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 # Trimming in the timeline
 
 ## Status
 
 * [x] It is explained clearly what the feature is supposed to do
 * [ ] [Same-Track-Transition](https://invent.kde.org/kde/kdenlive/-/wikis/dev/ideas/Same-Track-Crossfades) has to be implemented first
 * [ ] It is clear how this can be implemented in Kdenlive
 
 ## Intro
 
 Inputs:
 
-* https://kdenlive.org/en/video-editing-applications-handbook/#trim
+* https://kdenlive.org/en/video-editing-applications-handbook/#trim  
+* [Café 42 inputs](https://share.kde.org/s/bwPtC8s8C3gRggG)
 
 Questions:
 
 * Is trimming by mouse needed/convenient?
   * Dragging the clip in *slip/slide* mode would probably feel intuitive, as would dragging the edges in *roll/ripple*
 
 
 ### Summary
 
 Trimming functionality consists of different parts:
 
 * The logic to apply the different operations in the timeline (setting new IN/OUT points for the clips etc.)
 * The user controls for using the trimming tools. This includes keyboard/mouse control, buttons, menu entries.
 * The clip monitor which shows the relevant IN/OUT points of affected clips (up to 4)
 
 Workflow:
 
 1. Select which clip should be trimmed
    * For mouse, this is usually done with either special positions on the clip or with special mouse tools
    * For keyboard, the selection is usually controlled with the timeline cursor position and the active track and the activation of the trimming tool
 1. Choose a trim tool
 1. Trim the clip
 
 ![image](uploads/7f93d6d0c1a397c91afdb73045b8b0ec/image.png)
 
 
 ## Tools
 
 | Name | Status | Description
 | --- | --- | --- |
 | Rolling | | Trim adjacent IN and OUT points
 | Ripple | | Trim clip and shift following clips by the trimmed amount
 | Slip | | Shift IN and OUT points of a clip by X
 | Slide | | Move clip on timeline and trim adjacent IN and OUT points