegqfc\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ndavis\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"193248\" id=\"193248\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_617\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ndavis\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003endavis\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003eEdited\u003cspan class=\"visual-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"#193248\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_616\"\u003eJul 28 2019, 3:58 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_614\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_615\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_203\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#193232\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_86\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#193232\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/johan.boule\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_87\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@johan.boule\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/lavender\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_88\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-dot phui-tag-color-grey\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e@lavender\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e By inefficiency, I mean usability, being brain-friendly.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eBreeze, particularly its dark variant, as a whole, is a theme that wants to wash-out any visible cue about what are the discrete elements on the screen, probably for debatable aesthetic reasons.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI agree, Breeze Dark really needs some new colors, particularly the selection and hover colors. I'm not sure it's even like that for aesthetic reasons.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eSo much that, for example, with the default settings, my brain ended up having a hard time seeing the limits of the windows when they are overlapping in certain ways. I would start merging two windows in my brain and have to fight the confusion by brain analysis, which, accumulated over hours of usage would just make me feel tired.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThat might be because the colors are dark and the shadows are just more dark (black). I don't think there's anything that can be done about that and you should probably stick to light themes.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eI can also mention I feel quite disabled in front of Konsole's tab. It's physically impossible for me to tell which one is selected.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThat's a fair point. The contrast between background and selected tabs isn't very noticeable in some cases. It would probably be a good idea to address that. I feel like I've seen tabs with underline focus decorations, but I can't figure out how to get those, which isn't a good sign.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eAlso, even after a year or two of usage, i'm still unable to tell by looking at the task bar which window is the focused\/active: the concept of having windows look like tab with their thin blue line telling which one is selected just doesn't imprint in my brain. What my brain see prominently is the background of the elements in the taskbar, but this merely indicates whether the windows are minimised.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eYes, I kind of agree that the way the taskbar's visuals work don't make a lot of sense. Perhaps they should be more like the sidebar visuals I've been working on: \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/i.imgur.com\/N6FmN8K.png\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/i.imgur.com\/N6FmN8K.png\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eI can't fight such brain issues no matter what effort I put in, and I'm probably not alone.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI understand and I think your concerns are valid.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-193267\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_627\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/qnii5pbirazuzeoefkkz\/PHID-FILE-bitobn2eo6gf6bqgld3x\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/lavender\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"193267\" id=\"193267\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_626\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/lavender\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e lavender\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#193267\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_625\"\u003eJul 28 2019, 5:12 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_623\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_624\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_204\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#193248\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_89\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#193248\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/ndavis\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_90\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@ndavis\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eThat might be because the colors are dark and the shadows are just more dark (black). I don't think there's anything that can be done about that and you should probably stick to light themes.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWhat if the shadow\/blur used a color that contrasts the background?\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eI can also mention I feel quite disabled in front of Konsole's tab. It's physically impossible for me to tell which one is selected.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThat's a fair point. The contrast between background and selected tabs isn't very noticeable in some cases. It would probably be a good idea to address that. I feel like I've seen tabs with underline focus decorations, but I can't figure out how to get those, which isn't a good sign.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThe konsole tabs is a big one of my annoyances.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eYes, I kind of agree that the way the taskbar's visuals work don't make a lot of sense. Perhaps they should be more like the sidebar visuals I've been working on: \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/i.imgur.com\/N6FmN8K.png\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/i.imgur.com\/N6FmN8K.png\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eNice, one small change would be the "line" color which in your sidebar is already in the "active" state but on the taskbar it only happens when your pointer is hovering over the window in the taskbar.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-193270\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_636\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/qcjudm2kkez2ax3pnzm2\/PHID-FILE-bvswkxe6vcahd7kegqfc\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ndavis\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"193270\" id=\"193270\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_635\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ndavis\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003endavis\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#193270\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_634\"\u003eJul 28 2019, 5:31 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_632\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_633\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_205\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#193267\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_92\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#193267\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/lavender\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_93\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-dot phui-tag-color-grey\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e@lavender\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#193248\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_91\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#193248\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/ndavis\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_94\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@ndavis\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eThat might be because the colors are dark and the shadows are just more dark (black). I don't think there's anything that can be done about that and you should probably stick to light themes.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWhat if the shadow\/blur used a color that contrasts the background?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003ewell, in order to have good contrast, the shadow would have to be a glow instead of a shadow. I think most users want to have a shadow and anyone who wants to change the shadow color can already do that.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-193295\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_645\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/piq6vfb4cpe5jsemvjul\/PHID-FILE-3mvbrqfxjf34k32quxpc\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/onvitaik\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"193295\" id=\"193295\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_644\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/onvitaik\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eonvitaik\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#193295\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_643\"\u003eJul 28 2019, 8:06 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_641\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_642\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_206\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eOn the topic of the dark theme: I think it currently has too much contrast. Most elements you see have a dark background with light text and light borders, which makes you (or in this case, me?) focus almost as much on the borders as their content. Making the borders more subdued, giving the tab area a lighter color to make up for it, making the buttons lighter than their borders, and using more pastel colors could be a start. Here's a quick edit of \u003ca href=\"\/p\/ndavis\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_96\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@ndavis\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e 's screenshot\/mockup as an example: \u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/2th3pz4r5jmuu2nnn6ll\/PHID-FILE-tuoyqiehxvgw3hxdx5qo\/mock2.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_95\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/l7yb5emiut5sb4pdj6uc\/PHID-FILE-eeyxzmxcc33wllkcr5vk\/preview-mock2.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"96.426282051282\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAs an extra I also changed how the tabs look a bit, and removed the "General" header (It seemed redundant). I think the result looks easier on the eyes, even for a quick edit.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-193297\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_654\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/qnii5pbirazuzeoefkkz\/PHID-FILE-bitobn2eo6gf6bqgld3x\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/lavender\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"193297\" id=\"193297\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_653\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/lavender\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e lavender\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#193297\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_652\"\u003eJul 28 2019, 8:51 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_650\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_651\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_207\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#193270\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_99\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#193270\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/ndavis\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_100\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@ndavis\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#193267\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_98\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#193267\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/lavender\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_101\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-dot phui-tag-color-grey\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e@lavender\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#193248\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_97\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#193248\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/ndavis\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_102\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@ndavis\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eThat might be because the colors are dark and the shadows are just more dark (black). I don't think there's anything that can be done about that and you should probably stick to light themes.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWhat if the shadow\/blur used a color that contrasts the background?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003ewell, in order to have good contrast, the shadow would have to be a glow instead of a shadow. I think most users want to have a shadow and anyone who wants to change the shadow color can already do that.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI don't know, glow effects are common to indicate what is active\/requires attention in all kinds of interfaces. Shadows are a skeumorphic design and maybe we should try it and see how it looks? Where does the current setting live?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-193298\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_657\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/rhpjt4e25zizuthudntk\/PHID-FILE-idtdnlz25pdwr7tdt44i\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/andreask\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"193298\" id=\"193298\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-times phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_656\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/andreask\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eandreask\u003c\/a\u003e removed a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/andreask\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_208\"\u003eandreask\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#193298\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_655\"\u003eJul 28 2019, 8:53 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell phui-timeline-black\" id=\"anchor-193326\" 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aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ghost34\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e ghost34\u003c\/a\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/ghost34\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_209\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e ghost34\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#193326\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_658\"\u003eJul 29 2019, 9:02 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"comment-deleted\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_210\"\u003eThis comment was removed by \u003ca href=\"\/p\/ghost34\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e ghost34\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-193870\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_669\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/jp3luzknmku7uqxtuvo6\/PHID-FILE-xsdcutgttv2nstp3pfh2\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"193870\" id=\"193870\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_668\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#193870\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_667\"\u003eAug 2 2019, 3:31 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_665\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_666\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_211\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#193295\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_104\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#193295\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/onvitaik\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_105\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@onvitaik\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eOn the topic of the dark theme: I think it currently has too much contrast. Most elements you see have a dark background with light text and light borders, which makes you (or in this case, me?) focus almost as much on the borders as their content. Making the borders more subdued, giving the tab area a lighter color to make up for it, making the buttons lighter than their borders, and using more pastel colors could be a start. Here's a quick edit of \u003ca href=\"\/p\/ndavis\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_106\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@ndavis\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e 's screenshot\/mockup as an example: \u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/2th3pz4r5jmuu2nnn6ll\/PHID-FILE-tuoyqiehxvgw3hxdx5qo\/mock2.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_103\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/l7yb5emiut5sb4pdj6uc\/PHID-FILE-eeyxzmxcc33wllkcr5vk\/preview-mock2.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"96.426282051282\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAs an extra I also changed how the tabs look a bit, and removed the "General" header (It seemed redundant). I think the result looks easier on the eyes, even for a quick edit.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI don't use a dark theme because I don't like how it looks as much as the light theme, but I have to say that I find the proposed mockup here to be a huge improvement. I might actually use it from time to time if it looked like that.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-193877\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_673\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/jp3luzknmku7uqxtuvo6\/PHID-FILE-xsdcutgttv2nstp3pfh2\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"193877\" id=\"193877\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-columns phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_671\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e moved this task from \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/89\/\" class=\"phui-handle\"\u003eBacklog\/Planned\u003c\/a\u003e to \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/89\/\" class=\"phui-handle\"\u003eSent to dev\u003c\/a\u003e on the \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/vdg\/\" class=\"phui-handle\"\u003eVDG\u003c\/a\u003e board.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#193877\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_670\"\u003eAug 2 2019, 5:52 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-columns phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_672\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e moved this task from \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/33\/\" class=\"phui-handle\"\u003eBacklog\/Planned\u003c\/a\u003e to \u003ca href=\"\/project\/board\/33\/\" class=\"phui-handle\"\u003eWork in Progress\u003c\/a\u003e on the \u003ca href=\"\/tag\/breeze\/\" class=\"phui-handle\"\u003eBreeze\u003c\/a\u003e board.\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-194111\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_682\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/qds6pjw2jjshb453vyxy\/PHID-FILE-xm6keo5pqhmhldlfgu7l\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/GB_2\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"194111\" id=\"194111\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_681\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/GB_2\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eGB_2\u003c\/a\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/GB_2\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_212\"\u003eGB_2\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#194111\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_680\"\u003eAug 4 2019, 1:22 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_678\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_679\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_213\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/deibwntmqb37teej7cka\/PHID-FILE-5ltcoglkrbvqejp2mxhm\/grafik.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_107\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/rzdbmzi4mevsstlki2ny\/PHID-FILE-ulzeirc2aravchg23w62\/preview-grafik.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"55\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\nI think that making the gray here in sliders and scrollbars darker would also make Breeze look a lot better.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-194749\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_691\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/piq6vfb4cpe5jsemvjul\/PHID-FILE-3mvbrqfxjf34k32quxpc\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/onvitaik\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"194749\" id=\"194749\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_690\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/onvitaik\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eonvitaik\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#194749\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_689\"\u003eAug 9 2019, 9:12 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_687\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_688\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_214\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eHere's another set of dark theme mockups (and some miscellaneous modifications to tabs, sidebars, title bars) :\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/jwgsymt6fqkwyhcs6nrr\/PHID-FILE-gdbljnxnqyd3heygyyjl\/modified.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_108\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/mce7h7vgwc3d7r3hwnih\/PHID-FILE-n7snakro7tmdy5nktctu\/preview-modified.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"180.27777777778\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAnd the original screenshots I used as a base, for comparison:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/ishknmwjrgies5daeqwp\/PHID-FILE-z5pkwqu6vmaugvwwcl4h\/current.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_109\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/vwh47lyhfxbzqgwtuvk7\/PHID-FILE-gsoiqjfvipvworhqp4g5\/preview-current.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"180.27777777778\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-194750\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_701\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/qcjudm2kkez2ax3pnzm2\/PHID-FILE-bvswkxe6vcahd7kegqfc\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ndavis\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"194750\" id=\"194750\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_700\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ndavis\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003endavis\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003eEdited\u003cspan class=\"visual-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"#194750\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_699\"\u003eAug 9 2019, 11:02 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_697\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_698\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_215\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#194749\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_112\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#194749\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/onvitaik\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_113\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@onvitaik\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eHere's another set of dark theme mockups (and some miscellaneous modifications to tabs, sidebars, title bars) :\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/jwgsymt6fqkwyhcs6nrr\/PHID-FILE-gdbljnxnqyd3heygyyjl\/modified.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_110\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/mce7h7vgwc3d7r3hwnih\/PHID-FILE-n7snakro7tmdy5nktctu\/preview-modified.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"180.27777777778\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAnd the original screenshots I used as a base, for comparison:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/ishknmwjrgies5daeqwp\/PHID-FILE-z5pkwqu6vmaugvwwcl4h\/current.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_111\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/vwh47lyhfxbzqgwtuvk7\/PHID-FILE-gsoiqjfvipvworhqp4g5\/preview-current.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"180.27777777778\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eHow\/why did you pick those colors? Is there a method or formula that you follow?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-194761\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_710\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/piq6vfb4cpe5jsemvjul\/PHID-FILE-3mvbrqfxjf34k32quxpc\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/onvitaik\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"194761\" id=\"194761\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_709\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/onvitaik\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eonvitaik\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#194761\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_708\"\u003eAug 10 2019, 1:09 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_706\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_707\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_216\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#194750\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_114\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#194750\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/ndavis\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_115\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@ndavis\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eHow\/why did you pick those colors? Is there a method or formula that you follow?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThere's no strict formula; I just try to use pale\/low-contrast colors when working with dark backgrounds, and high contrast only on lighter backgrounds. As for why, it's because vibrant colors on a dark background can hurt the eyes of a lot of people, mine included.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-194762\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_720\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/qcjudm2kkez2ax3pnzm2\/PHID-FILE-bvswkxe6vcahd7kegqfc\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ndavis\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"194762\" id=\"194762\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_719\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ndavis\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003endavis\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003eEdited\u003cspan class=\"visual-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"#194762\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_718\"\u003eAug 10 2019, 1:50 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_716\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_717\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_217\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eSo what do you think about these highlight\/selection\/hover\/focus colors? I chose them by taking Plasma Blue (\u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e#3daee9\u003c\/tt\u003e) from the KDE HIG and adjusting the brightness with \u003ca href=\"http:\/\/www.hsluv.org\/\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003eHSLuv.org\u003c\/a\u003e. The selection background color is 1\/2 the brightness and the hover background is 2\/3. I don't really know how to pick colors, so I'm taking a somewhat conservative approach where new colors are at least somewhat based on existing ones.\u003cbr \/\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/4bo77pkjb2ey2riw7m7p\/PHID-FILE-nitlz2stnu4mbsayifjh\/Screenshot_20190809_213001.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image-full\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_116\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/4bo77pkjb2ey2riw7m7p\/PHID-FILE-nitlz2stnu4mbsayifjh\/Screenshot_20190809_213001.png\" height=\"707\" width=\"747\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-194763\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_729\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/piq6vfb4cpe5jsemvjul\/PHID-FILE-3mvbrqfxjf34k32quxpc\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/onvitaik\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"194763\" id=\"194763\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_728\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/onvitaik\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eonvitaik\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#194763\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_727\"\u003eAug 10 2019, 4:33 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_725\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_726\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_218\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#194762\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_118\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#194762\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/ndavis\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_121\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@ndavis\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eSo what do you think about these highlight\/selection\/hover\/focus colors? I chose them by taking Plasma Blue (\u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e#3daee9\u003c\/tt\u003e) from the KDE HIG and adjusting the brightness with \u003ca href=\"http:\/\/www.hsluv.org\/\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003eHSLuv.org\u003c\/a\u003e. The selection background color is 1\/2 the brightness and the hover background is 2\/3. I don't really know how to pick colors, so I'm taking a somewhat conservative approach where new colors are at least somewhat based on existing ones.\u003cbr \/\u003e\n <image>\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003ePersonally, I'm not too keen on it. I don't mind the way buttons change when you highlight\/select\/hover them right now, and I try to avoid transparency as much as I can just so I can always find the right color in the palette. Also, I think \u003ca href=\"\/p\/cblack\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_120\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@cblack\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e had the right idea with colors, so you should take that as a base. Mine, on the other hand, were rough modifications that pretty much completely disregarded the HIG for the sake of seeing how things could be.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eMy biggest gripe with Breeze Dark in the end is just how it looks like an inverted Breeze Light, with all the elevation also inverted. I hope at least that can be addressed some day, as I think it's the main thing holding it back, and it doesn't look like it can be modified through Appearance > Colors. Here's one last example, taking again \u003ca href=\"\/p\/ndavis\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_119\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@ndavis\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e 's screenshot, but this time done just by switching colors around (plus one new color for the button background).\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/lrgw4pl2cioxnasshu7w\/PHID-FILE-x53z37akmf2altonuhlw\/Screenshot_20190809_213001_edit.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_117\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/y2guudgng7idkso52lim\/PHID-FILE-5aer7amppleqfuqxwz3i\/preview-Screenshot_20190809_213001_edit.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"208.21954484605\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-194989\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_738\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/qnii5pbirazuzeoefkkz\/PHID-FILE-bitobn2eo6gf6bqgld3x\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/lavender\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"194989\" id=\"194989\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_737\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/lavender\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e lavender\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#194989\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_736\"\u003eAug 10 2019, 10:32 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_734\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_735\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_219\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#194749\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_125\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#194749\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/onvitaik\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_132\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@onvitaik\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eHere's another set of dark theme mockups (and some miscellaneous modifications to tabs, sidebars, title bars) :\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/jwgsymt6fqkwyhcs6nrr\/PHID-FILE-gdbljnxnqyd3heygyyjl\/modified.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_122\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/mce7h7vgwc3d7r3hwnih\/PHID-FILE-n7snakro7tmdy5nktctu\/preview-modified.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"180.27777777778\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAnd the original screenshots I used as a base, for comparison:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/ishknmwjrgies5daeqwp\/PHID-FILE-z5pkwqu6vmaugvwwcl4h\/current.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_123\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/vwh47lyhfxbzqgwtuvk7\/PHID-FILE-gsoiqjfvipvworhqp4g5\/preview-current.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"180.27777777778\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis looks really good, the only gripe I have with it is the sidebar in the bottom right window is more visible with the current color to me.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#194763\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_127\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#194763\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/onvitaik\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_128\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@onvitaik\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#194762\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_126\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#194762\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/ndavis\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_131\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@ndavis\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eSo what do you think about these highlight\/selection\/hover\/focus colors? I chose them by taking Plasma Blue (\u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e#3daee9\u003c\/tt\u003e) from the KDE HIG and adjusting the brightness with \u003ca href=\"http:\/\/www.hsluv.org\/\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003eHSLuv.org\u003c\/a\u003e. The selection background color is 1\/2 the brightness and the hover background is 2\/3. I don't really know how to pick colors, so I'm taking a somewhat conservative approach where new colors are at least somewhat based on existing ones.\u003cbr \/\u003e\n <image>\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003ePersonally, I'm not too keen on it. I don't mind the way buttons change when you highlight\/select\/hover them right now, and I try to avoid transparency as much as I can just so I can always find the right color in the palette. Also, I think \u003ca href=\"\/p\/cblack\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_130\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@cblack\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e had the right idea with colors, so you should take that as a base. Mine, on the other hand, were rough modifications that pretty much completely disregarded the HIG for the sake of seeing how things could be.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eMy biggest gripe with Breeze Dark in the end is just how it looks like an inverted Breeze Light, with all the elevation also inverted. I hope at least that can be addressed some day, as I think it's the main thing holding it back, and it doesn't look like it can be modified through Appearance > Colors. Here's one last example, taking again \u003ca href=\"\/p\/ndavis\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_129\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@ndavis\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e 's screenshot, but this time done just by switching colors around (plus one new color for the button background).\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/lrgw4pl2cioxnasshu7w\/PHID-FILE-x53z37akmf2altonuhlw\/Screenshot_20190809_213001_edit.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_124\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/y2guudgng7idkso52lim\/PHID-FILE-5aer7amppleqfuqxwz3i\/preview-Screenshot_20190809_213001_edit.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"208.21954484605\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThe first highlighted pushbutton (where the cursor is) is less visible in your version than noah's due to the contrast. And the radiobuttons has weird artifacts but maybe that's a compression thing.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-194990\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_747\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/qcjudm2kkez2ax3pnzm2\/PHID-FILE-bvswkxe6vcahd7kegqfc\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ndavis\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"194990\" id=\"194990\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_746\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ndavis\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003endavis\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#194990\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_745\"\u003eAug 10 2019, 11:12 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_743\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_744\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_220\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#194989\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_133\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#194989\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/lavender\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_134\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-dot phui-tag-color-grey\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e@lavender\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe first highlighted pushbutton (where the cursor is) is less visible in your version than noah's due to the contrast.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eGood contrast is what I've been focusing on the most with my work. \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/webaim.org\/articles\/contrast\/\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/webaim.org\/articles\/contrast\/\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI know that while the selection\/hover background has a good contrast ratio with the text\/icons (better than 4.5:1), the contrast ratio is definitely not good with the window background (less than 3:1), so I made sure to use outlines with lighter colors.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-194991\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_757\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/piq6vfb4cpe5jsemvjul\/PHID-FILE-3mvbrqfxjf34k32quxpc\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/onvitaik\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"194991\" id=\"194991\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_756\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/onvitaik\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eonvitaik\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003eEdited\u003cspan class=\"visual-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"#194991\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_755\"\u003eAug 10 2019, 12:09 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_753\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_754\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_221\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#194989\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_135\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#194989\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/lavender\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_136\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-dot phui-tag-color-grey\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e@lavender\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe first highlighted pushbutton (where the cursor is) is less visible in your version than noah's due to the contrast. And the radiobuttons has weird artifacts but maybe that's a compression thing.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eVisible as in readable, or discernible? I agree with the former as it has lower text\/BG contrast, but not with the latter as the contrast between the button and the area around it went up. Plasma Blue (\u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e#3daee9\u003c\/tt\u003e), as it is, might be just too bright for a dark theme. A darker\/paler blue (\u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e#428AAE\u003c\/tt\u003e) has a better contrast rating with both the background and the text (3.41 and 3.74 respectively, using \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/jxnblk.github.io\/colorable\/demos\/text\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/jxnblk.github.io\/colorable\/demos\/text\u003c\/a\u003e). As for the artifacts, they are due to me quite literally selecting a color range and replacing it with another, so there was some collateral damage...\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-195205\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_766\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/qnii5pbirazuzeoefkkz\/PHID-FILE-bitobn2eo6gf6bqgld3x\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/lavender\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"195205\" id=\"195205\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_765\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/lavender\/\" class=\"phui-handle handle-availability-disabled phui-link-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"perfect-circle\"\u003e\u2022\u003c\/span\u003e lavender\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#195205\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_764\"\u003eAug 12 2019, 1:46 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_762\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_763\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_222\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#194991\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_138\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#194991\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/onvitaik\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_139\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@onvitaik\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#194989\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_137\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#194989\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/lavender\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_140\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-dot phui-tag-color-grey\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e@lavender\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe first highlighted pushbutton (where the cursor is) is less visible in your version than noah's due to the contrast. And the radiobuttons has weird artifacts but maybe that's a compression thing.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eVisible as in readable, or discernible? I agree with the former as it has lower text\/BG contrast, but not with the latter as the contrast between the button and the area around it went up. Plasma Blue (\u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e#3daee9\u003c\/tt\u003e), as it is, might be just too bright for a dark theme. A darker\/paler blue (\u003ctt class=\"remarkup-monospaced\"\u003e#428AAE\u003c\/tt\u003e) has a better contrast rating with both the background and the text (3.41 and 3.74 respectively, using \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/jxnblk.github.io\/colorable\/demos\/text\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/jxnblk.github.io\/colorable\/demos\/text\u003c\/a\u003e). As for the artifacts, they are due to me quite literally selecting a color range and replacing it with another, so there was some collateral damage...\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eSorry, you're correct, I meant readable. I can discern that it's a button but I can't read at a glance what the text says. Using your link it says fail for the text in the button: \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/jxnblk.github.io\/colorable\/demos\/text\/?background=%233daee9&foreground=%23DAFFFF\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/jxnblk.github.io\/colorable\/demos\/text\/?background=%233daee9&foreground=%23DAFFFF\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI'm partial to noah's approach of using a lighter outline to help with discernment.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-195258\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_775\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/piq6vfb4cpe5jsemvjul\/PHID-FILE-3mvbrqfxjf34k32quxpc\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/onvitaik\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"195258\" id=\"195258\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_774\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/onvitaik\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eonvitaik\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#195258\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_773\"\u003eAug 12 2019, 6:57 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_771\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_772\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_223\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#195205\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_141\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#195205\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/lavender\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_142\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-dot phui-tag-color-grey\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e@lavender\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eSorry, you're correct, I meant readable. I can discern that it's a button but I can't read at a glance what the text says. Using your link it says fail for the text in the button: \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/jxnblk.github.io\/colorable\/demos\/text\/?background=%233daee9&foreground=%23DAFFFF\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/jxnblk.github.io\/colorable\/demos\/text\/?background=%233daee9&foreground=%23DAFFFF\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI'm partial to noah's approach of using a lighter outline to help with discernment.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI think you picked the wrong colors. I meant this: \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/jxnblk.github.io\/colorable\/demos\/text\/?background=%23428AAE&foreground=%23fcfcfc\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/jxnblk.github.io\/colorable\/demos\/text\/?background=%23428AAE&foreground=%23fcfcfc\u003c\/a\u003e which gives AA Large. Not the best, but not a fail, either.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-196454\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_784\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/qcjudm2kkez2ax3pnzm2\/PHID-FILE-bvswkxe6vcahd7kegqfc\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ndavis\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"196454\" id=\"196454\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_783\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ndavis\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003endavis\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#196454\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_782\"\u003eAug 24 2019, 6:05 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_780\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_781\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_224\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#195258\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_144\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#195258\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/onvitaik\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_145\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@onvitaik\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#195205\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_143\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#195205\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/lavender\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_146\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-dot phui-tag-color-grey\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e@lavender\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eSorry, you're correct, I meant readable. I can discern that it's a button but I can't read at a glance what the text says. Using your link it says fail for the text in the button: \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/jxnblk.github.io\/colorable\/demos\/text\/?background=%233daee9&foreground=%23DAFFFF\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/jxnblk.github.io\/colorable\/demos\/text\/?background=%233daee9&foreground=%23DAFFFF\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI'm partial to noah's approach of using a lighter outline to help with discernment.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI think you picked the wrong colors. I meant this: \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/jxnblk.github.io\/colorable\/demos\/text\/?background=%23428AAE&foreground=%23fcfcfc\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/jxnblk.github.io\/colorable\/demos\/text\/?background=%23428AAE&foreground=%23fcfcfc\u003c\/a\u003e which gives AA Large. Not the best, but not a fail, either.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eActually, it is a fail for typical usage. AA Large (3:1) means it meets the minimum requirement for large text (at least 18pt or 14pt bold) like page headers, not small text like lists and labels. The minimum for small text is AA Contrast (4.5:1).\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-197814\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_793\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/v65i646jn25hje3vlfnz\/PHID-FILE-ulkctdax4rclmdgctr47\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/mart\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"197814\" id=\"197814\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_792\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/mart\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003emart\u003c\/a\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/mart\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_225\"\u003emart\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#197814\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_791\"\u003eSep 4 2019, 1:25 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_789\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_790\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_226\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003ethat's my take on dolphin, very few changes, mostly paying attenton to remove the frame in frame effects and have mostly single lines separators instead of all around frames\u003cbr \/\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/54qad3yri76e66bbsm4h\/PHID-FILE-hmiqmnnkwfjglujawcht\/Dolphin.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_147\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/pokvkzqosylaoxjenot6\/PHID-FILE-hzuqyqsxrwnnq626b6ni\/preview-Dolphin.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"155.506268081\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\nnote there that some of those lines have been also purposed as focus indicator for the main icon view.. which is a thing that we may or may not want\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-197816\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_802\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/jp3luzknmku7uqxtuvo6\/PHID-FILE-xsdcutgttv2nstp3pfh2\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"197816\" id=\"197816\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_801\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#197816\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_800\"\u003eSep 4 2019, 1:33 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_798\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_799\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_227\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThanks Marco! That looks fantastic. Very much in the spirit of what we're going for here.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI'm not sure keeping the blue line focus indicators is actually necessary. Focus is easy to see when something is actually selected, with a blue selection background. In the case where nothing is selected but a view is focused, Dolphin's solution of showing a "virtual" focus line to show where focus \u003cem\u003ewould\u003c\/em\u003e be makes sense to me.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAlso note that we need to figure out our focused vs unfocused selection states. In the above mockup (and also the case in existing Dolphin) the Places Panel looks like it has focus because its list items have the active focus color for their background. But this is inaccurate because it is \u003cstrong\u003enot\u003c\/strong\u003e focused. So it should have the an inactive-looking gray background color.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eElisa does this really well right now IMO (git master version) and could be used as an example\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-197817\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_811\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/v65i646jn25hje3vlfnz\/PHID-FILE-ulkctdax4rclmdgctr47\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/mart\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"197817\" id=\"197817\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_810\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/mart\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003emart\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#197817\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_809\"\u003eSep 4 2019, 1:36 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_807\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_808\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_228\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#197816\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_148\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#197816\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_149\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@ngraham\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThanks Marco! That looks fantastic. Very much in the spirit of what we're going for here.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI'm not sure keeping the blue line focus indicators is actually necessary. Focus is easy to see when something is actually selected, with a blue selection background. In the case\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eindeed.. on a related note not to have that focus thing makes the implementation from a mess to do to an *almost" straightforward one\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-197847\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_821\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/3dbhidnnfh3aroqncvzv\/PHID-FILE-qci5pogfokjw3ykbnzee\/b27d7a-alphanumeric_aleo-white_M.png-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.3.png)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/michaldybczak\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"197847\" id=\"197847\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_820\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/michaldybczak\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003emichaldybczak\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003eEdited\u003cspan class=\"visual-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"#197847\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_819\"\u003eSep 4 2019, 6:11 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_817\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_818\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_229\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI like the general direction where this is going. I'm using Kvantum theme on a daily basis which adds many of such effects anyway so I know from experience how well it works.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eHere is the screenshot how Dolphin looks like in my setup:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/chnf3pg7hu3mh6zxa5fn\/PHID-FILE-43zp43rddvomopbyq4w3\/Screenshot_20190904_200208.jpg\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_150\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/74zia3wqotw4uujw2st6\/PHID-FILE-5fyfzytq6pdaadouyrl2\/preview-Screenshot_20190904_200208.jpg\" width=\"220\" height=\"123.75\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI'm aware that the Breeze theme won't look exactly like that but I'm talking about details like:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003ethe same coloring of titlebar (light theme) that melts with the app, I dislike the breeze theme because it's neither light or dark\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003elack of unnecessary separator lines that make the whole app look minimalistic, elegant and smooth\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003erounded titlebar corners\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003egroupped, minimalistic icons on toolbar\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003elack of frame in frame effect (again, different modules melt with each other nicely)\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003ethinner titlebar (breeze titlebar is just too thick and ugly, this is one of my biggest issues with it, almost all other titlebars are thinner then Breeze one, so the default is too thick, with too big buttons, the smaller size is too small, nothing in between in the right size)\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003emany details that I don't even notice and you guys discuss it here\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eRemember, this isn't a mockup. I'm aware that this look isn't the goal, but I'm talking abut some details that are in common with the direction that this project is going and how it works well in practice, at least in my humble opinion.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-197848\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_830\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/jp3luzknmku7uqxtuvo6\/PHID-FILE-xsdcutgttv2nstp3pfh2\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"197848\" id=\"197848\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_829\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#197848\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_828\"\u003eSep 4 2019, 6:46 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_826\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_827\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_230\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThanks, that is indeed not the goal, but I agree that there are elements that work quite well that we can poach--such as the lack of frames and the visually grouped toolbar buttons, especially for mutually-exclusive actions (AKA segmented controls; see \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/bugs.kde.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=384514\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/bugs.kde.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=384514\u003c\/a\u003e). In terms of separation, we're going to use subtle single-pixel lines to separate major areas rather than going for a full "melted" look.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-197862\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_839\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/3dbhidnnfh3aroqncvzv\/PHID-FILE-qci5pogfokjw3ykbnzee\/b27d7a-alphanumeric_aleo-white_M.png-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.3.png)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/michaldybczak\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"197862\" id=\"197862\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_838\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/michaldybczak\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003emichaldybczak\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#197862\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_837\"\u003eSep 4 2019, 8:50 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_835\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_836\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_231\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eKvantum theme allows for turning the grouping of taskbar icons on and off so this should be possible on Breeze as well. I found the grouping to be more aesthetically pleasing. I'm not sure if such grouping is already added to the Breeze theme thou. There are already separators in settings so we can define which icons go into which group so basically this is all well covered if the grouping is available.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI agree that for a default look, we need some subtle lines here and there, at least to point out the modules\/elements of the UI. We still have different themes and Kvantum if we want alternatives and we shouldn't force a strongly defined (even fringe) theming onto everyone, so being conservative and keeping to well established and used standards must be a priority, despite personal preferences.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eOK, enough of the general talk.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-197863\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_842\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/57iaa6olf24jj4psv6xo\/PHID-FILE-qescl7kq6hc4y7cin7dg\/966461-alphanumeric_aleo-white_L.png-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.3.png)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Leon0402\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"197863\" id=\"197863\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_841\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Leon0402\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eLeon0402\u003c\/a\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Leon0402\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_232\"\u003eLeon0402\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#197863\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_840\"\u003eSep 4 2019, 9:07 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-197875\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_851\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/piq6vfb4cpe5jsemvjul\/PHID-FILE-3mvbrqfxjf34k32quxpc\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/onvitaik\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"197875\" id=\"197875\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_850\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/onvitaik\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eonvitaik\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#197875\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_849\"\u003eSep 4 2019, 11:55 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_847\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_848\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_233\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI think Breeze in general could really use some separators as a way to indicate one area is not attached to the other. Take Dolphin for example: The address area's background color is the same color as the sidebar's background, and with no visual separator, it looks like the two areas are directly linked. It looks strange.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAnother suggestion is to make the toolbar\/button bar the same color as the title bar. It looks more pleasant, in my opinion.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eHere's a mockup. I also made the address bar and search bar occupy the same space.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/ghcidfpvwiezmf5aomvr\/PHID-FILE-v2wffwj7cnsiaffp2xh6\/Frame.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_151\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/k3au6chulhgv7beknieg\/PHID-FILE-pkon64f72ttiyoombfey\/preview-Frame.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"64.796498905908\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-197876\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_860\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/jp3luzknmku7uqxtuvo6\/PHID-FILE-xsdcutgttv2nstp3pfh2\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"197876\" id=\"197876\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_859\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/ngraham\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003engraham\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#197876\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_858\"\u003eSep 5 2019, 4:14 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_856\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_857\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_234\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T10891#197875\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_152\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT10891#197875\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/onvitaik\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_154\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@onvitaik\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI think Breeze in general could really use some separators as a way to indicate one area is not attached to the other. Take Dolphin for example: The address area's background color is the same color as the sidebar's background, and with no visual separator, it looks like the two areas are directly linked. It looks strange.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eYes, fixing that type of unnatural merging of dissimilar areas is an explicit goal of this effort.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eAnother suggestion is to make the toolbar\/button bar the same color as the title bar. It looks more pleasant, in my opinion.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eYep, see \u003ca href=\"\/T10201\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_153\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core 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