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The "KDE Applications" bundle.
Use this tag only for applications which are

  • part of the "KDE Applications" bundle and
  • they have no other specific tag/projects, or no knowns/long term maintainers.

Recent Activity

Today

aacid updated the task description for T11933: Debrand KDE Applications as Release Service.
Fri, Nov 15, 9:32 AM · KDE Promo, KDE Applications, Goal: All About the Apps
aacid added a comment to T11933: Debrand KDE Applications as Release Service.

One thing more i forgot is https://download.kde.org/stable/applications/ needs to be somewhere else probably?

Fri, Nov 15, 9:32 AM · KDE Promo, KDE Applications, Goal: All About the Apps

Yesterday

jriddell added a comment to T11933: Debrand KDE Applications as Release Service.

That would seem to subsume the apps announcements into the All About The Apps initiative. What happens once that initiative ends? You'll be stuck doing blog posts forever, that's what! This is sort of the situation I'm in with my U&P posts that became a generic commit digest type of thing.

Thu, Nov 14, 3:36 PM · KDE Promo, KDE Applications, Goal: All About the Apps
ognarb added a comment to T11933: Debrand KDE Applications as Release Service.

From discussions with Albert my current plan is to scrap the final announce for KDE Applications / Release Service and instead have the monthly apps update story on kde.org/announcements and copies onto kde.org. I'm pondering if it can be written in YAML or similar with the PHP/HTML nonsense generated from that

Thu, Nov 14, 3:09 PM · KDE Promo, KDE Applications, Goal: All About the Apps
ltoscano added a comment to T11933: Debrand KDE Applications as Release Service.

But we have been discussing about the naming and scope of the Applications releases way before the All About The Apps initiative. I think that @jriddell mentioned that it's consistent with the All About The Apps initiative, but at least I see the two changes unrelated to each other. Not sure what the others think about this.

Thu, Nov 14, 3:01 PM · KDE Promo, KDE Applications, Goal: All About the Apps
ngraham added a comment to T11933: Debrand KDE Applications as Release Service.

That would seem to subsume the apps announcements into the All About The Apps initiative. What happens once that initiative ends? You'll be stuck doing blog posts forever, that's what! This is sort of the situation I'm in with my U&P posts that became a generic commit digest type of thing.

Thu, Nov 14, 2:52 PM · KDE Promo, KDE Applications, Goal: All About the Apps
jriddell added a comment to T11933: Debrand KDE Applications as Release Service.

From discussions with Albert my current plan is to scrap the final announce for KDE Applications / Release Service and instead have the monthly apps update story on kde.org/announcements and copies onto kde.org. I'm pondering if it can be written in YAML or similar with the PHP/HTML nonsense generated from that

Thu, Nov 14, 2:26 PM · KDE Promo, KDE Applications, Goal: All About the Apps
jriddell added a comment to T11933: Debrand KDE Applications as Release Service.

How about https://kde.org/announcements/releases-19.12-beta.php ?

Thu, Nov 14, 2:11 PM · KDE Promo, KDE Applications, Goal: All About the Apps

Wed, Nov 13

jriddell moved T11933: Debrand KDE Applications as Release Service from Discussing to Doing on the Goal: All About the Apps board.
Wed, Nov 13, 2:48 PM · KDE Promo, KDE Applications, Goal: All About the Apps
sitter added a comment to T11933: Debrand KDE Applications as Release Service.

^ Plays into https://github.com/ximion/appstream/issues/240

Wed, Nov 13, 1:01 PM · KDE Promo, KDE Applications, Goal: All About the Apps

Tue, Nov 12

joricke added a comment to T10201: Window titlebars.

Yes, I'm aware of that, but even on that screen there's three mentions of "Application Style" that imply the decoration of the entire window. It's just a mass of redundancy and confusing naming all over again. Can we not declutter this? And coming back to a discussion on the evolution of breeze: dial back the usage of styled frames?

Tue, Nov 12, 10:29 PM · KDE Applications, VDG
pedrogomes1698 added a comment to T10201: Window titlebars.

I'm not sure the redundancy of information is a good thing, to be honest.

In the layout you're displaying, there's 5 mentions of "Application Style". Three of those mentions actually don't mean just the application style but include the window decorations as well. How about renaming the application style "container" to something like "window theme", which would meet the "global theme" in wording to add some consistency to the naming conventions.

Attached image file is my crude attempt at modifying your idea.

Tue, Nov 12, 10:14 PM · KDE Applications, VDG
joricke added a comment to T10201: Window titlebars.

I'm not sure the redundancy of information is a good thing, to be honest.

Tue, Nov 12, 10:07 PM · KDE Applications, VDG
pedrogomes1698 added a comment to T10201: Window titlebars.

Last idea that I'll just throw in here, maybe something on these lines would be neat.

Tue, Nov 12, 9:05 PM · KDE Applications, VDG
ngraham updated subscribers of T10201: Window titlebars.
In T10201#207996, @GB_2 wrote:


Having the line separated from the titlebar separator would make it a bit better, if we were to stick to this overall look.

I love this!

Tue, Nov 12, 7:43 PM · KDE Applications, VDG
pedrogomes1698 added a comment to T10201: Window titlebars.

I don't think it's ideal but it's imo a improvement.

Tue, Nov 12, 7:33 PM · KDE Applications, VDG
GB_2 added a comment to T10201: Window titlebars.


Having the line separated from the titlebar separator would make it a bit better, if we were to stick to this overall look.

Tue, Nov 12, 7:16 PM · KDE Applications, VDG
pedrogomes1698 added a comment to T10201: Window titlebars.


Having the line separated from the titlebar separator would make it a bit better, if we were to stick to this overall look.

Tue, Nov 12, 7:11 PM · KDE Applications, VDG
mglb added a comment to T10201: Window titlebars.

Why (assuming it would be possible to disable it)?
Example use case: there is optional feature in Konsole which randomly adjusts foreground and background colors in each session (hue and saturation; perceived lightness is kept constant). It helps with finding specific window/session, as it is easier to find window tinted to specific color than looking at content/title (when it is similar), especially when window is scaled down (present windows effect). It could be nice to extend this adjustment to whole window (and titlebar), of course with user consent.
We make titlebars blended with window for consistency, and because it looks nice. Does it make sense to prevent similar consistency with application which uses different colors (e.g. web browser)?

Tue, Nov 12, 5:47 PM · KDE Applications, VDG
ngraham added a comment to T10201: Window titlebars.

what is the general consensus of having applications be able to set their own colors for titlebars?

No consensus but I don't think we should allow applications to "brand" themselves. They should use whatever color scheme the user has decided for them or the system. If the user set a color scheme for them, then sure, we already have some infrastructure for that in e.g. Kate, Krita. It is possible to set a different color scheme for the decoration but it must be an existing theme on disk, an application cannot set arbitrary colors.

Tue, Nov 12, 4:39 PM · KDE Applications, VDG
ognarb added a comment to T11933: Debrand KDE Applications as Release Service.
Tue, Nov 12, 3:45 PM · KDE Promo, KDE Applications, Goal: All About the Apps
cgiboudeaux added a comment to T11933: Debrand KDE Applications as Release Service.
Tue, Nov 12, 1:07 PM · KDE Promo, KDE Applications, Goal: All About the Apps
jriddell updated the task description for T11933: Debrand KDE Applications as Release Service.
Tue, Nov 12, 1:05 PM · KDE Promo, KDE Applications, Goal: All About the Apps
jriddell added a comment to T11933: Debrand KDE Applications as Release Service.
Tue, Nov 12, 1:00 PM · KDE Promo, KDE Applications, Goal: All About the Apps
jriddell updated the task description for T11933: Debrand KDE Applications as Release Service.
Tue, Nov 12, 12:40 PM · KDE Promo, KDE Applications, Goal: All About the Apps
jriddell updated the task description for T11933: Debrand KDE Applications as Release Service.
Tue, Nov 12, 12:37 PM · KDE Promo, KDE Applications, Goal: All About the Apps
cgiboudeaux updated the task description for T11933: Debrand KDE Applications as Release Service.
Tue, Nov 12, 10:59 AM · KDE Promo, KDE Applications, Goal: All About the Apps
joricke added a comment to T10201: Window titlebars.

I don't think we should allow applications to "brand" themselves

Tue, Nov 12, 9:03 AM · KDE Applications, VDG
broulik added a comment to T10201: Window titlebars.

what is the general consensus of having applications be able to set their own colors for titlebars?

No consensus but I don't think we should allow applications to "brand" themselves. They should use whatever color scheme the user has decided for them or the system. If the user set a color scheme for them, then sure, we already have some infrastructure for that in e.g. Kate, Krita. It is possible to set a different color scheme for the decoration but it must be an existing theme on disk, an application cannot set arbitrary colors.

Tue, Nov 12, 8:05 AM · KDE Applications, VDG
joricke added a comment to T10201: Window titlebars.

On the topic of titlebars and their colors: what is the general consensus of having applications be able to set their own colors for titlebars? This would allow developers to establish a more "in brand" visual appearance (see screenshot attached). I'm currently working on a window decoration that lets users set per-window settings for titlebars. If users want, it'll also draw a separator underneath the titlebar by using the titlebar color and then applying a .lighter(n) filter to it to dark it considerably. This makes for a very smooth and fitting insert which still lets the user decide on what color-scheme they would like to use. Even when the titlebar area is extended to include the toolbox like in this mockup https://phabricator.kde.org/T10201#186877 it'll still look gorgeous. Readability of the icons can be ensured by doing simple lightness checks on the background color and then applying either white or black icon sets. I'm already doing this for the text in the titlebar and the inactive window buttons.

Tue, Nov 12, 7:55 AM · KDE Applications, VDG
ndavis added a comment to T10201: Window titlebars.
In T10201#207899, @mglb wrote:

Application Style

What about extending vertical lines?

Tue, Nov 12, 4:48 AM · KDE Applications, VDG
mglb added a comment to T10201: Window titlebars.

Application Style

Tue, Nov 12, 3:45 AM · KDE Applications, VDG

Mon, Nov 11

ndavis added a comment to T10201: Window titlebars.

Here's an idea for what Breeze Dark could look like with titlebars/headers/toolbars using the same color:

Mon, Nov 11, 11:05 PM · KDE Applications, VDG

Sun, Nov 10

elvisangelaccio added a comment to T11933: Debrand KDE Applications as Release Service.

On branch naming:

"release/19.12" is not so good because such branch corresponds to multiple releases: 19.11.70 through 19.12.5.
"stable/19.12" or "development/19.12" look better to me.

Sun, Nov 10, 8:57 AM · KDE Promo, KDE Applications, Goal: All About the Apps
elvisangelaccio added a comment to T11933: Debrand KDE Applications as Release Service.

We also need to decide what to rename KDE_APPLICATIONS_VERSION_XXX in CMakeLists.txt if at all, or just pretend this is internal and noone cares

Sun, Nov 10, 8:43 AM · KDE Promo, KDE Applications, Goal: All About the Apps
aspotashev added a comment to T11933: Debrand KDE Applications as Release Service.

Keeping list of what needs to be done in phabricator is not really easy, am i doing this wrong?

Sun, Nov 10, 12:28 AM · KDE Promo, KDE Applications, Goal: All About the Apps
aacid added a comment to T11933: Debrand KDE Applications as Release Service.

Note that since the Beta for 19.12 is scheduled in 4 days i will probably just call everything KDE Applications because i don't think my questions will be answered by then

Sun, Nov 10, 12:21 AM · KDE Promo, KDE Applications, Goal: All About the Apps
aacid added a comment to T11933: Debrand KDE Applications as Release Service.

Keeping list of what needs to be done in phabricator is not really easy, am i doing this wrong?

Sun, Nov 10, 12:15 AM · KDE Promo, KDE Applications, Goal: All About the Apps
aacid added a comment to T11933: Debrand KDE Applications as Release Service.

We also need to decide what to rename KDE_APPLICATIONS_VERSION_XXX in CMakeLists.txt if at all, or just pretend this is internal and noone cares

Sun, Nov 10, 12:15 AM · KDE Promo, KDE Applications, Goal: All About the Apps

Sat, Nov 9

aacid added a comment to T11933: Debrand KDE Applications as Release Service.

too late for branch naming, i already went with release/19.12

Sat, Nov 9, 11:51 PM · KDE Promo, KDE Applications, Goal: All About the Apps
aacid added a comment to T11933: Debrand KDE Applications as Release Service.

Does the future "release service" provide Beta and RC (Release Candidate) releases?

Sat, Nov 9, 11:47 PM · KDE Promo, KDE Applications, Goal: All About the Apps
aacid added a comment to T11933: Debrand KDE Applications as Release Service.

too late for branch naming, i already went with release/19.12

Sat, Nov 9, 11:43 PM · KDE Promo, KDE Applications, Goal: All About the Apps
aspotashev added a comment to T11933: Debrand KDE Applications as Release Service.

On branch naming:

Sat, Nov 9, 11:42 PM · KDE Promo, KDE Applications, Goal: All About the Apps

Thu, Nov 7

IlyaBizyaev added a comment to T11933: Debrand KDE Applications as Release Service.

Thank you, Carl!

Thu, Nov 7, 6:07 PM · KDE Promo, KDE Applications, Goal: All About the Apps
ognarb added a comment to T11933: Debrand KDE Applications as Release Service.

Let's make this month applications announcement in the dot. But I still think it's an issue we need to fix in the future. I created T11986

Thu, Nov 7, 5:50 PM · KDE Promo, KDE Applications, Goal: All About the Apps
jriddell abandoned D22489: Add release versions appstream files to increase_repos_version.sh.

merged not abandoned

Thu, Nov 7, 4:41 PM · KDE Applications
ngraham added a comment to T11933: Debrand KDE Applications as Release Service.

Is it really related to "debranding" though? Sounds like a separate issue that equally affects Plasma, for instance.

Yes because we need to work out what to publish for the release next month

most people aren't able to do it.

Pardon my ignorance, but I'm not aware of anyone who's able to do Dot translations

I mean most people aren't able to write the horrible PHP/HTML mix of markup needed for the announcements on kde.org. It's a significant time waster.

Thu, Nov 7, 4:27 PM · KDE Promo, KDE Applications, Goal: All About the Apps
jriddell added a comment to D22489: Add release versions appstream files to increase_repos_version.sh.

Merged!
The repo was moved, I've updated the comment for that now
There is a --dry operation for add_appstream_versions.sh

Thu, Nov 7, 2:41 PM · KDE Applications
jriddell added a comment to T11933: Debrand KDE Applications as Release Service.

Is it really related to "debranding" though? Sounds like a separate issue that equally affects Plasma, for instance.

Thu, Nov 7, 2:25 PM · KDE Promo, KDE Applications, Goal: All About the Apps
jriddell added a comment to T11933: Debrand KDE Applications as Release Service.

I agree that kde.org vs dot.kde.org seems like an orthogonal discussion. I also agree that in general it would be good to consolidate our messaging platforms, and that "dot dot K D E dot org" is a super awkward one.

Thu, Nov 7, 2:13 PM · KDE Promo, KDE Applications, Goal: All About the Apps