Also, the calendar as well as status and notifications are more transparent on the old machine ...

@rikmills What is your opinion?

Switching opengl does not seem to change anything ....

I distinctly recall it's not present in Neon LTS but it's present in Neon User

@ngraham I'll go out there and tell (random) people to post a screenshot.

The above (latest) picture is also from my old machine but the previous one is from the newer machine. Hmmm?

The first screen is most likely from a VM (my Neon VM looks like that too). Bare metal should look like the bottom one. Can anyone confirm?

Yes, I have a nice logout screen on my bare metal Bionic install.

At any rate, the bug is present both in Neon and Kubuntu.

Yes, I have a nice logout screen on my bare metal Bionic install.

The question is: can anyone replicate the nice logout on metal?

Do you think I'm paying some trick on you? No VM.

Please list any differences in settings on that page between the two machines.

So, compositing is not turned off and I still get a nice logout and calendar T8603. Any theories?

I never messed with the compositor after installation and it looks like ...

But did it turn itself off automatically? Check please. System Settings → Display & Monitor → Compositor. Please list any differences in settings on that page between the two machines.

I haven't turned off compositing.

Mmm, is compositing off on that machine, and/or can it not be turned on due to low specs?

@ngraham My first shot comes from a real metal install. It's a low-specs and old machine. Which makes it even more surprising.

The first screen is most likely from a VM (my Neon VM looks like that too). Bare metal should look like the bottom one. Can anyone confirm?

I've got this shot from phab @ragreen had uploaded it. While it's Neon, it looks the same in Kubuntu on my other machine.

On a different machine, the bug isn't there ...

Just checked Lubuntu 18.10 and Calamares works. @tsimonq2 Could you, please, build a Kubuntu 18.10 with Calamares? Thanks.

I'll continue working on it.

https://phabricator.kde.org/conpherence/28/

That's awesome, thanks for your work on this!

I've got some promising results ...

People seem to love this. I'm glad to have been wrong!

Fix didn't work. Nothing to do here.

Thanks! This is the package that ships /etc/samba/smb.conf, which needs to be present (and patched/fixed) to make Samba network resource discovery work.

Ok. I will investigate.

In T7856#140904, @ngraham wrote:

Might be worth trying to get those upstreamed,

I really like those effects, @zzag, especially appear and disappear 2. Might be worth trying to get those upstreamed, or at least offering them on the KDE store so people can get them via Get hot New Stuff.

FWIW, I made a set of "nonintrusive" effects to animate the appearing/disappearing of windows

Turned out to be (at least partially) a Discover issue: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=393210

Too late for Bionic, and we'll get this automatically in Cosmic anyway.

Heh, of course it is! Whoops.

Just for our sanity's sake, I went ahead and raised the issue in the Lunduke Show some days ago.
Here are Bryan's thoughts on this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvADk2k8vIY&t=1746s

Dear Nate,

You're not helping, Bo. Your concerns have been noted, and I continue to attempt to make this case internally. Be patient please, and refrain from insulting the people who you would like to accept your point of view.

So the code monkeys know better than the End User. Even when the End User has been using KDE since the time when the coder’s favorite computer was “Speak n Spell”.

In T8460#139916, @raddison wrote:

I have not been using debian and debian-derivatives ever since the move towards systemd-dumbification.

Looking forward to Devuan with Plasma 5 on it. I think it's doable.

Yes, that helps. I can confirm this in Bionic. This works properly in Artful with the same version of Firefox and Plasma (provided by backports).

I've only got some talent at pinpointing flaws. Call me that extra pair of eyes. I've got no calling for this kinda stuff. But I can surely appreciate a good OS. Has anyone told you about this Firefox thing? Well, I have. I'm sorry that's it only so much I can do at the moment but is better than nothing, I guess.

In T8608#140018, @raddison wrote:

Now the question is: is this a Kubuntu issue or an Ubuntu issue? Can you reproduce the issue with a fresh install of regular old Ubuntu 18.04 too? If so, it should be reported on launchpad. If not, it can stay here.

I don't know.

Neon User

Now the question is: is this a Kubuntu issue or an Ubuntu issue? Can you reproduce the issue with a fresh install of regular old Ubuntu 18.04 too? If so, it should be reported on launchpad. If not, it can stay here.

Okay. Then I'll try to make this one "actionable" :)

Yes, that helps. I can confirm this in Bionic. This works properly in Artful with the same version of Firefox and Plasma (provided by backports).

So much better :) I'm such an ignorant.

Do you think it would help to have a picture from Neon, or you already know what I mean?

The icons representing the items that are being downloaded, whether iso, sig, ...

@rikmills Oh, thanks.

In T8602#140005, @rikmills wrote:

In T8602#140002, @ngraham wrote:

It sounds like what you actually want is for everything to be (effectively) minimized and unminimized when clicking the Show Desktop button, instead of the windows transparently flying to the corners. Would that be a fair assessment?

To do that all a user has to do is disable the Window Aperture desktop effect.

In T8602#140002, @ngraham wrote:

It sounds like what you actually want is for everything to be (effectively) minimized and unminimized when clicking the Show Desktop button, instead of the windows transparently flying to the corners. Would that be a fair assessment?

Don't be passive aggressive. Please learn to communicate professionally or else go away.

It sounds like what you actually want is for everything to be (effectively) minimized and unminimized when clicking the Show Desktop button, instead of the windows transparently flying to the corners. Would that be a fair assessment?

:) Okay,

Or the fact that the transparent windows cover it?

In T8607#139990, @raddison wrote:

Please report a bug rather than creating a task here for every small glitch/bug.

That would be the ideal thing to do, agreed. On the other hand, it would take ages and I'm highly skeptical the issue would be addressed.

In T8608#139991, @raddison wrote:

I'm expecting invalidation, of course. Bureaucracy is what I hate most.

In T8602#139960, @raddison wrote:

If you believe there is an issue with this, please file a bug upstream at http://bugs.kde.org/.

I don't believe there's an issue with it. I know there's an issue with it. I don't think you like it either.

@ngraham Kubuntu should cherry-pick the very best of KDE software and not what's so and so.

I'm expecting invalidation, of course. Bureaucracy is what I hate most.

Please report a bug rather than creating a task here for every small glitch/bug.

Please report a bug rather than creating a task here for every small glitch/bug. That way, should anyone else happen to be experience the same, they can find it in bug reports, confirm and give more info.

If you believe there is an issue with this, please file a bug upstream at http://bugs.kde.org/.

This is just how the "Show Desktop" effect works: all the windows fly into the corners and become mostly-transparent. If you believe there is an issue with this, please file a bug upstream at http://bugs.kde.org/.

Looks to be:

The scrollbar is a success story. I can't praise Kubuntu Bionic enough on that one. Love it!

I have not been using debian and debian-derivatives ever since the move towards systemd-dumbification.

Look closer. It's not a gap. The calendar is aligned with the border of the screen. Just before the border of the screen it gets glassy.

Well, my first visit to Phab on Kubuntu Bionic release. Ubiquity closes, then you're prompted to restart your computer. If you restart it too quickly, then you're in trouble. Once more Ubiquity has proven what an unreliable, unpredictable and buggy piece of art it is. In beta 1, it behaved correctly. Switching to Calamares is desirable. To bad we couldn't implement it in our current LTS release. All is not lost though. Maybe I'll re-spin the beaver and replace the installer. All knowledge gained in the process will be shared. Thank you.