In T14725#262862, @paulb wrote:

Do you mind if we leave the title of the task at "Plasma 25th Anniversary Edition"? That is what we (as in the Promo team and devs) agreed we would call this release, and I would prefer we got used to just calling it that and there were no confusion in the Promo board.

In T14725#262858, @paulb wrote:

@GB_2 : WOW! Excellent work!

1 Question: When you say "kickoff", do you mean the actual "Kickoff" or the current default launcher (which I understand is not Kickoff anymore)?

In T11227#261226, @felixernst wrote:

Is this meant to only be used as launch feedback?

Yes, I just replaced the current spinner icon we have in the task manager now. It shows up when the window didn't appear yet.

Here is my proposal for this topic.

In T14211#255944, @ngraham wrote:

I'm kinda confused. You mean that, the sidebar and the files view (content) should share the same colour? Like in Discover?

Yes.

Does not seem like a good idea to me. We should make an effort to help users distinguish the areas of the window more easily, like we already do with the titlebar and window content. Pretty much every platform has this separation. It's also more pleasing to the eye.

FWIW we already have a red X we could use for permanent deletion, but now lists use red trash cans instead...
Right now the only thing distinguishing permanent and reversible deletion is the trash can color. Not good for accessibility.
Having only black trash can icons for reversible deletion and the red X for permanent deletion like I proposed would fix this.

If this hasn't already been fixed then we should just hardcode the colors, looks the best and should be easy to do.

In T12777#259813, @cblack wrote:

Using colour alone to indicate a difference between elements is inaccessible and obtuse to read.

In T12777#259810, @cblack wrote:

FWIW, I think using the trashcan as the universal list removal thing isn't a good idea, mostly because a trashcan has largely meant "you can put something in the trash" and importantly "you can take it out of the trash" again, that is, a trash can indicates deletion that is:

1. reversible
2. "deleted" items are put in a staging place that can be accessed by the user
   
   Most instances of the trashcan used in a list item are either destructive, or reversible but not very apparent in how you recover an item from deletion. This is inconsistent as to the meaning of the trash can icon as used by other OSes our users are familiar with, and to how we've been using it before we started slapping it on list items.
   
   We should either
3. use a different icon that truthfully indicates the non-trash-like nature of deletion (shredder, X, incinerator, whatever) instead of one that lies to the user about how a UI will behave or
4. revise the interaction of items using a trashcan in order to be consistent with the meaning that it implies

There are two types of hamburger buttons: one which opens a sidebar on the left, so it makes sense to put them left, and the one that opens a menu for more actions and is often located in a toolbar. So we're kind of restricting ourselves to either always put hamburger menus left or differentiate these two types.

This may be useful: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/gs83sj/twemoji_confs

What if we put a checkable menu item inside the hamburger menu? It's not like this is a feature you need to access often. Then it also won't take up any space in the sidebar.

Almost every app has a help button or menu item that opens the documentation. Having tooltips and the help center is enough in my opinion, because the What's This text would otherwise be a duplicate of the documentation. I think good tooltips and good UI should be enough.

I think it would be benefitial if we agree on this standard in T11520, the HIG or maybe XDG.

Do we still want to ship the old Breeze Classic with Plasma or do we put it in kde-vdg-extras? I think there are quite a few people who like the mix of dark header and light content.

Let's use Flow Light :-)

In T12724#227619, @filipf wrote:

I'd go with Vera for 5.19 and Altai for 5.20. Fits seasonal patterns for release periods for the northern hemisphere while being subversive for the southern one.

Milky Way is a great wallpaper, just doesn't fit as much as others though.

I read all messages and it seems like these are the most popular wallpapers (in not particular order): Vera, Flow Light, Milky Way, Rainy Morning
In my opinion they all look good, although Milky Way is quite dark. It also looks a bit different from the traditional style and it's the only wallpaper with this style. I think it would make more sense to change the style with Plasma 6 (if at all).

Nitpick: put the "Add Application..." button on the left (T10384).

In T12668#220624, @ngraham wrote:

Things I like:

• Pretty much everything about the new Home page. Looks much more attractive than what we have right now. I'm coming to believe it's important to either regularly rotate the content, or else add dynamic items, so the ecosystem doesn't look static and dead.
• Making the list into a grid with rectangular cards. It looks really good IMO.
• Expanding the apps category so you can see its child items on the first level of navigation in the sidebar.
• Putting add-ons in a whole separate category.
  
  Things I'm neutral on:
• Adding a second sidebar. I don't hate it, but I'm not in love with it either. Maybe if we put these category items on the tools area, it wouldn't look so empty.
• The gigantic colored rectangle header on the app pages. Maybe it it were a bit smaller, it wouldn't seem wasteful and attention-getting.
  
  Things I don't like:
• Hiding the search field behind a button. It needs to be visible by default, since it has keyboard focus by default.
• The tools area now looks huge, barren, and empty. This might be better if there was a visible search field in it though.

+1

I really like Grand Canyon, Vera, Rainy Morning. Kay would also be ok, but I don't like the colors. Crystalline looks rather dull, Beach is too similar to the current one, and the others are too dark or don't really have the Plasma 5 style.

Thanks for this :-)

IMO we should just use the trash can for "Move to Trash" and the red X for permanent deletion or removal. This makes it simple.

I think smallMedium (or maybe medium) generally seems like a good size. Icons in lists don't need to be so big.

Ping :-)

In D28461#640439, @The-Feren-OS-Dev wrote:

How about instead of a blue dot there's instead an option in the SySe hamburger button menu to use search to filter out any settings pages where settings haven't been changed, meaning that only settings with changes made to them are then listed in the search results?

In T8569#227191, @ngraham wrote:

No matter what, I really like using an arrow to the right of the password field instead of an OK button. We do this on the lock and login screens and it's been very well received. I think it would be good to increase internal consistency by moving towards that everywhere for password fields rather than away from it.

If you're using an authentication method that doesn't require a password (fingerprint, smart card, etc), then we can show the OK button.

What do you think about this as a compromise?

I love the second last picture that shows the the desktop (without the dialog title bar).

Incredible!

Maybe simply "Breeze Evolution"?

Use David's suggestion

Ping :-)

Ping.

Can we please move on with this shortcut then as it's the better default for most people?

Can you please try to further investigate this?

In D25945#577731, @gikari wrote:

In D25945#577677, @cblack wrote:

For flatpaks not respecting the setting preference, have you checked that the dark theme variant is installed?

Yes, I have installed the theme. But after changing the value in gtk configs nothing happens. It could also be the result of my local setup bugs (because as the @GB_2 said, the patch works for him flawlessly). So I think he (or someone else) should test it.

There is a bug about flatpak not using selected GTK theme on X11. It is because it can only be done by letting the xsettingd to control the theme of the flatpak app. So, to test dark-theme preference sync you need to add to the ~/.config/xsettingsd/xsettingsd.conf this line:

Net/ThemeName "Adwaita"

check the dark theme preference checkbox in old GTK KCM and then relaunch xsettingsd. The flatpak app should be dark.

In D24281#579394, @hpereiradacosta wrote:

Just a remark: WASD is very keyboard layout dependent for instance, for AZERTY keyboards (as used in France for instance) this is completely broken, and something any gamer has to always change manually (to ZQSD) if not already done automatically by the game (which may games do)
Arrows on the other hand are much less layout dependent.

Ping.

In D24522#544338, @Zren wrote:

Ping :-)

Ping.

In D26053#579047, @ngraham wrote:

LGTM as well. Note that Konsole is on invent now.

I added -url and -mail after edit-copy so it is possible to create specific icons later if wanted.

Remove space

Decrease line count

Ping.

Works great!

Works perfectly fine for me without waiting.

Hmm, Ctrl+Alt+Arrows can also break things like Konsole (https://cgit.kde.org/konsole.git/tree/src/ViewManager.cpp#n237) and Meta is more appropriate for desktop/window management shortcuts, so less likely to break other applications that are not desktop add-ons.

I already made a patch for this: D23242

In T10611#213121, @ndavis wrote:

TBH, I can't tell if that setting actually does anything on Plasma.

We could also set the "Prefer dark theme" preference depending on your color scheme (like the filter combobox added in D18646).

In D25360#573798, @IlyaBizyaev wrote:

Should this also affect GTK apps? There's a matching radio group in the GTK KCM.

In T12308#212592, @pedrogomes1698 wrote:

How it'd look smaller, really like it!

In D24275#571532, @cblack wrote:

In D24275#571531, @GB_2 wrote:

Works now :-)

With the cmake or the meson?

Works now :-)

In T11915#212160, @IlyaBizyaev wrote:

Noto Sans: +1
Kabel: -1

Also, I think if you use rounded corners, reduce the font size and use Breeze's #232629 for the label it will look slightly better.

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