for (;;);{"error":null,"payload":{"timeline":"\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-117271\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_106\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/pcztdlut3jypkh2ysh77\/PHID-FILE-rdca27hfg7odu4mtqi6i\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/scottpetrovic\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"117271\" id=\"117271\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-pencil phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_105\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/scottpetrovic\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003escottpetrovic\u003c\/a\u003e created this task.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#117271\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_104\"\u003eNov 7 2017, 3:39 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-117282\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_115\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/fey4l6zvpdjjruqn5z3h\/PHID-FILE-6etwzrikqnyxzsd2jd7i\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/rempt\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"117282\" id=\"117282\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_114\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/rempt\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003erempt\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#117282\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_113\"\u003eNov 7 2017, 3:42 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_111\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_112\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_54\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eWe probably also should take a good, hard look at the default workspaces and palettes and so on.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-117283\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_124\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/pcztdlut3jypkh2ysh77\/PHID-FILE-rdca27hfg7odu4mtqi6i\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/scottpetrovic\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"117283\" id=\"117283\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_123\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/scottpetrovic\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003escottpetrovic\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#117283\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_122\"\u003eNov 7 2017, 3:51 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_120\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_121\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_55\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/rempt\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_0\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@rempt\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e we could take a look at that for this ticket. I am afraid that might start making this task a bit more difficult to have a conversation around. There will be different areas being discussed at the same time which might make it hard to stay on track. We can try it though. If it ends up being difficult, we can always break it apart into multiple tasks.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIn terms of variety, I think it would be good to show more types of pixel brushes. Things like a fire brush, smoke brush, foliage brushes would be good. I also think having the Alchemy "pull brush" (chaos brush) would be neat. Not many applications can do it, so I think it would be nice if we had one or two of those.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003col class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/forum.kde.org\/viewtopic.php?f=274&t=111068\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/forum.kde.org\/viewtopic.php?f=274&t=111068\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/bugs.kde.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=319446\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/bugs.kde.org\/show_bug.cgi?id=319446\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"embedded-youtube-video\"\u003e\u003ciframe width=\"650\" height=\"400\" style=\"margin: 1em auto; border: 0px;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/D7w-Y8PH764\" frameborder=\"0\"\u003e\u003c\/iframe\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ol\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-117284\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_133\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/c4a3sclaxjd3no6rrsap\/PHID-FILE-cxupvlljozgfmovbc57e\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/radianart\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"117284\" id=\"117284\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_132\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/radianart\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eradianart\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#117284\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_131\"\u003eNov 7 2017, 4:29 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_129\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_130\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_56\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eBrush tips that isn't useful from my opinion:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e3_brush, 3_dotted flat, 3_eroded or A-17 Knife eroded, 3_flat-brush, A -52 bokey, A-4 bamboo, A-4 distant mountain, A-4 Fur, A-4 Pin, A-4 snowpack, A_abstact_textured_2, A_angular_crurch (we don't need 2 of them), A_cloudy, A_cracled, A_nice sketch (2 of them too), F_fur fast, G_sparks, L_Coroballs, all of M_* tips (they are too situative), O-Oils 1 (doubled), P_Graphite_Black_Grass, P_Graphite_Pencil, rake_textured_02 (doubled), Sc_Scratches, T_Fibers_1 and 2, Te_Techno_Angular_Cross, U_Circle_shape_1 - 5, Vyle rock, Z_Test-pressure, z_study_pencil_2H and H (we don't need both horizontal and vertical tips), Z_Triangle_shape_1 and 2\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003ethese are either too small or low quality or too rarely useful.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI also think there is too much brush tips for leaves and vegetables, rake tips, probably texture tips.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-117289\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_142\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/zhbsedkcyf2pxccp3izr\/PHID-FILE-dy7wxs7ieprpsfi6sjs7\/profile-2013-04-24_screenshot_100x100.jpg)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Deevad\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"117289\" id=\"117289\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_141\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Deevad\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eDeevad\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#117289\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_140\"\u003eNov 7 2017, 5:15 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_138\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_139\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_57\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI like this topic. I'll be around.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eref: Alchemy brush for Krita by Ghevan made in 2013: \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/forum.kde.org\/viewtopic.php?f=274&t=111068\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/forum.kde.org\/viewtopic.php?f=274&t=111068\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/radianart\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_1\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@radianart\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e : Maybe we need a collaborative table online to do something like :\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-table-wrap\"\u003e\u003ctable class=\"remarkup-table\"\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003erad\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003edeevad\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003escottyp\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003eboud\u003c\/td\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003ctd\u003epresetnameA\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003eX\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003eX\u003c\/td\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003ctd\u003epresetnameB\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003eX\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003eX\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003eX\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003eX\u003c\/td\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003ctd\u003epresetnameC\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u003c\/td\u003e\u003ctd\u003e\u003c\/td\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\u003c\/tr\u003e\n\u003c\/table\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-117294\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_152\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/pcztdlut3jypkh2ysh77\/PHID-FILE-rdca27hfg7odu4mtqi6i\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/scottpetrovic\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"117294\" id=\"117294\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_151\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/scottpetrovic\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003escottpetrovic\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003eEdited\u003cspan class=\"visual-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"#117294\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_150\"\u003eNov 7 2017, 6:55 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_148\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_149\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_58\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Deevad\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_2\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Deevad\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wow. while reading that forum post... I didn't realize that you can have SVG brush tips be imported.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e"I tried what Lukas replied. Single shape svg are already supported for brushes! wow, I'll try to make something out of this for sure."\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI just made a small SVG in inkscape and put it in my brushes folder. Krita read it right in... now no pixelation on big brush sizes. that is really nice.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-117296\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_162\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/pcztdlut3jypkh2ysh77\/PHID-FILE-rdca27hfg7odu4mtqi6i\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/scottpetrovic\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"117296\" id=\"117296\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_161\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/scottpetrovic\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003escottpetrovic\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003eEdited\u003cspan class=\"visual-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"#117296\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_160\"\u003eNov 7 2017, 8:20 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_158\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_159\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_59\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI started a spreadsheet with all the presets and brush tips that we currently have. I think this is read-only right now.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/docs.google.com\/spreadsheets\/d\/1wG82XO_NnMlsMSfccPjzgR2okBzU6ekr5RpZm5MvmVA\/edit?usp=sharing\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/docs.google.com\/spreadsheets\/d\/1wG82XO_NnMlsMSfccPjzgR2okBzU6ekr5RpZm5MvmVA\/edit?usp=sharing\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI can make it editable if we think this might work. We need to figure out...\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003ehow to organize these\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003ehow to name them (remove the brush sizes for example)\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003ewhat brush tips to add\/remove\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003ewhat brush presets to add\/remove\/update\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\n\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-117418\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_171\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/c4a3sclaxjd3no6rrsap\/PHID-FILE-cxupvlljozgfmovbc57e\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/radianart\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"117418\" id=\"117418\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_170\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/radianart\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eradianart\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#117418\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_169\"\u003eNov 8 2017, 4:13 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_167\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_168\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_60\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eSome bristle comments:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003col class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eBristles_mix, Bristles_textured and Bristles_wet - not a good brush, it makes blurry and kinda weird edges, hard to control, there is better brushes for painting and blending\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eBlock_bristles - may use more quality tip, brush itself is fine\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eBristle_frottis - it's fine but I don't have an idea when and where it can be used\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ol\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI don't know what to say about brushes from bristle engine, they are too weird, I don't like single one of them.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-117419\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_180\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/fey4l6zvpdjjruqn5z3h\/PHID-FILE-6etwzrikqnyxzsd2jd7i\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/rempt\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"117419\" id=\"117419\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_179\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/rempt\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003erempt\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#117419\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_178\"\u003eNov 8 2017, 4:19 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_176\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_177\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_61\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI think we should start from the beginning here.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eMake a list of brush engines, and what each brush engine is good for, artistically not technically\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eDivide the artistic process in phases, or modes, or purposes and match those to the engines\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eCreate presets that work with those steps or modes in the artistic process\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-117420\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_190\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/pcztdlut3jypkh2ysh77\/PHID-FILE-rdca27hfg7odu4mtqi6i\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/scottpetrovic\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"117420\" id=\"117420\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_189\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/scottpetrovic\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003escottpetrovic\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003eEdited\u003cspan class=\"visual-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"#117420\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_188\"\u003eNov 8 2017, 4:23 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_186\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_187\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_62\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phabricator-remarkup-mention-unknown\"\u003e@boud\u003c\/span\u003e: I started categorizing the brush presets on their function. We probably need to modify them...but this is my first pass. I might need to make this editable.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/docs.google.com\/spreadsheets\/d\/1wG82XO_NnMlsMSfccPjzgR2okBzU6ekr5RpZm5MvmVA\/edit?usp=sharing\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/docs.google.com\/spreadsheets\/d\/1wG82XO_NnMlsMSfccPjzgR2okBzU6ekr5RpZm5MvmVA\/edit?usp=sharing\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-117423\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_199\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/iwjpsu4ldokmyhuxqpcd\/PHID-FILE-5bkrs5nj7wjoamq55f3g\/profile-thera.png)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/woltherav\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"117423\" id=\"117423\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_198\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/woltherav\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003ewoltherav\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#117423\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_197\"\u003eNov 8 2017, 6:17 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_195\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_196\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_63\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI would encourage just putting everything aside and starting with:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003col class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eGood brushes for...\u003col class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003esketching\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003efilling\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eline-art\/inking\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003etextured strokes\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003emixing strokes\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eblurring (blur, softblur type of things)\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003ecorrection (move, clone, contrast)\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eDesign\/special effects.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eErasers.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ol\u003e\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eSome optional "what krita can do"-presets. Not too many.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ol\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eLike, literally putting all the kpp files into a different folder and only copying them back when they feel like they are good enough for their purpose. The sketching and filling brushes should not have to be high quality, but they should be fast. The lineart brushes should be high quality, the textured strokes should give nice textures, mixing should give interesting mixes in different ways, etc.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-117425\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_208\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/pcztdlut3jypkh2ysh77\/PHID-FILE-rdca27hfg7odu4mtqi6i\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/scottpetrovic\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"117425\" id=\"117425\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_207\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/scottpetrovic\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003escottpetrovic\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#117425\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_206\"\u003eNov 8 2017, 6:53 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_204\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_205\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_64\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/woltherav\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_6\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@woltherav\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e \u003ca href=\"\/p\/rempt\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_5\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@rempt\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e \u003cspan class=\"phabricator-remarkup-mention-unknown\"\u003e@rad\u003c\/span\u003e \u003ca href=\"\/p\/Deevad\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_4\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Deevad\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI made the google spreadsheet shareable\/editable for everyone\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/docs.google.com\/spreadsheets\/d\/1wG82XO_NnMlsMSfccPjzgR2okBzU6ekr5RpZm5MvmVA\/edit?usp=sharing\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/docs.google.com\/spreadsheets\/d\/1wG82XO_NnMlsMSfccPjzgR2okBzU6ekr5RpZm5MvmVA\/edit?usp=sharing\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI have multiple tabs. I have one set of tabs for what is currently in 3.0. Another set of tabs with what we want in 4.0\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003ewith \u003ca href=\"\/p\/woltherav\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_3\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@woltherav\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e  comment... I started the categories like she described. My only question is if we want the categories that abstract, or more concrete with things like pastels, oils, painting, etc.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eFeel free to add existing 3.0 presets to the 4.0 list...or give suggestions about other new presets we might want to use.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-117426\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_218\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/iwjpsu4ldokmyhuxqpcd\/PHID-FILE-5bkrs5nj7wjoamq55f3g\/profile-thera.png)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/woltherav\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"117426\" id=\"117426\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_217\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/woltherav\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003ewoltherav\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003eEdited\u003cspan class=\"visual-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"#117426\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_216\"\u003eNov 8 2017, 6:56 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_214\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_215\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_65\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eHere's my "Best off" of each of the categories I mentioned, for what it is worth...\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/742vkxsldyi35kwebiy2\/PHID-FILE-nl3kbnudjo4hisg5yhhl\/examples_bruhses.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_7\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/rrub4o3ruq6x7rz4ercw\/PHID-FILE-3e4k24zcvudqgjnuj32s\/preview-examples_bruhses.png\" width=\"155.53021664766\" height=\"220\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI also realised that maybe we should seperate (sfx\/design) brushes from the speedpaint brushes.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI think we should keep them workflow focussed rather than say "oils" and "crayons". Like, if a brush resembles a pencil mention it, but otherwise I don't see the point of it.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eEDIT: I added my picks and thoughts as comments to each section in the spreadsheet.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-117454\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_227\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/ktevmj3uwxzka6qbdb24\/PHID-FILE-7oxoyqphn54clqvbywrw\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/rjquiralta\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"117454\" id=\"117454\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_226\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/rjquiralta\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003erjquiralta\u003c\/a\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/rjquiralta\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_66\"\u003erjquiralta\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#117454\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_225\"\u003eNov 8 2017, 9:10 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_223\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_224\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_67\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eMy two cents: To me, less is more, I found some brushes to be repetitive and redundant, I think the least amount of brushes provided by default that can show the great amount of customization could do good for the presentation of the program, this is, at times the difference between presets is minimal, a good show case will include say two presets of the same engine with a totally different group of parameters\/values. This is obviously directly proportional to the parameters each engine offers, more=more presets offered.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eNowadays many people are making their own, having a small, consistent and substantial set of default brushes could encourage users to download other people's sets and\/or make their own. (a good user case for the web integration I'm thinking). Bloating Krita with too many brushes presets could be overwhelming for the user, ending not using many of those or not knowing where to look into.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eSame goes for brush tips, they seem a bit random, basic shapes should be offered as first level (circles, triangles,etc.), followed by more stylized ones, similar dimensions and consistency, no need for more than one size of the same, (not sure if applicable here as I can't recall any more the main set from my added ones). Also if some tips belong to a specific preset, I think it should be noted in part of its name. Just to make sure people don't get rid of them unknowingly of the result.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-117460\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_236\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/iwjpsu4ldokmyhuxqpcd\/PHID-FILE-5bkrs5nj7wjoamq55f3g\/profile-thera.png)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/woltherav\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"117460\" id=\"117460\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_235\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/woltherav\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003ewoltherav\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#117460\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_234\"\u003eNov 8 2017, 9:51 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_232\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_233\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_68\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eBloating Krita with too many brushes presets could be overwhelming for the user, ending not using many of those or not knowing where to look into.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eA part of me feels we should have nothing but basic_tip_default and eraser_circle, but I think that might be a bit too extreme for people. I do feel we can cut down the brush presets by half, hence my top... uh... lemme count... 36 :p (And I of course tend towards many different lineart brushes, so that might be my bias)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eMaybe if people can get their own preferences in, and explain why they like these specific presets? Then we can narrow down what the base presets should do :)\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-117461\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_246\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/zbyas5jeifh4mthkuh2w\/PHID-FILE-7xe7hrswhk52ylvjntyp\/alphanumeric_aleo-white_M.png-_ec8794-255%2C255%2C255%2C0.7.png)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/mangatengu\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"117461\" id=\"117461\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_245\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/mangatengu\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003emangatengu\u003c\/a\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/mangatengu\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_69\"\u003emangatengu\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003eEdited\u003cspan class=\"visual-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"#117461\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_244\"\u003eNov 8 2017, 10:06 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_242\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_243\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_70\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI'm with the idea of providing a small (compared to the actual) and well rounded brush pack with which people will feel able to quickly do stuff. The most uncomfortable situation is to scroll accross a long list of useless brushes that are all the same, except...the green pepper brush. Yeah I'm looking at you gimp !\u003cbr \/\u003e\nAnd for people to feel able to quickly do stuff, you need to showcase the brushes. David Revoy knows his stuff and he already made a very nice job of presenting his bundle.\u003cbr \/\u003e\nI've always been very unfriendly with downloading a big brushset from a well known artist and get lost in duplets and useless garbage, no matter how big the artist is. But the deevad bundle is so well presented I went with it (actually it's the only one I got).\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eNow the thing is, you have a lot of brush engines shiped with krita, and it would be a loss not to be able to give people a bait to try them. \u003cbr \/\u003e\nSo I don't think removing brushes is what we need. Krita is ridiculously light compared to commercial programs.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWhat can be done is a starter tag which will be selected by default with a well rounded selection of brushes.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eHow about making a contest about that well rounded starter bundle ?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-117475\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_255\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/ktevmj3uwxzka6qbdb24\/PHID-FILE-7oxoyqphn54clqvbywrw\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/rjquiralta\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"117475\" id=\"117475\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_254\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/rjquiralta\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003erjquiralta\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#117475\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_253\"\u003eNov 9 2017, 4:43 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_251\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_252\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_71\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI don't mean to cut down everything :D but rather I'm referring to the sets \u003cem\u003elike ink_circle, ink_gpen, ink_tilt, pencil2b\/hb\u003c\/em\u003e, (all of these have sets of two with very small variations, mostly size\/flow\/tip\/opacity) same goes for \u003cem\u003eoils\u003c\/em\u003e, \u003cem\u003ethe quick_circles\u003c\/em\u003e, etc. this just out of my head. I think Krita can perfectly do just fine with only one of each of these, I, as a user, like like to have variety, but one that really varies : ) like between pencil, pen, inkpen, but having a lot of each of these feels busy on the eye and confusing at times.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThe ability now to switch some settings on the quick with the python dockers and the popup palette makes having multiples of presets like these a bit redundant.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eEither case, is good to see that the initiative of updating the defaults is in motion. Going to place a poll on G+ and Facebook, maybe the same should be done on the other venues to see what people would like.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-117478\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_264\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/zhbsedkcyf2pxccp3izr\/PHID-FILE-dy7wxs7ieprpsfi6sjs7\/profile-2013-04-24_screenshot_100x100.jpg)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Deevad\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"117478\" id=\"117478\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_263\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Deevad\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eDeevad\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#117478\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_262\"\u003eNov 9 2017, 6:37 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_260\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_261\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_72\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T7424#117426\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_9\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT7424#117426\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/woltherav\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_12\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@woltherav\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/742vkxsldyi35kwebiy2\/PHID-FILE-nl3kbnudjo4hisg5yhhl\/examples_bruhses.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_8\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/rrub4o3ruq6x7rz4ercw\/PHID-FILE-3e4k24zcvudqgjnuj32s\/preview-examples_bruhses.png\" width=\"155.53021664766\" height=\"220\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI like your list \u003ca href=\"\/p\/woltherav\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_11\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@woltherav\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e . Thank you \u003ca href=\"\/p\/scottpetrovic\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_10\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@scottpetrovic\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e for the spreadsheet.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eQuestion: Are you switching tag when drawing\/painting?\u003c\/strong\u003e \u003cbr \/\u003e\n(switching from a "inking" to a "coloring", then "sketching"...etc..).\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-117479\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_273\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/zbyas5jeifh4mthkuh2w\/PHID-FILE-7xe7hrswhk52ylvjntyp\/alphanumeric_aleo-white_M.png-_ec8794-255%2C255%2C255%2C0.7.png)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/mangatengu\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"117479\" id=\"117479\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_272\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/mangatengu\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003emangatengu\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#117479\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_271\"\u003eNov 9 2017, 7:33 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_269\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_270\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_73\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI do change tags when I'm constrained to, and I always feel cut in my workflow when doing this. Because I then get a brush and switch back to the first tag.\u003cbr \/\u003e\nA nice to have would be a history of a parametrable number of last used brushes. Like we have for the colors history\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-117480\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_282\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/c4a3sclaxjd3no6rrsap\/PHID-FILE-cxupvlljozgfmovbc57e\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/radianart\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"117480\" id=\"117480\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_281\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/radianart\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eradianart\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#117480\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_280\"\u003eNov 9 2017, 7:47 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_278\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_279\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_74\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003col class=\"remarkup-list\" start=\"4\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003etextured strokes\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003emixing strokes\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ol\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis is job for me! Maybe it's too early to suggest stacked brushes but I think this is what people want (me at least). \u003cbr \/\u003e\nThis is brushes I use the most.\u003cbr \/\u003e\nI think it's better to try these mixing brushes yourself, picture doesn't show how it feels.\u003cbr \/\u003e\nOne little soft brush as bonus :)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/pnstevehdo4q35f5wrsr\/PHID-FILE-aa6be4zbrhvxpmq5ofqp\/br.jpg\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_13\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/unrsaiqjksrrknvm2b6p\/PHID-FILE-646xbcznen4nenowuq6c\/preview-br.jpg\" width=\"220\" height=\"141.42857142857\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-117508\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_293\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/fey4l6zvpdjjruqn5z3h\/PHID-FILE-6etwzrikqnyxzsd2jd7i\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/rempt\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"117508\" id=\"117508\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_292\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/rempt\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003erempt\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#117508\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_291\"\u003eNov 9 2017, 8:41 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_289\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_290\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_75\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-code-block\" data-code-lang=\"text\" data-sigil=\"remarkup-code-block\"\u003e\u003cpre class=\"remarkup-code\"\u003eA nice to have would be a history of a parametrable number of last used brushes. Like we have for the colors history\u003c\/pre\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eSettings\/Dockers\/Brush Preset History\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-117512\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_302\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/zhbsedkcyf2pxccp3izr\/PHID-FILE-dy7wxs7ieprpsfi6sjs7\/profile-2013-04-24_screenshot_100x100.jpg)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Deevad\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"117512\" id=\"117512\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_301\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Deevad\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eDeevad\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#117512\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_300\"\u003eNov 9 2017, 9:26 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_298\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_299\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_76\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eProposal:\u003c\/strong\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\nMake Krita open by default a tag "Basic". This tag contains the future brush kit we are speaking here, friendly, clean for general usage.\u003cbr \/\u003e\nThen propose other tags: "Favorite" to let the user make her\/his shopping, "Natural media" with a lot more specific natural looking textured brushes, "Experimental" with purely digital looking brush-engines, "Pixel-art" with aliased brushes for pixel artist, "Pattern and Texturing" with a huge library of patterns and textures, "Normal map" with specific preset for 3D artists. Of course, "All" tag will still exist (and be obviously a mess) but no longer the one considered by default nor on top of the tag list. With a system like that, you can even embed a tag for old 3.x brushes... Bonus point if all this "tag" could be activated\/deactivated by the user like bundle :-)\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-117518\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_312\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/r6fya4qekmmknt6gtv7s\/PHID-FILE-ucqx7e5j74eggb2oxzir\/alphanumeric_lato-white_R.png-_45a998-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.png)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/razvanr\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"117518\" id=\"117518\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-user-plus phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_311\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/razvanr\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003erazvanr\u003c\/a\u003e added a subscriber: \u003ca href=\"\/p\/razvanr\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_77\"\u003erazvanr\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003eEdited\u003cspan class=\"visual-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"#117518\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_310\"\u003eNov 9 2017, 12:17 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_308\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_309\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_78\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eMy beef with Krita v3 default presets is 2 things: redundancy and low quality. There are a lot of brush tips (especially foliage, flowers, leaves, etc.) that are extremely low quality. If you increase the brush size a bit they become pixelated and so they're useless with even medium-large resolutions (2-3K). Most patterns also suffer from this and that pattern scaling algorithm can be improved. If you take for example the dots pattern and scale it (no matter the value) it completely destroys the pattern, if it's anything other than scale 1 it's useless. So with all this in mind I made my own brush pack and I think it mostly follows the same category pattern you're talking about, I have them divided in A (digital), B (textured), C (traditional), D (environment - rocks, foliage, trees etc. - least used by myself), E (experimental - all sorts of cool presets), F (stamps). You can check out the pack here (completely free and opensource): \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/goo.gl\/Z8EofO\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/goo.gl\/Z8EofO\u003c\/a\u003e and if you find anything useful let me know, we can change up the brush thumb to make it compatible for v4 and all that.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eOther than that, I don't think I have much more to say compared to above. For me 1. we need to remove useless and redundant presets, improve the quality of the brush tips and do something about that pattern scaling algorithm. I just read that SVGs can be used for brush tips, never knew that. Can the brush size be increased with no loss of quality if SVG is used?! That would be amazing.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-117520\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_322\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/iwjpsu4ldokmyhuxqpcd\/PHID-FILE-5bkrs5nj7wjoamq55f3g\/profile-thera.png)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/woltherav\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"117520\" id=\"117520\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_321\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/woltherav\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003ewoltherav\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003eEdited\u003cspan class=\"visual-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"#117520\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_320\"\u003eNov 9 2017, 12:21 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_318\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_319\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_79\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe problem with that(having seperate tags for everything) is that it requires a rewrite of the tags and resources system that is still going to have to wait.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAt best we can bundle everything seperately and load those bundles(which could then be turned off), but for example, having bundles that are deactivated by default is not possible with the current resources system.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eLike, we're proly gonna have share.krita.org integration before we will have the resources system rewritten. This is why I am pushing for reducing the amount of default presets to useful base presets that are more or less the pencil-eraser-fineliner of  digital art. Then there's\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003col class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eLess maintainance that needs to be done. I dunno if you remember this, but Scott has attempted multiple times to make the basic presets faster by default on windows. If there's less presets, there's less to worry about. This also shifts the burden of certain presets onto the bundle maintainers, wh were going to update their presets to begin with.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eThere's also less maintainance when new features are added or broken features are removed.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ol\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eFor SVGs, they, uh, they just get imported as 1K sized brush textures. The code isn't very complicated or capable of complexity at the moment:\u003cbr \/\u003e\n\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/source\/krita\/browse\/master\/libs\/brush\/kis_svg_brush.cpp;3b81a464cdda251b8888b78834fe8e6d458aba4b$62\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/source\/krita\/browse\/master\/libs\/brush\/kis_svg_brush.cpp;3b81a464cdda251b8888b78834fe8e6d458aba4b$62\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-117532\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_331\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/c4a3sclaxjd3no6rrsap\/PHID-FILE-cxupvlljozgfmovbc57e\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/radianart\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"117532\" id=\"117532\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_330\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/radianart\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eradianart\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#117532\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_329\"\u003eNov 9 2017, 1:29 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_327\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_328\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_80\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eProposal:\u003cbr \/\u003e\nMake Krita open by default a tag "Basic". This tag contains the future brush kit we are speaking here, friendly, clean for general usage...\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis doesn't solve the problem of too many useless presets. \u003cbr \/\u003e\nI don't think we need brushes for everything by default. Just 2 or 3 dozen of good brushes what will be enough for 80% cases. You need many different textured brushes? - welcome to share.krita.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eBrush tips and textures is little different case. We can have more of them if user will want to play with options.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-117533\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_340\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/r6fya4qekmmknt6gtv7s\/PHID-FILE-ucqx7e5j74eggb2oxzir\/alphanumeric_lato-white_R.png-_45a998-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.png)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/razvanr\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"117533\" id=\"117533\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_339\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/razvanr\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003erazvanr\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#117533\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_338\"\u003eNov 9 2017, 2:13 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_336\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_337\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_81\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI'm all for more brush tips and textures with 1 condition. High quality. Many of the default ones in v3 need a lot of rework and they need to be fixed. I don't even understand how some of the 512x512 textures can be that bad, it seems like the native scaling (x1 scale) is low quality to begin with. So I'd definitely like less presets with higher quality brush tips\/textures, 2-3 dozen sounds good to me and once you have a variety of nice brush tips you can easily make your own presets without searching for extra textures\/images etc. I like this idea.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-117547\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_350\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/pcztdlut3jypkh2ysh77\/PHID-FILE-rdca27hfg7odu4mtqi6i\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/scottpetrovic\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"117547\" id=\"117547\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_349\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/scottpetrovic\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003escottpetrovic\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003eEdited\u003cspan class=\"visual-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"#117547\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_348\"\u003eNov 9 2017, 2:46 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_346\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_347\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_82\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Deevad\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_18\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@Deevad\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e - I think if someone starts krita for the first time, they won't understand the idea of tags. I personally think we should show all presets at the start. This can answer their first question of "what brushes does krita come with". If people want to start filtering and searching, they then need to learn about how tags and searching works. I think if we do an ok job with our naming convention, showing all presets by default should be ok. I think the list of presets in 4.0 is going to be less than 3.0.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/razvanr\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_17\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@razvanr\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e \u003ca href=\"\/p\/rjquiralta\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_16\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@rjquiralta\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e \u003ca href=\"\/p\/mangatengu\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_15\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@mangatengu\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e   I think with 4.0, the total number of brush tips is going to be a lot less. You are right we have a lot of bad tips and presets in there now and need to clean it up. We currently have 160+. At first glance a lot seems nice, but many of those are not very good like you are stating. Make your comments on the spreadsheet with what 4.0 might need to include. We are starting from scratch with 4.0 presets and tips, so you don't have to mention what to remove. Just mention what to include. This can be existing presets in 3.0 that are good, or new presets that we might need to create or add.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/docs.google.com\/spreadsheets\/d\/1wG82XO_NnMlsMSfccPjzgR2okBzU6ekr5RpZm5MvmVA\/edit?usp=sharing\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003ehttps:\/\/docs.google.com\/spreadsheets\/d\/1wG82XO_NnMlsMSfccPjzgR2okBzU6ekr5RpZm5MvmVA\/edit?usp=sharing\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/radianart\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_14\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@radianart\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e - I am sure we can eventually add stacked brush presets...but that isn't done yet. We shouldn't worry about that right now. We can add those whenever that feature is added.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThere are quite a few people that will probably make comments on it, so you could put your name in parenthesis to make it more clear who is saying what (deevad), (scottpetrovic), etc...\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-117548\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_359\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/c4a3sclaxjd3no6rrsap\/PHID-FILE-cxupvlljozgfmovbc57e\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/radianart\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"117548\" id=\"117548\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_358\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/radianart\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eradianart\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#117548\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_357\"\u003eNov 9 2017, 3:11 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_355\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_356\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_83\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T7424#117547\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_19\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT7424#117547\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/scottpetrovic\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_20\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@scottpetrovic\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/radianart\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_21\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@radianart\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e - I am sure we can eventually add stacked brush presets...but that isn't done yet. We shouldn't worry about that right now. We can add those whenever that feature is added.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThen we will have repetitive and redundant presets again. Point is stacked brushes can replace some animated brushes and be much better. If stacked brushes will be implemented relatively soon I'd prefer to have better presets.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-117549\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_368\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/pcztdlut3jypkh2ysh77\/PHID-FILE-rdca27hfg7odu4mtqi6i\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/scottpetrovic\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"117549\" id=\"117549\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_367\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/scottpetrovic\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003escottpetrovic\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#117549\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_366\"\u003eNov 9 2017, 4:21 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_364\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_365\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_84\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/radianart\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_22\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@radianart\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e we can't add presets that aren't even possible to make yet. We don't even know what features stacked brushes will include. Once stacked brushes get in to master, we can be add new ones and remove other that become redundant. We can only work now with what we have.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-117555\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_377\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/iwjpsu4ldokmyhuxqpcd\/PHID-FILE-5bkrs5nj7wjoamq55f3g\/profile-thera.png)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/woltherav\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"117555\" id=\"117555\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_376\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/woltherav\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003ewoltherav\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#117555\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_375\"\u003eNov 9 2017, 5:12 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_373\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_374\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_85\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThere's a good chance that we haven t decided on the full set until after stacked brushes are in. So how about this:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eFocus on the brushes that don't need stacked brushes, with some ideas of what the textured brushes should ACHIEVE(not how they achieve it, but just what itch they should scratch), and then deal with them after stacked brushes are in to see if stacked brushes can do them better than the other options. There is still several categories worth of brushes to discuss.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-117560\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_386\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/zhbsedkcyf2pxccp3izr\/PHID-FILE-dy7wxs7ieprpsfi6sjs7\/profile-2013-04-24_screenshot_100x100.jpg)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Deevad\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"117560\" id=\"117560\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_385\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Deevad\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eDeevad\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#117560\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_384\"\u003eNov 9 2017, 7:43 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_382\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_383\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_86\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThank you for the answers.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/woltherav\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_25\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@woltherav\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e : Good point about managing the maintainance. I have a pretty good idea about it too. Thanks for the detailed reply.\u003cbr \/\u003e\n\u003ca href=\"\/p\/scottpetrovic\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_24\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@scottpetrovic\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e : Ok, lets keep focus on a single list of good default.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003emockup : brush WYSWYG preview \u003c\/strong\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\nIn my opinion, brush square icons ("painted icon"\/"custom graphic") will never solve predictability in brush preset selection for a new user.\u003cbr \/\u003e\nMy brush kit kinda works for those following my work since almost a decade, because I use same shapes and color codes; since Mypaint days(2009) to now.\u003cbr \/\u003e\nI achieved a mini language of brushes. But it is full of "cultural code" and doesn't make sens for newcomers. (eg. Basse asked me on IRC "What is this icon with a green potion?"; Al.chemy = "cultural code"). It's the same issue with the default brush-kit. An icon of a pencil will always be referred to different vision of \u003cem\u003ehow a pencil should behave\u003c\/em\u003e.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThat's why I'm proposing to show a brush preview: this will be friendly for a new user, to discover a list of brush presets, and would make sens when we can test the potential of the new brush-editor preview. (note: I have no idea how hard it could be to code.) I'm just thinking visually. Also, I'm more and more thinking if a thing like this is possible technically, I would be interested to work also on mockup for squary-small-preview autogenerated. They would totally replace the "painted icon"\/"custom graphic" paradigm...\u003cbr \/\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/old2jvr5qhknowibxlt3\/PHID-FILE-4e6rxvvp7mftnvwb6yte\/Screenshot_from_2017-11-09_20-05-14.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_23\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/go5xlunqlpmmrkoqiwp3\/PHID-FILE-bqtf2pu52pvmove62f52\/preview-Screenshot_from_2017-11-09_20-05-14.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"151.10438729198\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-117561\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_395\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/iwjpsu4ldokmyhuxqpcd\/PHID-FILE-5bkrs5nj7wjoamq55f3g\/profile-thera.png)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/woltherav\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"117561\" id=\"117561\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_394\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/woltherav\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003ewoltherav\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#117561\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_393\"\u003eNov 9 2017, 7:54 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_391\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_392\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_87\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e... I uh... am a little lost what a detailed change to the brush preset docker code has to do with the default brushes, perhaps it is better to make a seperate task for that? :D\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-117562\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_405\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/r6fya4qekmmknt6gtv7s\/PHID-FILE-ucqx7e5j74eggb2oxzir\/alphanumeric_lato-white_R.png-_45a998-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.png)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/razvanr\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"117562\" id=\"117562\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_404\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/razvanr\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003erazvanr\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003eEdited\u003cspan class=\"visual-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"#117562\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_403\"\u003eNov 9 2017, 8:01 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_401\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_402\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_88\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eYes, I agree about the separate task. Actually this is a point I already raised in the "brush stroke preview" task (don't know the exact name). I said that the graphic icon should disappear entirely and be replaced with the generated stroke (preview stroke) because it's a real pain to maintain brushes especially cause you have to generate preset icons over and over and over... it's more than annoying, it's a real limitation. I still think we should remove the brush icon and move on to generated preview only. :)\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-117574\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_415\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/zhbsedkcyf2pxccp3izr\/PHID-FILE-dy7wxs7ieprpsfi6sjs7\/profile-2013-04-24_screenshot_100x100.jpg)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Deevad\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"117574\" id=\"117574\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_414\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Deevad\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eDeevad\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003eEdited\u003cspan class=\"visual-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"#117574\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_413\"\u003eNov 9 2017, 8:24 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_411\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_412\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_89\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/woltherav\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_29\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@woltherav\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e : Sorry about that. New feature is Offtopic, my mockup was as well. Mea culpa...\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eBut the \u003cstrong\u003eicon creation\u003c\/strong\u003e is on topic \u003cstrong\u003eand\u003c\/strong\u003e problematic ; \u003cbr \/\u003e\n because at the end of the day someone will have to draw and paint the brush icons for the new kit. Most of the icons of actual brushes in Krita default were painted by me; from a merge of \u003ca href=\"https:\/\/www.davidrevoy.com\/article180\/ressource-krita-brushes\" class=\"remarkup-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\"\u003emy brush-kit V3 from 2013\u003c\/a\u003e with icon desaturated by Animtim. Other one are often SVG vector tools (made by Ramon Miranda) quickly pasted or just duplicate paint-over modifications (eg. all Tangent_ ; all Sketch_ ...). So, maintaining good looking icon, and make each one of them unique, with a different shape and color to train memory is not easy.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eTo be more contructive:\u003c\/strong\u003e \u003cbr \/\u003e\nHere is my 2017 brush icon template *.kra with my guidelines.\u003cbr \/\u003e\nThere is indicator for: tool angle, tip of the tool, stroke gesture, limit when used in pop-up palette, background, unified drop shadow, and area for mini icon. I can provide a large library of painted icons. I painted a lot of them. Does someone propose something else ?\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003epreview\u003c\/strong\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/uoptszppci2edofzs3nx\/PHID-FILE-ipckgd2jey4zachplotv\/template_net.jpg\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_26\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/fjhr2gng4rtoyzh4hh5q\/PHID-FILE-ox5bkrcsohrm6jidzzf4\/preview-template_net.jpg\" width=\"220\" height=\"220\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eKrita file\u003c\/strong\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\n\u003cdiv href=\"\/F5484175\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-link \" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_27\" data-mustcapture=\"1\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-file-text-o phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-icon\" data-meta=\"0_28\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-info-block\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-name\"\u003etemplate.kra\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-info\"\u003e914 KB\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-download\" href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/download\/7nahsef26a52pww6g5dg\/PHID-FILE-kpi6gy4ze4yh3maysufp\/template.kra\"\u003eDownload\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-117578\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_424\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/iwjpsu4ldokmyhuxqpcd\/PHID-FILE-5bkrs5nj7wjoamq55f3g\/profile-thera.png)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/woltherav\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"117578\" id=\"117578\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_423\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/woltherav\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003ewoltherav\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#117578\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_422\"\u003eNov 9 2017, 9:00 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_420\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_421\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_90\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThat sounds good, I can pitch in to paint icons as well for alternative or missing icons. We can maybe set it up so that the new save window can let you choose from a set of prefabs that we make? Like, maybe make it a user resource, "preset icons", load all the images in that resource, and then fill a qcombobox with them(that'd look somewhat like the advanced color selector dropdown).\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI'd be fine taking the programming of said combobox as my little job the coming weeks?\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-117595\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_433\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/c4a3sclaxjd3no6rrsap\/PHID-FILE-cxupvlljozgfmovbc57e\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/radianart\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"117595\" id=\"117595\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_432\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/radianart\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eradianart\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#117595\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_431\"\u003eNov 10 2017, 9:34 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_429\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_430\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_91\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eAbout icons.\u003cbr \/\u003e\nCurrent icons have one advantage - they looks really nice. But looking nice isn't the main purpose of icons, icon should show user what to expect from this particular brush.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eMy points:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003col class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eFor majority brushes to show what brush does we just need a good brush stroke or two on the icon. So user can look at icon and see what result they'll get. It's good for most presets and engines because they are "just draw".\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eExceptions from p. 1 might be presets what is similar to some natural media, like pencil, pen, airbrush, eraser. For these small pencil\\pen\\etc icon will better explanation how brush looks and feels.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eNext group is brushes what needs some source to show effect. I mean smudge and probably deform brushes. For these we probably need a stroke + some visual feedback so user can see it's different from usual brushes. It can be small water icon or different background color or colored border. Probably good idea will be to have two kinds of this, one for brushes what only change the source and the other for brushes what also add color.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eAnd last group is what I call "effect brush". It's brushes what need some source as well but change it different way. It's filter brushes and brushes with different blending modes (overlay\\multiply\\color dodge\\burn\\etc). They should have another identificator (gear icon? different color?). For many of these is possible to make icon what shows the effect.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eWe might have some identificators for brush settings too, for tilt, maybe for fade, speed, fuzzy options, hsv dynamics.\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ol\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWhat way we will have relatively easy and understandable system. New users will understand how it work after trying a few brushes: user tried brush with water icon, see it also smudge, understand all brushes with this icon can smudge. The hard part is how to make it as cute as current icons :)\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-117616\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_443\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/r6fya4qekmmknt6gtv7s\/PHID-FILE-ucqx7e5j74eggb2oxzir\/alphanumeric_lato-white_R.png-_45a998-0%2C0%2C0%2C0.png)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/razvanr\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"117616\" id=\"117616\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_442\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/razvanr\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003erazvanr\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003eEdited\u003cspan class=\"visual-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"#117616\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_441\"\u003eNov 10 2017, 12:52 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_439\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_440\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_92\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI've been thinking about it, been looking at some other software and here's my comments on the brush icons issue (grid view - so square icons specifically).\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eFirst, my case against manual made icons (keeping in mind that I don't know how things changed in v4-pre-alpha): difficult to maintain, no standardization whatsoever imposed (there are guidelines but that's not enough), most people just end up splattering some paint in there (pretty much like what the paint stroke preview does) and don't look back on it again so if they change settings for some brushes, the icons (in 90% of the cases) won't be updated anyway. Second of all, anyone can do whatever they want with their brush icons, there is no way to impose any standardization so you end up with massively random icons (which might or might not be a good thing, still debatable, my view is it's wrong). Third, pencil, pen, brush, spatulas etc. icons are useless. Example: say you want to make a new pencil icon and use one of the thumbs from the default pack for that (too keep it standardized). What does that tell you? That the brush you make is pencil, how will you distinguish between that and the default preset? Maybe you change the color of the pencil icon. What about if a second brush maker comes along and makes a pencil (that is completely different from yours) but uses the same (by chance) default icon with same color? The beautiful pencil thumb will become just that, a beautiful thumb that is useless to distinguish between presets. If I were to choose (as brush maker and user alike) I'd choose functionality over aesthetics.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eSo now that my case against man-made thumbs is over with, working with a small square icon is difficult for creating anything good. I don't think we'll be able to make anything that will satisfy all so it's a matter of compromise. I have two (2 & 3 are pretty much the same :D) "bright" (that is... possibly not good enough) ideas:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003col class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003ename abbreviation + auto-generated paint stroke preview\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003ebrush tip + auto-generated paint stroke preview\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003ebrush tip + auto-generated paint stroke preview with name under thumb (see attached picture)\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ol\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eBefore you say anything I know you already discussed the brush tip + auto-generated stroke and voted against it. Let me show you how it could potentially look, maybe you'll have a change of heart. Other info such as tilt etc. can be shown with a small icon or something on the thumb (we have to keep in mind that the right-click menu has round icons... while the grid view offers square icons). I've made a mock-up for the thumb how it would look like in the F6 menu (used one of my the thumbs from my pack).\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI don't really have any better ideas at this time.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/v2wjxj26bbofpqhgalmw\/PHID-FILE-egldcqnhr7fcm5qxswz7\/thumb.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_30\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/goxeswq2yyi7n6fzor2v\/PHID-FILE-2qm7r5lnmy3bbllsiqag\/preview-thumb.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"110\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-117648\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_446\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/iwjpsu4ldokmyhuxqpcd\/PHID-FILE-5bkrs5nj7wjoamq55f3g\/profile-thera.png)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/woltherav\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"117648\" id=\"117648\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-shield phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_445\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/woltherav\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003ewoltherav\u003c\/a\u003e created subtask \u003ca href=\"\/T7435\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\"\u003eT7435: Brush tip preset library.\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#117648\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_444\"\u003eNov 10 2017, 2:25 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-117659\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_449\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/zhbsedkcyf2pxccp3izr\/PHID-FILE-dy7wxs7ieprpsfi6sjs7\/profile-2013-04-24_screenshot_100x100.jpg)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Deevad\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"117659\" id=\"117659\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_448\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Deevad\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eDeevad\u003c\/a\u003e mentioned this in \u003ca href=\"\/T7435\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\"\u003eT7435: Brush tip preset library.\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#117659\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_447\"\u003eNov 10 2017, 5:25 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-118326\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_458\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/c4a3sclaxjd3no6rrsap\/PHID-FILE-cxupvlljozgfmovbc57e\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/radianart\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"118326\" id=\"118326\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_457\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/radianart\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eradianart\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#118326\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_456\"\u003eNov 17 2017, 6:29 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_454\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_455\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_93\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eTurned out I cannot upload files to Preset and tips table so I made zip file with brushes and tips for them. Most of them have weird names and icons :|\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eSome comments:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eTex1 - very "hacky" brush, I really hope it will be replaced with stacked brush, though it's still useful for textured stuff (like shiny metal)\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eclone - use clone engine + texture for very paintery effect\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003esmudge1 - "oil_bristle" evolved to this one in my pack, it might not look so good at big size but it very handy for blending, also can paint\\erase at high pressure\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003esmudge2 - another experiment to make oil like brush, it blends colors at the start of stroke and give "oily" effect\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003esmudge3 - more "hard" kind of oil brush, I use it for breaking hard edges of for fur\\hairs\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003esmudge4 - experimental highly textured blender\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003ehardsoft - this brush uses texture to emulate flow without build up, it have hard edge but because of this "flow" it can give very soft edges (stolen from Anthony Jones, he use it a lot)\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cdiv href=\"\/F5495668\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-link \" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_31\" data-mustcapture=\"1\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-file-archive-o phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-icon\" data-meta=\"0_32\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-info-block\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-name\"\u003enew_def.zip\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-info\"\u003e2 MB\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-download\" href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/download\/hvmyzmbpw5jqwvt4xdfz\/PHID-FILE-k5r5xcd6ifuits3zqu4h\/new_def.zip\"\u003eDownload\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-118494\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_467\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/pcztdlut3jypkh2ysh77\/PHID-FILE-rdca27hfg7odu4mtqi6i\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/scottpetrovic\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"118494\" id=\"118494\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_466\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/scottpetrovic\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003escottpetrovic\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#118494\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_465\"\u003eNov 20 2017, 3:31 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_463\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_464\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_94\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/radianart\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_34\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@radianart\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e  - thanks for coming up with these brushes.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI can plug some of these into my branch I just started tonight. I can try to come up with a better name than things like "smudge1" that are a little more descriptive of what it is.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eBased off what I have in the branch so far there are 29 presets and 28 brush tips .  This is a quick preview of each preset...\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/qaoackda42eacoaa4ezr\/PHID-FILE-ekq7lbmxox5bjw5l7pex\/current-presets.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_33\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/csr4athf4rj2nkiwgkcv\/PHID-FILE-lyyixuqqkyhhub3jhmms\/preview-current-presets.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"119.57023060797\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThe areas that seem the most lacking are the following:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003einking presets\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003edesign\/fx (see spreadsheet for list of types of brushes)\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eairbrushes (need to be based on Allen's new alogorithm)\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAny other comments or feedback would be great.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-118542\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_476\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/c4a3sclaxjd3no6rrsap\/PHID-FILE-cxupvlljozgfmovbc57e\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/radianart\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"118542\" id=\"118542\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_475\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/radianart\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eradianart\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#118542\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_474\"\u003eNov 20 2017, 1:43 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_472\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_473\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_95\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eYeah, I'm not good at naming.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T7424#118494\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_35\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT7424#118494\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/scottpetrovic\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_36\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@scottpetrovic\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eAny other comments or feedback would be great.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI'm not sure we need:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003col class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eBlur filter brush (FX_blur) - maybe use another filter? Sharpness or contrast or desaturate\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eBrush with addition mode (FX_glow) - I'd use Multiply and Color dodge or maybe Hard overlay instead\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eOil bristle brush - just because I have better brush\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eSmudge rake and water - it isn't good :(\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eSmudge textured -  it isn't good but can be reworked to good smudge textured brush\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ol\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAlso not sure about 2 similar erasers...\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003einking presets - ask Wolthera I guess? She is more line art based\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003eFoliage and grass brushes for speed painting - I have good foliage brush tip but not grass (and default tips aren't good imo)\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eNot sure about shoujo bubbles and starfield brush presets but tips will be good.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eBrush tips is a bit harder, there is a lot of tips I'd transfer to new defaults.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-118543\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_485\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/iwjpsu4ldokmyhuxqpcd\/PHID-FILE-5bkrs5nj7wjoamq55f3g\/profile-thera.png)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/woltherav\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"118543\" id=\"118543\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_484\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/woltherav\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003ewoltherav\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#118543\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_483\"\u003eNov 20 2017, 2:03 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_481\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_482\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_96\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI would prefer to keep the blur brush as it is the only one that can provide proper blurring in 8bit.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAddition blending mode is also preferable to color-dodge as it actually works properly in the floating point spaces.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI won't have time to give lineart brushes and stuff yet as I'm busy with exams. Might come later this week.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-118547\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_494\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/pcztdlut3jypkh2ysh77\/PHID-FILE-rdca27hfg7odu4mtqi6i\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/scottpetrovic\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"118547\" id=\"118547\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_493\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/scottpetrovic\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003escottpetrovic\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#118547\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_492\"\u003eNov 20 2017, 2:17 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_490\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_491\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_97\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/radianart\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_37\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@radianart\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e - If you come up with a better version of one of those brushes, attach it on here. I can update it. If you also have certain brush tips you want to keep list them here. For now in my branch, I removed most of them that weren't used in presets. We can add useful ones back in now that it is at the "bare bones" stage.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-118560\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_503\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/c4a3sclaxjd3no6rrsap\/PHID-FILE-cxupvlljozgfmovbc57e\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/radianart\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"118560\" id=\"118560\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_502\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/radianart\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eradianart\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#118560\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_501\"\u003eNov 20 2017, 6:41 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_499\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_500\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_98\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T7424#118543\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_38\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT7424#118543\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/woltherav\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_42\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@woltherav\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eI would prefer to keep the blur brush as it is the only one that can provide proper blurring in 8bit.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003ePeople actually use Blur brush for blending? I think main problem is that blur radius is always 10px, if It would be related to brush size it will be pretty much same as sai blur brush.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eAddition blending mode is also preferable to color-dodge as it actually works properly in the floating point spaces.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eJust tested in 16 bit float. I see some color artifacts with hard overlay and addition, color dodge works fine. I suggest color dodge and hard overlay because they gives more correct result when used to add light to painting.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T7424#118547\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_39\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT7424#118547\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/scottpetrovic\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_40\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@scottpetrovic\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/radianart\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_41\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@radianart\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e - If you come up with a better version of one of those brushes, attach it on here. I can update it. If you also have certain brush tips you want to keep list them here. For now in my branch, I removed most of them that weren't used in presets. We can add useful ones back in now that it is at the "bare bones" stage.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI have better alternative for Oil bristle and Smudge rake in that zip file above. I can't imagine situation when I'd need Smudge rake, my smudge3 is much better for hair or fur for example. Smudge water look like brush for watercolor imitation? I think it can be improved too but I doubt it should be in defaults. I think we need more people to think :)\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAbout tips: I'm scared of writing all tips what I'd include. Maybe I'll make a bundle with them? With some of my own tips too.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-118562\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_512\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/iwjpsu4ldokmyhuxqpcd\/PHID-FILE-5bkrs5nj7wjoamq55f3g\/profile-thera.png)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/woltherav\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"118562\" id=\"118562\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_511\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/woltherav\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003ewoltherav\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#118562\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_510\"\u003eNov 20 2017, 9:51 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_508\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_509\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_99\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eJust tested in 16 bit float. I see some color artifacts with hard overlay and addition, color dodge works fine. I suggest color dodge and hard overlay because they gives more correct result when used to add light to painting.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThey don't. The math literally doesn't make sense if you have values above 1.0 for pure white. Color dodge has an explicit inversion in the maths so it doesn't work for such situations, and hard-overlay has it's mid point at 0.5, which is not always mid-gray in the floating point workflow. All color dodge does that makes it feel more "correct" is increase the difference between the channels which leads to more saturated results.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-118563\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_522\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/c4a3sclaxjd3no6rrsap\/PHID-FILE-cxupvlljozgfmovbc57e\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/radianart\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"118563\" id=\"118563\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_521\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/radianart\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eradianart\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003eEdited\u003cspan class=\"visual-only\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e \u00b7 \u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"#118563\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_520\"\u003eNov 21 2017, 7:08 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_518\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_519\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_100\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote class=\"remarkup-reply-block\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-head\"\u003eIn \u003ca href=\"\/T7424#118562\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-object \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_44\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core-closed\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-object\"\u003eT7424#118562\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"\/p\/woltherav\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_45\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@woltherav\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e wrote:\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"remarkup-reply-body\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eAll color dodge does that makes it feel more "correct" is increase the difference between the channels which leads to more saturated results.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\n\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eNo. It \u003cem\u003emakes \u003c\/em\u003emore correct result because it have act differently, depends on local value. Like Mutiply but for light. This is why I wanted mixed blending mode with Multiply and Color dodge (Hard overlay). \u003cbr \/\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/52rql3nwg3dixosaqzcv\/PHID-FILE-l5um4tlxlfqu33az73l2\/col.jpg\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_43\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/s2miwjc5cqeze5odv6pl\/PHID-FILE-dzwzcdri4mgvbaiubu3p\/preview-col.jpg\" width=\"220\" height=\"132\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe math literally doesn't make sense if you have values above 1.0 for pure white.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI don't get it, how value can be above 1.0?\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003ehard-overlay has it's mid point at 0.5, which is not always mid-gray in the floating point workflow\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIs this a problem? All color selectors doesn't have 0.5 value at the middle anyway (blues a little darker, yellow a little lighter).\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI never actually worked in floating point so I probably know nothing about it...\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-118564\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_533\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/fey4l6zvpdjjruqn5z3h\/PHID-FILE-6etwzrikqnyxzsd2jd7i\/profile)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/rempt\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"118564\" id=\"118564\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_532\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/rempt\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003erempt\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#118564\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_531\"\u003eNov 21 2017, 7:47 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_529\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_530\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_101\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eBecause in HDR, it can. That's what the floating point color \u003cbr \/\u003e\nspaces are for.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-118794\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_542\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/zhbsedkcyf2pxccp3izr\/PHID-FILE-dy7wxs7ieprpsfi6sjs7\/profile-2013-04-24_screenshot_100x100.jpg)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/Deevad\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"118794\" id=\"118794\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_541\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/Deevad\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003eDeevad\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#118794\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_540\"\u003eNov 24 2017, 11:14 AM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_538\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_539\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_102\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cblockquote\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003cdiv href=\"\/F5495668\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-link \" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_48\" data-mustcapture=\"1\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-file-archive-o phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-icon\" data-meta=\"0_49\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-info-block\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-name\"\u003enew_def.zip\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-info\"\u003e2 MB\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-download\" href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/download\/hvmyzmbpw5jqwvt4xdfz\/PHID-FILE-k5r5xcd6ifuits3zqu4h\/new_def.zip\"\u003eDownload\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/blockquote\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eI test your zip \u003ca href=\"\/p\/radianart\/\" class=\"phui-tag-view phui-tag-type-person \" data-sigil=\"hovercard\" data-meta=\"0_47\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-tag-core phui-tag-color-person\"\u003e@radianart\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e ; two presets shine in it more than the other in my opinion:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul class=\"remarkup-list\"\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003e010_Smudge_3\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003cli class=\"remarkup-list-item\"\u003e04_Text4\u003c\/li\u003e\n\u003c\/ul\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThey are good candidate for painterly softly textured presets.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-left\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/6yp7lvpuv5isvrjswz6y\/PHID-FILE-fbx4ng4phby3a4st2kjs\/Screenshot_from_2017-11-24_12-12-49.png\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-image\" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_46\"\u003e\u003cimg src=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/c64bhw42rlp6m25ncx3r\/PHID-FILE-jsuzqjjw3qioiztbd4t7\/preview-Screenshot_from_2017-11-24_12-12-49.png\" width=\"220\" height=\"130.72463768116\" \/\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-118825\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_551\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-major-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/iwjpsu4ldokmyhuxqpcd\/PHID-FILE-5bkrs5nj7wjoamq55f3g\/profile-thera.png)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/woltherav\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-inner-content\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"118825\" id=\"118825\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon phui-timeline-title-with-menu\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-comment phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_550\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/woltherav\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003ewoltherav\u003c\/a\u003e added a comment.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#118825\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_549\"\u003eNov 24 2017, 3:33 PM\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003ca href=\"#\" class=\"phui-timeline-menu\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" aria-expanded=\"false\" data-sigil=\"phui-dropdown-menu\" data-meta=\"0_547\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"aural-only\"\u003eComment Actions\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-caret-down\" data-meta=\"0_548\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-core-content\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"transaction-comment\" data-sigil=\"transaction-comment\" data-meta=\"0_103\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phabricator-remarkup\"\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003cdiv href=\"\/F5508948\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-link \" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_52\" data-mustcapture=\"1\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-file-archive-o phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-icon\" data-meta=\"0_53\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-info-block\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-name\"\u003ewoltherasuggestions.zip\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-info\"\u003e658 KB\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-download\" href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/download\/jh3ghjxh57jxwe5bykty\/PHID-FILE-qemikmgksyju2leiwprn\/woltherasuggestions.zip\"\u003eDownload\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cbr \/\u003e\nAlright, here's some of my suggestions.\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis contains inking presets, a basic preset using flow, a spray starfield, shoujo bubbles and hearts preset. The latter was adapted from my sfx pack. It also has a designy stars:\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cdiv href=\"\/F5508951\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer\" class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-link \" data-sigil=\"lightboxable\" data-meta=\"0_50\" data-mustcapture=\"1\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-file-text-o phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-icon\" data-meta=\"0_51\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-info-block\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-name\"\u003eBig_Graphic_Stars1.gih\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-info\"\u003e58 KB\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca class=\"phabricator-remarkup-embed-layout-download\" href=\"https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/download\/kezrmdbrnge22xnhj2wg\/PHID-FILE-rehaoj6a6wkwkfckdwev\/Big_Graphic_Stars1.gih\"\u003eDownload\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eYou might want to consider whether the designy stars or the hearts would be more useful in a default set.\u003c\/p\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-spacer\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-shell\" id=\"anchor-118906\" data-sigil=\"transaction\" data-meta=\"0_554\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-event-view phui-timeline-minor-event\"\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-content\"\u003e\u003ca style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/phabricator.kde.org\/file\/data\/iwjpsu4ldokmyhuxqpcd\/PHID-FILE-5bkrs5nj7wjoamq55f3g\/profile-thera.png)\" class=\"phui-timeline-image\" href=\"\/p\/woltherav\/\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-wedge phui-timeline-border\" style=\"\"\u003e\u003c\/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-group phui-timeline-border\"\u003e\u003ca name=\"118906\" id=\"118906\" class=\"phabricator-anchor-view\"\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"phui-timeline-title phui-timeline-title-with-icon\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-icon-fill\"\u003e\u003cspan class=\"visual-only phui-icon-view phui-font-fa fa-link phui-timeline-icon\" data-meta=\"0_553\" aria-hidden=\"true\"\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"\/p\/woltherav\/\" class=\"phui-handle phui-link-person\"\u003ewoltherav\u003c\/a\u003e mentioned this in \u003ca href=\"\/T6476\" class=\"phui-handle handle-status-closed\"\u003eT6476: Krita 4.0 main release task\u003c\/a\u003e.\u003cspan class=\"phui-timeline-extra\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"#118906\" data-sigil=\"has-tooltip\" data-meta=\"0_552\"\u003eNov 25 2017, 10:17 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